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Masada 6 - Nevalah
by Richard Gardner 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

If there is anybody on the list that can help I have had a request from a friend that I can't answer. On Masada 6 is a tune called Nevalah. He has asked me what the time signature is on the track. It appears to be 7/8 but is not a regular 7/8. I don't own Masada 6 but if there are any musos out there who know the track and can nail the time down I would be very appreciative. Cheers Richard Gardner

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slayer
by giuliana ferraris 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

That is funny! I have annoyed a couple of boyfriends when i was heavily into Slayer (Reign in blood is also my favourite) and carcass (Simphony od sickness). I have not mellowed though, my current boyfriend has is share of noise: I'm into Merzbow at the moment. >>From: BabyStarzz(a)aol.com [mailto:BabyStarzz@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 4:25 PM >To: cv(a)cv.org >Subject: Re: [CV] Slayer.. > > >so we've got lots of hands up for Reign in Blood which would also be my >personal favorite... > >I feel as a woman who was subjected to Slayer by an ex-boyfriend for two >years that they are certainly among the most skilled and poetic metal bands >to >ever exisit. After my ex's second Slayer tattoo, I realized I'd never be >first in >his heart and we split, but i found myself going through a sort of Slayer >withdrawl....I have found a deep respect for them when for two years I had >venhmently hated their music.....ironic.... > >Kind of funny that as a girl my favorite was always Reign in Blood >though.....it seems oddly femenine.........BTW Tori Amos did a cover of >Raining Blood on >her album Strange Little Girls. Certainly worth checking out.....it is >nothing like Slayer's, but she makes it her own. Also.....Dave >Lombardo............hot.....up there w/ patton himself > >Also, John Zorn at Tonic on New Years was amazing. Didn't get to see >Patton, >but Electric Masada was so beautiful. Hope some of you were there as well. > > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Charlie Mingus question
by Perfect Sound Forever 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi all, I'm trying to find a source for the following story. Charlie Mingus had some serious issues about free jazz to say the least. At one show he presented, a band was playing some 'free' music behind a screen. He lifted the screen away to later reveal that it was a group of children learning to play their instruments. All done to make a point obviously. Does anyone know a source for this story? I seem to remember reading this in a jazz book but I can't find this now. Thanks in advance for any help with this, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine with warped perspectives since 1993 http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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Haco + Terre Thaemlitz' new cd out now !
by la louche 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi, After a long wait, here it finally comes ! HACO and TERRE THAEMLITZ new cd : YESTERDAY'S HEROES : 1979. 12 songs + a limited edition numbered poster, 12 euros/$ post paid. Check it there : http://www.freewebs.com/lalouche or directly here : lalouche48(a)hotmail.com Take care. Manu PS : here a short presentation of the project : A New Wave collaboration between Haco, the former lead of the influential '80s experimental post-rock group After Dinner and Terre Thaemlitz, A former "Underground Grammy Award" winning DJ from New York's Transexual clubs, and founder of Comatonse Recordings in 1993. Thaemlitz is widely considered one of America's leading producers of Ambient and Electro-acoustique musics. He has released ten solo albums, five EPs, two 7-inch singles, two collaborative albums (including with Bill Laswell), and several remixes. " We both wanted to do something different from peoples' expectations around us " and this was the result! Unlike the electro-revivalists and others trying to reinvent the 'coolness' of '80s music, Yesterday's Heroes is more interested in aspects of shame and embarassment affiliated with being a poseur outcast whose musical role models were always absorbed by the rock industry mechanics they sought to abandon. " We also raided our old photo albums and used computer magic to create the press pic.... "

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Tonic NYE
by SELC - Andrew Mortensen 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

>>>> John Zorn at Tonic on New Years was amazing. >>>>> did anyone tape it or any NYE shows? (didn't Hemophiliac do a show?) Andrew -----Original Message----- From: BabyStarzz(a)aol.com [mailto:BabyStarzz@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2004 4:25 PM To: cv(a)cv.org Subject: Re: [CV] Slayer.. so we've got lots of hands up for Reign in Blood which would also be my personal favorite... I feel as a woman who was subjected to Slayer by an ex-boyfriend for two years that they are certainly among the most skilled and poetic metal bands to ever exisit. After my ex's second Slayer tattoo, I realized I'd never be first in his heart and we split, but i found myself going through a sort of Slayer withdrawl....I have found a deep respect for them when for two years I had venhmently hated their music.....ironic.... Kind of funny that as a girl my favorite was always Reign in Blood though.....it seems oddly femenine.........BTW Tori Amos did a cover of Raining Blood on her album Strange Little Girls. Certainly worth checking out.....it is nothing like Slayer's, but she makes it her own. Also.....Dave Lombardo............hot.....up there w/ patton himself Also, John Zorn at Tonic on New Years was amazing. Didn't get to see Patton, but Electric Masada was so beautiful. Hope some of you were there as well.

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Re: sampling in avant garde and pop music
by Nudebruno＠aol.com 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

In a message dated 13/1/04 2:31:27 am, zorn-list-request(a)mailman.xmission.com writes: > what musician or composer do you feel really pushed the boundaries of what > > sampling can be for their genre? > Sorry to drag this one out but if you are examining sampling, surely you have to acknowledge that it was, if anything, technology driven. If Akai had not brought out affordable samplers in the early eighties, contemporary music would be radically different. Connected to the sampling thread, there was recently in the UK a fantastic tv documentary on the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. Not sure if this has been picked up anywhere else, but essential viewing if you can catch it. It explored the working methods of Delia Derbyshire, Milton Babbitt et al, fascinating stuff, and a strange mix of pioneering spirit set in the civil servants environment.

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sampling in avant garde and pop music
by adam morosky 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

hi everyone, i'm going to be giving a presentation for a class on the act of sampling in contemporary culture and i will be talking mostly about music. some of artists i will be discussing include the beatles (tape loop experiments), the residents, Negativeland, among others. i would definitely like to include hip hop and dub in my discussion, but i want to know if there are any musicians/composers that stand out as true sampling pioneers in Dub, Hip Hop, Pop, and avant garde music. i can think of plenty of people that sample music or media in these genres but i don't want to arbitrarily choose Beck or Dan the Automator just because they appeal to my tastes. I just want to open up the question: what musician or composer do you feel really pushed the boundaries of what sampling can be for their genre? thanks for any help! -adam morosky _________________________________________________________________ Scope out the new MSN Plus Internet Software optimizes dial-up to the max! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/plus&ST=1

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sampling: dj olive
by doron galili 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

At 10:03 13/01/2004 -0700, you wrote: >more recommendations on the whole sampling thing:... >DJ Olive does he have any solo releases? i know of his work with Uri Caine and SYR. any recommendations for other titles? thanks, Doron

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Praxis-Mold
by Craig Lieske 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

Aptly titled, sort of weak record that was collaged, with no real input from anybody other than turntablists, not particularly exciting...but not pathetic, either Craig L. _________________________________________________________________ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1

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An answer to Jennifer's question
by Craig Lieske 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

If you like the "Trembling Before G-d" CD, chances are you will like the other installations in the Filmworks series. If you don't have them already, "Bar Kokhba" and "The Circle Maker" will probably do it for you also. As for "Voices In The Wilderness", I would characterize it as very good, but not incredible, but certainly worth the money. Hope this helps... Craig L. _________________________________________________________________ Find out everything you need to know about Las Vegas here for that getaway. http://special.msn.com/msnbc/vivalasvegas.armx

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