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Ayler discography?
by Herb Levy 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Hi gang, Does any one know of an online discography of Albert Ayler? Thanks in advance. Bests, Herb

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Non-JZ FS: Laswell, Pimmon, William Hooker, Joyce, Maeror Tri
by pm.carey＠utoronto.ca 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Possibly of interest to Zorn-folks... ** AIR MAIL POSTAGE depends on DESTINATION ** If you don't like a price, make me an OFFER. All items here are BRAND NEW copies. $13 -- Maëror Tri - "Hypnotikum II" GRE LP (Poeta Negra/Absurd #5) 1998 [Continue droning... the 2nd, final installment... 4 more pieces based on live loops from Torino, Cologne & Ghent, 1996. NEW copy.] $ 8 -- Nelson Angelo e Joyce - "Nelson Angelo e Joyce" BRA CD (Odeon: SMOFB 3734 CD) 1999 [Classic bossa/folk collab. album from 1970. An LP-source pressing that has been around since 1999. NEW copy.] $25 -- Pimmon - "Waves And Particles" JAP CD (Meme: meme015CD) 1999 [Seminal early work from Paul Gough. Warm, as always, but quite a bit noisier than later works. NEW copy.] $13 -- V/A - "Tetragramaton: Submerge" US CD (Ion: IN2001-2) 1996 [Excellent compilation feat. tracks by Material w/ Graham Haynes (trumpet), Material w/ Byard Lancaster (sax), DJ Soul Slinger/ David Quinlan, DJ Spooky & Full Cone. NEW copy.] $ 9 -- William Hooker - "Mindfulness" US CD (Knitting Factory Works: KFW213) 1997 [Excellent 60 minute live set from August 15, 1996 at Slim's in SF. Feat. DJ Olive (We) on turntables, and Glenn Spearman on reeds. NEW copy.] -Patrick pm.carey(a)utoronto.ca

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Re: Great Jewish Music
by Eyal Hareuveni 17 Feb '03

17 Feb '03

Frisll is quite OK on this CD, but Marc Ribot and Tim Sparks are far better. If you liked the last Sparks' CD 'At the Rebbe's Table', you'll probably will like this one. Most of the tracks are played on the acoustic guitar. Eyal hareuveni hareuveni(a)hotmail.com >From: "William W. Schonbein" <wwschonb(a)artsci.wustl.edu> >To: Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> >CC: zorn list <zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: Great Jewish Music >Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:16:37 -0600 (CST) > > >On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Efrén del Valle wrote: > > > I've been lowering my expectations with > > Zorn lately, specially after this and Masada Guitars. > >Having not heard the masada guitars, could you (and anyone else who feels >like it) elaborate? i was thinking of picking it up, mostly for the >frisell, but have no idea what to expect. > >thanks, >whit > > > > All the best, > > > > Efrén del Valle > > n.p: Tim Sparks "Neshamah" (Tzadik) > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! Móviles > > Personaliza tu móvil con tu logo y melodía favorito > > en http://moviles.yahoo.es > > > > _______________________________________________ > > zorn-list mailing list > > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage >below > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Whit Schonbein >Department of Philosophy >Philosophy - Neuroscience - Psychology Program >Washington University >St. Louis, Missouri, USA > >wwschonb(a)artsci.wustl.edu >http://artsci.wustl.edu/~wwschonb/ >*** contact me for mailing address *** >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Fwd: Luc Ferrari and Robert Ashley at the Kitchen
by Perfect Sound Forever 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

>Electronic Xtravaganza >Luc Ferrari & DJ Olive: March 13 [Thu] 8pm $15 advanced sales/$20 at door >Share: March 14 & 15 [Fri & Sat] 7-11pm $10 (free for participants) >Xtravaganza Pass (3 shows): $25 >Electronic Xtravaganza brings together a (re) mix of generations for a >three-day electronic music fest. > >Robert Ashley: Celestial Excursions (US Premiere) >April 912 [Wed-Sat], 16-19 [Wed-Sat] 8pm $20 advanced sales/$25 at door >With Thomas Bruckner, Joan La Barbara and "Blue" Gene Tyranny see <http://www.thekitchen.org/> for more details

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Daily Victo beans spill update
by mwoodwor 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

OK - yet another new performing group added (#18) - which leaves 6 to go, although possibly 7, because as mentioned before, #16 may not actually be playing - as some of the members will be playing with Cobra, but that might be it. Keep those other 6 or 7 coming, almost there!! 1.Rene Lussier Orch - May 15 2.John Zorn Cobra - May 16 3. Mephista - May 16 4.John Zorn Electric Masada - May 17 5.K.K. Roll, Xavier Charles + Parasite - May 17 6.Block/Dutton/Makigami/Minton/Moss - May 17 7.Saitoh/Sawai/Kazuo/Doneda/Quan Ninh - May 17 8.F. Frith - Nouvel Ensemble Modern - May 18 9.William Parker/Guy/Leandre/Phillips - May 18 10. Rova - May 18 11.Pan Sonic + Peaches - May 18 12. Brotzmann/Parker - Double Trio - MAy 19 13. Melvins/Fantomas - May 19 14. Taku Sugimoto Guitar Quartet - NO date known yet/tentative 15. Ambarchi/Hecker duo - No date known yet 16. 2 X 2 (Samworth et al.) - NO date known yet/tentative 17. Annette Krebs/Andrea Neumann - No date known yet/tentative 18. Jean Derome/Joane Hétu - No date known yet Mike

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The Necks, and Yuko & Yoshimi
by Arthur Gadney 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

Hello people! I recently bought "Hanging Gardens" by The Necks and I love it!! Pretty unique music and definately extremely cool!! Some strange mix of 70s fusion jazz and Steve Reich. One song, more than 60 minutes, moving forward very very slowly. The introduction is like 15 minutes. So now I'm curious for their other albums? Which are recommended? "Hanging Gardens" sound like it uses overdubs quite a lot, and the other CDs look like mainly live, so how much does that change the sound? And did everybody see that Ipecac is releasing a CD with Yoshimi from Boredoms and Yuko Honda? That sounds interesting! Anybody has more info about it? (This might not seem related to Zorn, but in fact Neck drummer Tony Buck - who is amazing - has played with Zorn, and the same of course goes for Yoshimi and Honda... So! ;-) Cheers, _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: Great Jewish Music
by Eyal Hareuveni 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

That's how according Great Jewish Music: Sasha Argov CD was conceived, according to what Danny Zamir Told a music editor in the Voice of Music radio station here in Jerusalem. After Zamir's Satlah band covered on their 2nd CD, 'Exodus', a Hebrew song by M.Nardi, and dedicated their 3rd CD, 'Children of Israel', to Hebrew songs from the 1920-1940, Zamir's mother, who is a music teacher in Tel-Aviv, suggested that he'll record songs of Sash Argov. Zamir 'marketed' the idea to Zorn and you know the rest. It is ironic that Zamir and some of the artists on the Sasha Argov CD are trying to 'relocate' Israeli composers into the Klezmer tradition, while these composers cam to Israel from Eastern Europe, where the Klezmer music was popular, and tried to create new Israeli and Hebrew songs that will reflect the new Israeli experience and mot the Old World of Diaspora. Zamir, in fact, is neglecting their musical will and forces them back to a musical world which they abandoned. And one last thing about the GJM series. I never liked this term. Did Bacharach or Bolan think of them selves as Jewish Composers? Is there something Jewish in their music? It's seems more as a marketing trick. Beside, i still remember that Zorn/Tzadik wanted to include in that series a tribute to Dave Brubeck, and in the last minute found out that Brubeck is not Jewish, and released that CD on AVANT. Eyal Hareuveni hareuveni(a)hotmail.com P.S. I liked the 'Masada Guitars' cd. >From: Efrén del Valle <efrendv(a)yahoo.es> >To: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: Great Jewish Music >Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:59:36 +0100 (CET) > >Hi, > > >But some of the arrangements are quite nice, > >especially the one > >of > >Erik Friedlander, Elysian Fields,Uri Caine/Ben > >Perowsky and Mark > >Feldman. > >I'd say that these artists Eyal mentioned are actually >the only interesting in the whole album. The Bolan >tribute wasn't that good for me and this one just left >me cold and didn't make me want to know Argov's music >at all, which seems to be one of the purposes of the >GJM series. I've been lowering my expectations with >Zorn lately, specially after this and Masada Guitars. > >All the best, > >Efrén del Valle >n.p: Tim Sparks "Neshamah" (Tzadik) > > > > >___________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Móviles >Personaliza tu móvil con tu logo y melodía favorito >en http://moviles.yahoo.es > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: the necks
by Arthur Gadney 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

Hello, >Likewise I stumbled across Hanging Gardens and loved it, can also recommend >Aether from 2001. Similarly its a single track which clocks in at around an >hour. Progress is equally unhurried and quite magnificent for this fact. >Would be interested to hear more concrete info on the overdub front. I seem >to recall a review claiming no overdubs had been used, the album being >recorded live in studio. Or maybe I dreamt that. Then they must at the very least use a lot of samples. Listen to the drums for example. They fade in and out and plays different things at the same time and so on. Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: Politics of No Politics
by MorMovies＠aol.com 16 Feb '03

16 Feb '03

In a message dated 2/14/03 10:20:58 PM, ayac(a)sannet.ne.jp writes: << on 14/2/03 22:36, MorMovies(a)aol.com at MorMovies(a)aol.com scribed: > In a message dated 2/14/03 7:58:43 AM, ayac(a)sannet.ne.jp writes: > > << Please, show me one other thing on the planet that composes and/or > > improvises music with intentional design; perhaps we should give it a miss? > > Can't be quite natural enough for us, perhaps. > >>> > Why isn't the creation of music natural for us? Do you have proof that > proves otherwise? Are you sure we are the only animals that improvise or > compose or design with sound? Quite obviously you miss the point. The democracy of nature argument as justification for tolerating, resignedly putting up with, war (especially at this time) does not hold water, nor for anything else for that matter. That is the point. >> That's not the point. The discussion and the peace movement are about nonviolence and non-confrontation for any reason. There is never any justification for war or violence for some people! I believe this generally goes against the truth of existence and reality on this planet. Many things we do are not natural practices of most species. Most species do not kill their own kind intentionally; >> ??? they do fight and squabble and sometimes the result is death >> only "sometimes"? but death is not the common or intended outcome; running away is sufficient. >> You are taking the discussion to fantasy land. Of, course it would be nice if that was true. However, I don't accept your idea of what's "natural" for most species, what goes on their minds nor do I subscribe to your interpretations on animal behavior. You don't have the answer and I don't have the answer. My original rant was about preaching a lie, the idea of "peace." I believe in balance, not peace. (I believe peace is a sick lie and the rest of the planet does not acknowledge it, in my opinion). Sometimes you run, sometimes you fight. What's your point? I didn't say I was for this specific war or indicated what wars I would or wouldn't support. I am against LIES and both sides of the argument are guilty of waging lies. Additionally no other species amasses armies and wages war >> Oh, really? I'd like to believe that. Do you have new scientific data to reveal to us? To go back to nature's way; now I will go out, find a nice stream to drink from, puddle water looks gloomy, see if I can catch myself a lizard or two - or something juicier - to eat, and a bush to sleep under, away from the rain; can I have clothes, its kind of cold and I am of the hairless sort body wise? >> You're right, we are so above that! Sounds so "primitive" and untidy. This statement makes you appear to me as elitist and prejudiced against third world/native people whose daily routine you've pretty accurately described? Does that make them less than human and not worthy of any respect?

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ROVA FM Broadcast
by Roberto Barahona 15 Feb '03

15 Feb '03

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