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Bowie / Heathen
by TagYrIt＠aol.com 23 Dec '02

23 Dec '02

In a message dated 12/23/2002 3:46:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, jzitt(a)metatronpress.com writes: > I don't hear this textural richness on 'Heathen'. If he's stopped trying > to reach the Top 40 (and I doubt he's been trying for it for quite a > long time), it's hard to hear what he is trying for, other than perhaps > putting himself out to pasture. I found it telling that the coverage I > recall seeing for this album was more in fashion magazines than in music > magazines -- he seems to be comfortable being defined by the suits he's > wearing so well. Sure, he may not be teen pop anymore, but I still think > he has it in him to do more than croon these forgettable tunes. > I tend to agree with this asessment of Heathen, it mostly bored me, much like Tonight. However, this rasies a question I've been thinking about for a while. While Bowie has delt with being an aging rock star better than most, who HAS done it better than him, or been exemplary? Dale.

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DOH!!!
by Steve Smith 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

[ADVANCE WARNING: This is going to seem totally contrived, since Greg Kelley is on at least one of these lists and bhob rainey is on the other one. But even given my days of preparation for posting my imperious "2002 in the rear view" list, I *KNEW* I'd manage to forget someone. And I did! So here it is...] Don't know why it took me so long to catch on, but my MOST important "Belated Discovery" of the year was nmperign. I'm reasonably certain that my prior ignorance was due to thinking that their entire previous output was irrevocably out of print. But after hearing Greg's 'Trumpet' and 'Forlorn Green' and bhob's solo cut on one of Crouton Music's 'Folktales' releases and catching a live gig by Tatsuya Nakatani (with Tim Barnes) -- and JUST as I was ready to hit eBay -- I found the two nmperign CDs on Twisted Village *AND* the way-groovy collaboration with Jason Lescalleet (of 'Forlorn Green' and 'Mattresslessness' fame, you remember...) on Intransitive, just sitting there, kinda STARING at me, at Mondo Kim's one night after I'd had several drinks during an amazing set by Butch Morris (it's 11/19 on my "10 Live Events" list if you're really following all this). I've obviously sobered up since that night, so I can solemnly say to you, if you're reading this and you're AT ALL into avant-jazz, free improv and/or EAI, you just simply MUST know nmperign. As for me, I'll just grovel and beg forgiveness on February 6. Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - nmperign, i, '44'38"/5' (Twisted Village)

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can anyone help?
by RainDog138＠aol.com 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

i recently stumbled on a site a month ago that had mp3's of a BBC radio show on the music of john zorn. it was a four part series of which they only had the second part posted. this site was in a foreign language i couldn't read. i somehow didn't bookmark it and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could find mp3's of the other 3 parts. thanks. - mike

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Re: Cecil "Great Paris Concert" LP
by Steve Smith 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:41:49 -0800 Chris Selvig <selvig(a)sonic.net> wrote: > Does anyone know anything about the Cecil > Taylor double LP coming out on > Get Back? There's some debate around here as > to whether it's really live > in Paris in 1964, and I don't really want to > drop $23 to find out the truth. I don't blame you. I've never heard of any live recordings of Cecil that date from 1964, Paris or otherwise. The recording previously issued under that title by Black Lion (and on BYG as 'Student Studies') was from November 1966 and features Alan Silva (who is not mentioned in the Forced Exposure news blast) in addition to Taylor, Lyons and Cyrille. This must certainly be that, and I can only wonder if Get Back has managed to improve on the reviled Black Lion CD issue, which was poorly transferred from a noisy vinyl copy. Good performance, though, and some really unusual music, even by Taylor standards. I seem to remember Cyrille playing tubular bells at one point, but it's been a while... Steve Smith ssmith36(a)sprynet.com NP - Immortal, "Through the Halls of Eternity," 'Battles in the North' (Osmose)

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Okay, I'm serious
by skip Heller 22 Dec '02

22 Dec '02

While driving home from La Puente last night at about midnight, I had the opportunity to spend about an hour in the car listening to what purported to be Los Angeles' most wide-in-scope programming, both on KLON and KCRW. KLON was hard bopping itself into a frenzy, with detours through established Latin bands with post-Trane tenor solos and a couple of tiptoes through "new" jazz artists (more hard bop). And a couple of Bill Holman-type modern big band things (please kill me). KCRW's "progressive and eclectic" pop offerings were no less provincial. No offense to any Beck fans, but anything that occupies the Top 40 as much as Beck is hardly an alternative to commercial radio. In short, I didn't exactly hear anything that made me curious about what I was listening to. Taking a page from the Book Of Biafra (Jello, that is), I have decided, rather than to Hate The Media, to Become The Media. Here's the deal -- and, unfortunately, I can only open it to United States Zorn listers: Forty minutes of stuff people need to hear -- in print, out of print, whatever. The only rules: 1. None of the content is allowed to be from the pop top forty anytime after 1966. This includes cuts from albums that have made it to the pop top forty, so VESPERTINE and the last three Tom Waits albums don't qualify. 2. You make two copies and pass 'em along to your pals. 3. No more than one cut per artist. 4. Ellery Eskelin cannot be present on any of the cuts. 5. Don't include your own music. You send me your disc and .60 in postage, and I'll send you my disc. Contact me off-list for snail mail info. Money's too tight for people to drop $18 on records we've heard or read about. I want to be inspired to go into a record store because I've HEARD something compelling. No use cursing the available media. It's time to tap each other. We are as a group an informed consumership, but we're a pretty divergent group. Let's really put that to tangible cmmonity benefit.

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Cecil "Great Paris Concert" LP
by Chris Selvig 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Does anyone know anything about the Cecil Taylor double LP coming out on Get Back? There's some debate around here as to whether it's really live in Paris in 1964, and I don't really want to drop $23 to find out the truth. Chris Selvig

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Re: Michiyo Yagi
by David Keffer 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Michiyo Yagi also appears in several different ensembles on the recently released 4-cd compilation, "The Festival Beyond Innocence cd Series: A Brief History in 67 Chapters" on Innocent Records (FBI 102, 103, 104 & 105, four compact discs, 2002). FBI (Festival Beyond Innocence) is an imprint of the Innocence (formerly Zenbai) label of Kazuhisa Uchihashi. The Festival is held annually in the fall in Kobe, Japan and is curated by Uchihashi Kazuhisa of Altered States and many other ensembles. This compilation features pieces from the 1996, 97, 98, 99, and 2000 Festivals and, while I have only listened to disc three so far (just arrived in the mail yesterday), that much (all of it) is just great. In addition to Michiyo Yagi, all sorts of folks with instant name recognition on this list (Eugene Chadbourne, Steve Beresford, Han Bennink, Joelle Leandre, Haino Keiji, Otomo Yoshihide, RUINS, Elliott Sharp, Bob Ostertag, Martin Tétreault, KK Null etc) have appeared at the Festival and are represented on the compilation. Here is the track information: disc one (October 9 & 10, 1996 & October 10 & 11, 1997) 1. Otomo Yoshihide, Iwasaki Tetsuji & Kojima Takashi 2. Bidziliba (Fuchigami Junko, Furutaro, Era Mari, & Funato Hiroshi) 3. Umezu Kazutoki & Otani Yasuhiro 4. Psychoacoustic (Elliott Sharp & Zeena Parkins) 5. Tanaka Yumiko, Samm Bennett & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 6. Suonomono (Akamatsu Masayuki, Yamaji Atsushi, Kitahara Keiichi & Kitahara Takayuki) 7. Ruins (Yoshida Tatsuya & Sasaki Hisashi) & Otomo Yoshihide 8. Royal Queezit (Emi Eleonola, Katsui Yuji) & Yagi Michiyo 9. Omoide Hatoba (Yamamoto Seiichi, Tsuyama Atsushi, Atari & Ogushi Takashi) 10. Tsuyama Atsushi, Takara Kumiko & Era Mari 11. Emi Eleonola & Samm Bennett 12. Bob Ostertag & Otomo Yoshihide 13. Chino Shuichi & Yamamoto Seiichi 14. Martin Tétreault & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 15. Kam-pas-nel-la (Haco, Zeena Parkins, Samm Bennett, Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 16. Leonid Soybelman, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu disc two (October 10 & 11, 1997 & November 21 & 22, 1998) 1. Hans Reichel 2. Machida Ko, Yamamoto Seiichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 3. Katsui Yuji & Kinoshita Kazushige 4. Chiku Toshiaki, Haco & Takara Kumiko 5. Makigami Koichi & Thomas Buckner 6. Hans Reichel 7. Wono Satoru & Matsuzaki Junichi 8. 30th Century (Kawabata Minoru, Inada Makoto & Yuko Nexus 6) 9. Pon (Uemura Masahiro, Hirose Junji, Takara Kumiko, Tzuboguchi Masayasu & Shimizu Rei) 10. Hikutasu (Chiku Toshiaki, Ezaki Masafumi, Sekijima Takero, Ogata Takero & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 11. Tanaka Yumiko & Kido Natsuki 12. Kingjoe (Sasaki Hideaki & Masuko Tatsuki) & Diesel Guitar 13. Happiness Proof (Haco, Tsuyama Atsushi, Christopher Stephens & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu) & Sotoyama Akira 14. Harpy (Itoken, Kyoko, Onotetsu & Suzuki) 15. Kawabata Makoto 16. Makigami Koichi & Altered States (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 17. Tzuboguchi Masayasu & Iwata Ko 18. Hans Reichel, Harada Takashi & Samm Bennett disc three (November 21 & 22, 1998 & November 20 & 21, 1999) 1. Steve Beresford & Altered States (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Nasuno Mitsuru, & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 2. Helge Hinteregger, Yagi Michiyo, & Era Mari 3. Haino Keiji, Tuyama Atsushi & Samm Bennett 4. Kang Tae Hwan & Enka (Uchihashi Kazuhisa & Yoshigaki Yasuhiro) 5. Steve Beresford 6. Chino Shuichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 7. Phantasmagoria (Uchihashi Kazuhisa, Iwata Ko, Ezaki Masafumi, Ando Makiko, Inada Makoto, Kojima Takashi, Ichiraku Yoshimitsu) 8. Haino Keiji & Inada Makoto 9. Pa-pa (Inada Makoto, Katori Koichiro & Mizutani Yasuhisa) 10. Imai Kazuo 11. Ando Makiko, Yuko Nexus 6 & Unami Taku 12. Guitar Panic! (Haino Keiji, KK Null, Imahori Tsuneo & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) 13. Steve Beresford 14. Haco & Coa (Eddie & Bill) 15. Yanagawa Yoshinori & Katori Koichiro 16. Ne Zhdali (Leonid Soybelman, Andrei Kulagin, Ilya Komarov, Oleg Davidovitch, Vadim Veeremaa & Vitaly Redchits) disc four (November 21 & 22, 1998 & November 18 & 19, 2000) 1. Kakitsubata (Tagawa Masayasu, Tanimoto Syunsuke, Inoue Hideki, Nakayama Hironari, Nisikawa Bunsyo) 2. Eugene Chadbourne & Samm Bennett 3. Joelle Leandre & Era Mari 4. Formant Brothers (Miwa Masahiro & Sakonda Nobuyasu) 5. Skist (Ito Haruna & Samm Bennett) & Kang Tae Hwan 6. Shelley Hirsch, Takahashi Yuji, & Uchihashi Kazuhisa 7. Eugene Chadbourne, Yamamoto Seiichi & Yagi Michiyo 8. Chou (Kimura Fumihiko, Kojima Takashi & Ezaki Masafumi) 9. Hose (Unami Taku, Hattori Reiji, Izumi Tomoya, Koike Toshihiro, Ezaki Masafumi) 10. Won Jiksoo, Yamamoto Seiichi, Kawabata Minoru & Ichiraku Yoshimitsu 11. Hannoda Taku 12. Han Bennink, Uchihashi Kazuhisa & Ezaki Masafumi 13. Mutant (Iwata Ko, Mizutani Yasuhisa, Inoue Satoshi, Uchihashi Kazuhisa) & Haco 14. Joelle Leandre, Chino Shuichi & Unami Taku 15. Fuchigami to Funato (Fuchigami Junko & Funato Hiroshi) & Tanaka Yumiko 16. Kang Tae Hwan, Yamamoto Seiichi & Inada Makoto 17. Purist (Yamamoto Seiichi & Uchihashi Kazuhisa) This cd set was available at the 2002 Festival. Currently, it is only available by sending $70 (U.S.) (including shipping) to Uchihashi Kazuhisa 463-305 Negishi-cho Machida-shi Tokyo, Japan That's how I got my copy. David K.

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classical orchestras
by Kris Visser 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Again a question from me. but really, it's just a small one. I was thinking of buying some classical music, but as I don't buy classical music frequently, I realize that there are a lot of different renditions of the same piece by different orchestras. For example: I saw Messiaen's Quartet pour le fin de temps for really cheap. I was thinking that maybe the reason why it's cheap is because it's a performance by a bad orchestra (2nd hand instruments maybe?). To the people on this list who do listen to classical music frequently: does it matter which rendition I choose? Maybe it's different for each person. Or should I buy the earliest recorded performance of a piece? Or maybe there is an orchestra that you recommend, or disrecommend? Is there an orchestra that I can always trust on? Or should I just buy the cheapest cd? What should I do? Any help is appriciated. Kris

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top 10 for 2002
by Caleb T. Deupree 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

It takes me a year or two to find things, so not all of these were released this year. VA - Improvised Music from Japan. Perhaps this is cheating because it's so big, but what a great collection. My favorite discs are 3 (with the Yoshimitsu Ichiraku Cymbal Orchestra) and 4 (with Otomo's Blue Kite), but the whole set is amazing. Lionel Marchetti - Sirrus. Marchetti's become quite prolific with concrète and improvised releases lately. This one is an early work getting its first release, very well done. MIMEO & John Tilbury - The Hands of Caravaggio. John Tilbury's piano battling the electronic hordes. One of the best settings of an acoustic instrument in an electronic setting, and IMHO one of the best Erstwhile releases. Reinhold Friedl & Michael Vorfeld - Au défaut du silence. Bernhard Günter's trente oiseaux label released this improv album from two members of the fabulous new music ensemble Zeitkratzer, playing inside the piano and the cello. Arve Henriksen - sakuteiki. The trumpet player from Supersilent performing solo work, inspired by Japanese Shakuhachi music. Lutz Glandien - 5th Elephant. Glandien, Chris Cutler, and tuba player Michael Vogt spent a week or so in a studio but couldn't come up with anything worthwhile. Glandien returned to the material over several months and put together a superb, high energy album from the studio work, very much in keeping with Cutler's ReR aesthetic. Naked City - Live. No intro or commentary required. John Zorn - IAO. Ditto. Peter Gabriel - Up. My favorite pop album of the year. Great to see him back with new material. Janek Schaefer - Invisible Architecture #3. Live concert from a turntable whiz, layered loops from the white noise in between the tracks and other less identifiable sources. Top books: Francois Furet - Passing of an Illusion, a history of the idea of communism. Alan Furst - Night Soldiers, a fictional account covering much the same territory as Furet's history -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree(a)erinet.com

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stuff i like
by aaron chua 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

hi guys, kinda late w/ this.I'm not usually in the habit of making lists (because i can never remember what i liked, when i got them and because i change my mind all them time or never even decide if i like something). however, the zorn list and its top tens have been an important resource to me over the years so i thought i should write something,for what it's worth. so here's my list of stuff i like( i think)that i can remember. A bit more pop oriented at the moment. here goes... Top 25(?) discoveries of 2002 1. Stasis Duo live at the Planet Café in December (quiet restrained live electronic Improv(?)) 2. Kanchelis pieces performed in Melbourne the night i went(This man knows the value of restraint and never overeggs his compositions) 3. Qua live and Avocado live (laptop pop for the former and ditto plus harmonicas and guitars(?) if memory serves for the latter) 4. Sage Francis How to Write a Political Poem track from Known Unsoldiers (missed his live show but was inpired to check out his CD following positive reviews all round) 5. Harry Nilsson Pandemonium Shadow Show + Aerial Ballet (much better I think than the Aerial Pandemonium Ballet which took songs from both and reworked parts of them and hence doesnt flow as well) 6. Tom Fryers live set at the Collingwood Town Hall (solo guitar thru a Steim(?) black box) 7. The Dirt Bombs live and Ultraglide in Black fun rock& roll 8. Donny Darko 9.Alone a Spanish film I caught on TV(twice) part way through 10. Marcus Schmickler Param 11. Charlemagne Palestine 4 Manifestations of 6 elements (I cant remember when exactly I picked this up but Ill put it in my list anyway As recommended by J Abbey way back when) 12. Little Wings- CD from what I heard of the promo still waiting on my copy voice reminds me a little of Will Oldham) 13. Langley Schools Music Project CD on Basta havent even heard this all the way through 14. Dave Bermans book of poetry Actual Air and the Silver Jews the Natural Bridge 15. The Moldy Peaches Country fair Single first time I heard it made me feel all weird 16. Aesop Rocks Daylight EP 17. Autechre graf gantz(sp?) DVD 18. Themby (?) live at the Planet Café(textured electronics) 19. Stories of DJ Shadow takinit to the future yáll frm friend who attended show 20. David Foster Wallaces Brief Interviews w/Hideous Men & a Supposedly Funny Thing Ill Never Do Again 21. Albert Ayler that hat art(?) live recording in paris i think 22. Beachwood Sparks - Make the Cowboy Robots cry 23. Fuckhead - live at the What is Music Festival in Melbourne (amazing insanity) 24. Dave Eggers - a Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius 25. Bee Gees - I Started a Joke rgrds aaron __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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