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Re: Live masada CD
by nicola negri 03 Jul '03

03 Jul '03

well, the sound quality of that bootleg IS bad, but quite enjoyable, the ensemble passages are clear enough (not muddy like in the taipei tapes, for example) and the playing by all the musicians is awesome. if you find it at your local virgin store(!!), just buy it, that's my advice. kenny wollesen has always been the ideal substitute for baron, in my opinion, he fits perfectly in the music (after all he was the drummer for new klezmer trio, one of the declared predecessors of masada). talking about cohen, well, he actually sounds like he's on electric bass, but it's probably due to the mix, even if it wouldn't have surprised me too much if he picked up his bass-tarda for a gig.. "Now, ladies and gentlemen, please direct your attention towards the rear, not exactly the rear, just towards the rear. Ladies and gentlemen, the man in the four dollar jacket, the man that everyone says spends too much money on clothes. Ladies and gentlemen, he's starting to look a lot like Charlton Heston, and that can be a real asset when you're back in the States. Ladies and gentlemen, on the upright bass and the Vox electric. He made that little son-of-a-bitch all by himself, from things he found around the house. He calls it the "basstarda". Ladies and gentlemen, the inimitable... Mr Greg Cohen! (Big applause)" -Tom Waits bye bye nic >Message: 9 >Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 23:44:21 +0200 (CEST) >From: Efr?n del Valle<efrendv(a)yahoo.es> >Subject: Re: Live masada CD >To: zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com >Message-ID: ><20030702214421.2025.qmail(a)web41503.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >Now I remember that album. I didn't really know where >that recording came from, but the sound quality >standards are quite bad. However, if my memory serves, >Cohen sounded pretty loud in the mix and there's no >doubt that he played acoustic bass (I would have been >quite surprised if it weren't so). >best, >EfrÃ©n del Valle ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/

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Re: Live masada CD
by Andreas Dietz 03 Jul '03

03 Jul '03

I donÂ´t think thereÂ´s any legal ITM release. Owner Uli Blobel is known as a "classical Bootlegger" in Germany. The Live Masada was recorded in Hamburg not NYC and has amazing music with not so amazing sound quality. Andreas np: Alperin - Lechner - SÃ¶rensen / Night (ECM) >>4- Why was this cd never released by zorn himself? Is it legitimate? >it's a bootleg > >I was wondering about this. >The CD is on Jazz Door, a sublabel of the german ITM-Media. >As they have released several official releases of avant-garde jazz, I >always supposed this was a legitimate record label... > >Am I wrong about this? > >Maarten Hepp _________________________________________________________________ FotosÂ - Â MSN Fotos das virtuelle Fotoalbum. Allen Freunden zeigen oder einfach online entwickeln lassen: http://photos.msn.de/support/worldwide.aspx

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Re: Beakers reunion ?!?!?
by Herb Levy 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

"Jim Flannery" <newgrange(a)newgrangemedia.com> wrote: >Heck, third time I saw them play (_Solid Gold_ tour) it *was* the >Fillmore :-). (Beakers opened ... wouldn't >mind seeing a Beakers >reunion, either, me.) Though most of them (2-3 of the quartet) still live in Seattle, it seems damned unlikely that you'll live to see a Beakers reunion. Only one of them (Jim Anderson) has remained active as a musician, & I'm not sure if he has an ongoing band now. I'll let George & Jim know the band still has fans out there though. Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy P O Box 9369 Fort Worth, TX 76147 herb(a)eskimo.com

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Re: NO wave comeback 2003 ?!?!?!
by Perfect Sound Forever 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Other than the 20-year nostalgia rule, I think one thing that stuck out about no-wave was/is how unique it is. It didn't appear from nowhere obviously but it was so unlike other music around it then. Also, the fact that the scene appeared and disappeared quickly meant that it didn't have a chance to wear out its welcome. Thus, a small catalog of this music can be savored and also wondered about. Best, Jason Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine with warped perspectives perfect-sound(a)furious.com http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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No Wave/Melt Banana
by Craig Lieske 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

I've seen a lot of these bands that are namechecking the No New York scene and one of the few bands that I have seen that seem to have gotten it somewhat right are the Ex-Models. Sometimes they reming me of DNA at their most noisiest. I also feel that they have listened to Naked City a good bit also. Melt Banana have an abstracted kinship as well, one that I have never been able to explain, I felt this after seeing them in Atlanta last Novenber. In between all the high energy rock stuff there were these interludes of electronic noise sculptures that not only captured the No Wave feel but also made me feel a little like I was attending a Fluxus event. CL _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: NO wave comeback 2003 ?!?!?!
by Jim Flannery 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

skip Heller <velaires(a)earthlink.net>: > if Gang Of 4 reunited tomorrow, they'd be playing > venues the size of the Fillmore. Heck, third time I saw them play (_Solid Gold_ tour) it *was* the Fillmore :-). (Beakers opened ... wouldn't mind seeing a Beakers reunion, either, me.) -- Jim Flannery newgrange(a)newgrangemedia.com

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drummers
by AM FREQUENCIES 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

with all the drum talk, I thought I'd mention some great & tasteful drummers (I left out Baron coz we all know he's god + other jazz/Zorn drummers... which I'm sure most know) Some great drummers, who (maybe) use double-kick: * Tatsuya Yoshida (Ruins) - I'm not sure if he uses double kick, but he is an amazing drummer! * Richard Hoak (Brutal Truth) - Rich did do "standard metal-double-kick" things, but what I loved was his blast beats, especially on "Need To Control", they were like psycho jazz fills - (I'm no drummer so it's hard to explain...) instead of whacking the snare heaps & hard (16ths), he'd do something like lots of triplet-like things or something combined with cymbal & hi-hat rudiments, a fast version of what Elvin Jones or some jazz great would.... (??? I don't know how to explain it, but I could be totally wrong, but he just stands out to me from other metal drummers) * Chris Penne (The Dillinger Escape Plan) - Now here's a 'metal' drummer who plays tasteful & creative things, AWESOME! (but he could use a single...??) * Tony Williams - did he use double kick in 'Arcana'? * Danny Heifetz (Mr Bungle, SC3) - he doesn't use double kick, but maybe it in the old days. Great drummer. * Terry Bozzio - he can be full-on, but he's one of the most creative drummers I can think of (having toms tuned a semi-tone apart & a number of closely tuned cymbals) - being melodic. * Tomas Haake (Meshuggah) - Now he doesn't play standard metal double kick! AWESOME that'll do.....

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Mick Harris
by AM FREQUENCIES 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

I did a seacrh on "Rhinocharge" * only came up with the recorded company which is Mick's production name or something..... where can i hear these mp3s? Original Message: ----------------- From: Alfonso Vargas Gamio Enfermo(a)rocketmail.com Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:18:19 -0500 To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: Kevin Sharp He actually got behind the kit last year!!! He recorded 2 or 3 grindcore tracks on his own under the "Rhinocharge" moniker... somebody posted one of those tracks on the Relapse Records message board and that's where I got it. A fun 35-second grind blast... can't remember the name of it right now. AVG np: Marillion - Misplaced Childhood --------------- Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 09:37:33 +0000 From: "Arthur Gadney" <a_gadney(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Kevin Sharp To: dave(a)silent-watcher.net, zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com When was the last time Mick Harris played drums?? I remember some years ago he mentioned that Zorn wanted him to record a duo with some organ player for Tzadik. Sounds pretty interesting, but I never heard about it later. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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re: grand guignol
by amfrequencies＠bigpond.com 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

> don¹t know about galas...material. speaking of which, does anyone know what exactly the differences are? ## from what i gathered, the songs that are on "Torture Garden" & not on "G.G" are the ones that were recorded in a different studio, but here is what Zorn's discog page says: Note: all the songs except (2,6,7,18,24,26,36,37,39) are also available on GRAND GUIGNOL (1992). Note: (2,6,7,18,24,26,36,37,39) were previously released on NAKED CITY (1990). 1/ Blood is Thin 2/ Demon Sanctuary 3/ Thrash Jazz Assassin 4/ Dead Spot 5/ Bonehead 6/ Speedball 7/ Blood Duster 8/ Pile Driver 9/ Shangkuan Ling-Feng 10/ Numbskull 11/ Perfume Of A Critic's Burning Flesh 12/ Jazz Snob Eat Shit 13/ The Prestidigitator 14/ No Reason To Believe 15/ Hellraiser 16/ Torture Garden 17/ Slan 18/ Hammerhead 19/ The Ways Of Pain 20/ The Noose 21/ Sack Of Shit 22/ Blunt Instrument 23/ Osaka Bondage 24/ Igneous Ejaculation 25/ Shallow Grave 26/ Ujaku 27/ Kaoru 28/ Dead Dread 29/ Billy Liar 30/ Victims Of Torture 31/ Speedfreaks 32/ New Jersey Scum Swamp 33/ S & M Sniper 34/ Pigfucker 35/ Cairo Chop Shop 36/ Fuck The Facts 37/ Obeah Man 38/ Facelifter 39/ N.Y. Flat Top Box 40/ Whiplash 41/ The Blade 42/ Gob Of Spit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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Creative double bass
by Craig Lieske 02 Jul '03

02 Jul '03

Dennis Chambers work, especially with John Scofield in the 80's. Saw him with Scofield live in Atlanta right after Blue Matter came out. I was maybe 22 at the time, very impressive to me... CL _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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