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Roxy Music
by Craig Lieske 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

There's a DVD available of Roxy Music that is taken from German TV in the 70's. It's before Eno left the band, and the group just totally kicks ass! It's one of the best live performances I've seen so far on DVD. Unfortunately the DVD is split between them doing 6 songs and T Rex doing lame ass versions of a few of their songs. It would have been better to get the full performance of Roxy, I think. Personally, I rather liked Avalon. I saw a poll where it was voted as one of the top makeout albums of all time, and I think they're onto something there... Craig L. _________________________________________________________________ Get dial-up Internet access now with our best offer: 6 months @$9.95/month! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

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Ikue Mori / Selling Stuff
by patRice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EfrÃ©n wrote... >pleasure to go back to old stuff for me. Ikue >Mori has >been playing for a couple of days now in >different >settings ("One Hundred Aspects of the Moon", >Death >Ambient, Hemophiliac,...) And not a single week >goes What's "One Hundred Aspects of the Moon" all about? I'm not familiar with Mori's work (remember listening to "Painted Desert" when it came out, and not being into it). Is this work based on Yoshitoshi's woodblock print series of the same name? (Which I absolutely adore.) >> to the mainstream or to the avant-garde. Thank >>God >> we have eBay >> these days to get rid of the stuff that is not >> played! >I do that as well, but I'm afraid some day I'll >regret >it... I've sold CDs in the past because I'd gotten tired of them. Ended up buying most of them again... patRice www.silverknuckle.com www.tattoo-source.com np: Fantomas, Director's Cut nr: Bangkok Post >I just listened to a couple of Broadcast tracks a >moment ago and they're really impressive (in fact I'll buy their latest Cd when I get out of work, so THANKS for the recommendation). Pram was a band that crossed my mind right after I sent my previous e-mail. I think they're fantastic and I still can't understand why they don't get more exposure. "Dark Islands" was really high in my Top 2003. A wonderful pop record with many references to other genres (although well diluted into their own discourse). Their previous works are also incredible. ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Save Â£80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=21064/*http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Re: 2003 Top 10
by Efrén del Valle 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Since 2003 seems to be almost over financially speaking for me, here's my list too. In no particular order, except for the first one. 1. Eyvind Kang "Virginal Coordinates" (I Dischi Di Angelica) I think it's even better than his previous releases although it goes similar ways as "The Story of Iceland". Medieval references, classical composition, minimalism, epic sound, ... - Adachi Tomomi Royal Chorus "Yo" (Tzadik) Great a cappella septet. Lots of fun and unbelievable precision. Miles away from Zuvi Zuva. - Eugene Chadbourne/RenÃ© Lussier "L'Oasis" (Victo) Amazing C&W/improv show. Extended techniques and formal mastery and lots of fun throughout. - Chien Yin-Chen "Purr" (Tzadik) Excellent chamber music. Very dynamic, rythmic and varied album. - Satoko Fujii/Tatsuya Yoshida "Toh-Kichi" (Victo) Something between post-taylorian piano and Ruins' frantical hardcore. As good as you might expect - Pram "Dark Islands" These guys keep doing better and better with this sort of outer-space/horror movie pop. - Marc Ribot "Scelsi Morning" (Tzadik) Much in the vein of Shrek, but more chamber-oriented. As noisy and dark as Ribot can get. - Fred Anderson "Back at the Velvet Lounge" (Delmark) - Paul Shapiro "Midnight Minyan" (Tzadik) The typical jazz/klezmer blend but really enjoyable. - Julius Hemphill "One Atmosphere" (Tzadik) One of the best Hemphill I've heard. Very dynamic with a string quartet plus piano, a trio with the great Marty Ehrlich on Flute and a lovely wind septet. - John Zorn "Filmworks XIV: Hiding and Seeking" (Tzadik) It's not groundbreaking but undoubtely beautiful music. What else can you ask for? - John Zorn "Chimeras" (Tzadik) Really intrincate and dark. Although it's not my favorite Zorn side, it's still haunting to listen to this. - Active Ingredients "Titration" (Delmark) The first project by drummer Chad Taylor. A good meeting of Chicago and NYC greats in an excellent free-jazz album. - Various "Japanese New Music Festival European Tour 2003" (Magaibutsu Limited) Non-2003 albums: -Burt Bacharach "After the Fox" (Ryko) -Les Baxter "Tamboo/Skins" (Collectables Records) -The Beach Boys "Smile" (Sea of Tunes) -Anthony Braxton "For Alto" (Delmark) -Anthony Braxton "3 Compositions of New Jazz" (Delmark) -Alice Coltrane "Journey in Satchidananda" (Impulse!) -Alice Coltrane "Ptah The El Daoud" (Impulse!) -John Coltrane "Live in Japan" (Impulse!) -Frank Comstock "Music from Outer Space" (Warner) -Martin Denny "The Exotic Sounds of Martin Denny" (Capitol) -Martin Denny "Exotica/Exotica 2" (Scamp) -Luc Ferrari "Cellule 75" (Tzadik) -Bruce Haack "The Electric Lucifer. Book 2" -Dick Hyman "Moon Gas" (MGM) -Jimmy Lyons "Other Afternoons" (BYG Actuel) -Hugo Montenegro "Come Spy With Me" (RCA Spain) -Hugo Montenegro "More Music from the Man from U.N.C.L.E" (RCA Spain) -Lou Reed "The Blue Mask" (BMG) -Steve Reich "Variations for Winds, Strings and Keyboards" (Deutsche Grammophon) -Steve Reich "Music for 18 Musicians" (BMG) -Raymond Scott "Manhattan Research Inc." (Basta) -Raymond Scott "Soothing Sounds for Baby Vols. I-III" (Basta) -Morton Subotnik "Silver Apples of the Moon/The Wild Bull" (Wergo) -Various Artists "In His Own Sweet Way: A Tribute to Dave Brubeck" (Avant) -Charles Wuorinen "Lepton" (Tzadik) -Bill Laswell "Invisible Design" (Tzadik) -John Zorn "New Traditions In East Asian Bar Bands" (Tzadik) Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle _______________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sorteos Â¡Ya puedes comprar LoterÃa de Navidad! http://yahoo.ventura24.es/

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Re: unopened cds and guilty pleasures
by francko.lamerikx＠philips.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Efren responded to my ranting: > However, as we discussed here some days > ago, I don't think mainstream pop music is offering > too much these days and I can't think of any musicians > in that field who are actively blending art and > commerciality as, say, Beatles did 30-something years > ago. Some names came up: Radiohead, Björk, Beck and > even Sonic Youth, but I think these guys are playing > in a totally different league and they're not on the > hunt for the "summer song". I only read the mails in that thread when it had already died down... I think there are a few bands out there who are trying to mix elements they have taken from the avant-garde with pop sensibilities - Mr.Bungle springs to mind as a likely candidate, as well as "Angel Dust"-era Faith No More. Continuing the Broadcast thread, I think they succeed extremely well in marriaging avant elements with pop. They represent the sounds of the sixties better than many bands from the era. I would also like to draw the attention to bands that operate in a similar vein, like Pram and Electrelane who have released albums that get high marks in The Wire while still being digested by London's hippest. I will be laughed at for stating this here, probably, but one of the bands that brought the art world and the commercial world together was the Peter Gabriel-era incarnation of Genesis. While operating entirely in the rock arena, their music was influenced by the likes of the Beach Boys, Stockhausen, and Alejandro Jodorowsky much more than it was by any of their contemporaries (with the exception of King Crimson, whose debut album they supposedly nailed to the wall of their rehearsal space as an icon of what they wanted to achieve for themselves). > The point isn't maybe seeing what others can't see, > but getting pointed to new directions through a > particular artist. Quentin Tarantino, for example, > who's an incredibly popular person, had lots of us > looking for blaxploitation, kung-fu or film > noir/low-profile gangster movies. It's not necessarily > a post-modernist possee. Or maybe it is, but I > double-checked some popular genres thanks to him and > that I find very enrichening. "Slow" is a great > single, but I think Minogue is just entertaining, and > I'll probably forget that tune in a couple of months. > Or even worse, it will be outdated in three years. > In a completely different environment, following > Zorn's career or just reading the liner notes to his > albums you can get enough information to read, listen > and watch for years. It's great to be pointed in various directions, and it is also true that the best conduit for this are those artists who wear their influences on their sleeves (better still, write about them or tell them to everyone who wants to hear) - Tarantino, Lynch, Zorn, Mr.Bungle, Merzbow, Stereolab... any of these artists could be the basis for a life-long investigation into the art world. It is also true that most artists (or entertainers) operating in the mainstream either do not have such broad ranges of influences (especially when they do not compose their own material), or they are not explicit about them. Maybe you will have forgotten "Slow" in a year, but chances are you will also have forgotten "Filmworks XIV", or the latest Derek Bailey CD. How many experimental CDs are in your collection (or, for that matter, anyone's) that you return to with any regularity? I find that, the more CDs I obtain, the more I restrict myself to a selected few when I return to stuff I bought longer than, say, a year ago. In my case, I will return to Genesis' "Foxtrot", Faith No More's "Angel Dust", or the first Iancu Dumitrescu CD on Edition MN a hundred times before I return to anything else in my collection that I have owned for as many years. Listening to music as much as we do, the thrill is always in getting new stuff, and the old stuff often gets forgotten regardless of whether it belongs to the mainstream or to the avant-garde. Thank God we have eBay these days to get rid of the stuff that is not played! > A very good appreciation here, imho, but I'd rather > make a distinction between "truly innovative" and > "experimental", and the former is much more difficult > to achieve in any field. That's true, and that's why it also pays off to look for the "truly excellent" in addition to the "truly innovative". These days, I can appreciate a really well-done metal album whereas I denied myself the pleasure of that a few years ago because the music was "not innovative". I think it is as difficult to produce an album that is quintessential in any genre as it is to come up with something entirely new. Regards, Frankco

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Re: Bennink
by Andreas Dietz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

this remembers me of one of the worst concerts IÂ´ve attended: a duo of Kondo on small radios and tubes and Chadbourne on rotten guitar made of sheet metal back in 1979 in Berlin. Most entertaining was the audience throwing cushions on the stage. The audience at the Berlin festival was known for his critical behavior and Carla Bley presented her piece Boo To You Too with payed booers who yelled at an arranged time in the same year... Andreas PS: IÂ´ve never heard this Golden Years record and probably wouldnÂ´t purchase np: Irene Schweizer - Piano Solo Vol. 2 (Intakt) >From: Dan Given <dan.given(a)ualberta.ca> > >But on record, I've yet to find a real dog, though I'm not as high on Nerve >Beats as Ken is. And that thing on Leo Golden Years with Kondo and >Chadbourne should never have seen the light of day. _________________________________________________________________ 5 neue Buddies = 50 FreeSMS. http://messenger-mania.msn.de MSN Messenger empfehlen und krÃ¤ftig abrÃ¤umen!

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New ISO
by Bill Ashline 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The new ISO CD is now out, and it's terrific. A 41 minute live recording housed in an ivory digipack with raised engraving of interweaving diagonal lines by Keita Egami. It's released on the Sound Tectonics label of the Yamaguchi Center for Arts and Media, so it might be difficult to come by outside of Japan. It was recorded live at the Sesshu-tei Garden in Yamaguchi and is unique for its inclusion of outside sounds. Here are the brief liner notes: "It is said that Sesshu-tei Garden of Joeiji Temple in Yamaguchi city was built by Sesshu, a priest and artist, about five hundred years ago. The garden is positioned on the north of the main temple, and in the center of the inner garden of about 30 acres is a pond, which is shaped in the Chinese character of "heart," surrounded by many vertically-standing stones. The woods on the east, west, and north sides of the garden make up the shape of a horseshoe, which creates a special space for vision and sound. For this live performance, three performers were positioned around the garden apart enough not to see each other to present their music over the garden. (ISO/left side: Yoshihide Otomo, center: Sachiko M, right side: Yoshimitsu Ichiraku). Note: this CD was recorded through one-point stereo recording in the center of the main temple. The surrounding sounds such as animals around the garden, wind, and visitors were kept as they were at the mastering, because if they had been mechanically removed, delicate feelings generated by the extremely subtle sounds penetrating the whole garden would have been ruined." Indeed, there is a perpetually barking dog in the background throughout the first ten or so minutes of the recording and occasionally the wind picks up into the microphones, but the music itself is very, very understated and quiet. Think Ensemble Cathode for comparisons, with a more stripped down ensemble of course. Sachiko M starts with a quiet sine wave at first and moves into using contact microphones around the middle of the performance before going back to sine waves in the latter part. Ichiraku's playing is particularly outstanding here on amplified bowed cymbal. At about the sixteen minute mark, a duck intervenes in the proceedings, but the animal sounds are not at all annoying, in fact rather interesting. By this point in the performance, the dog has receded out of ear-shot. Ichiraku raises the intensity before dropping out briefly and then the sine waves once again emerge rather prominently. Otomo works almost exclusively on guitar here (I think), using feedback at times or gently plucking the strings or scraping them with a bow. And the wind provides lower register interventions, with full pops filling up the right channel. I'd strongly recommend this. Probably ISO's most delicate piece of work to date in an otherwise novel recording. ------ End of Forwarded Message

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Top 10 for 2003...
by patRice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey boys & girls... Wow... All your Top 10s made me realize just how much I am out of touch with all the goings-on since living in Thailand... (Lots of catching up to do when I go to Europe in January.) All things music are extremely commercial here. And having new CDs sent over is very expensive... So - I've mainly been listening to stuff on my iBook, plus what I've been able to MP3 from friends who came over. Here's some of the new-ish stuff... 01. Ali Omar, Arabian Nights 02. Fifty Foot Combo, Go Hunting! 03. Various, Indian Sexy Songs (VCD) 04. Stereo MCs, Deep Down And Dirty 05. Various, War Of The Surf Guitars 06. Hitomi Yaida, Candlize 07. Matsu Takako, Complete Singles 08. Yumi Matsutoya, Acacia 09. Placebo, Without You I'm Nothing And here some of the stuff I've rediscovered... 01. The Pixies, Complete B Sides 02. The Pixies, At The BBC (Peel Sessions) 03. Geto Boys, Geto Boys 04. Elvis Presley, Great Country Songs 05. Frank Zappa, You Are What You Is 06. Tim Sparks, Neshamah 07. Iron Maiden, Live At Donnigton 08. The Cure, Disintegration 09. The Cure, Wish 10. Various, Biggest Dancehall Anthems 1979 - 1982 11. Dream Theater, Images And Words My books of the year: 01. Grime, Two-Year Autopsy 02. Michel Houellebecq, Platform 03. Michel Houellebecq, Atomic Particles 04. Ben Elton, High Society 05. M. L. Manich Jumsai, Ten Lives Of Buddha 06. M. L. Manich Jumsai, Thai Folk Tales 07. Fr. Joe Maier, The Slaughterhouse - True Stories from BKK Slums 08. Barwise & White, A Traveller's History: South East Asia 09. Ian Buruma, God's Dust 10. Michael Moore, Dude Where's My Country? patRice www.silverknuckle.com www.tattoo-source.com np: The Cure, Boys Don't Cry nr: Kiyosaki, Rich Dad Poor Dad ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Save Â£80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=21064/*http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Ikue Mori / Selling Stuff
by patRice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EfrÃ©n wrote... >pleasure to go back to old stuff for me. Ikue >Mori has >been playing for a couple of days now in >different >settings ("One Hundred Aspects of the Moon", >Death >Ambient, Hemophiliac,...) And not a single week >goes What's "One Hundred Aspects of the Moon" all about? I'm not familiar with Mori's work (remember listening to "Painted Desert" when it came out, and not being into it). Is this work based on Yoshitoshi's woodblock print series of the same name? (Which I absolutely adore.) >> to the mainstream or to the avant-garde. Thank God >> we have eBay >> these days to get rid of the stuff that is not >> played! >I do that as well, but I'm afraid some day I'll >regret >it... I've sold CDs in the past because I'd gotten tired of them. Ended up buying most of them again... patRice www.silverknuckle.com www.tattoo-source.com np: Fantomas, Director's Cut nr: Bangkok Post >I just listened to a couple of Broadcast tracks a >moment ago and they're really impressive (in fact I'll buy their latest Cd when I get out of work, so THANKS for the recommendation). Pram was a band that crossed my mind right after I sent my previous e-mail. I think they're fantastic and I still can't understand why they don't get more exposure. "Dark Islands" was really high in my Top 2003. A wonderful pop record with many references to other genres (although well diluted into their own discourse). Their previous works are also incredible. ________________________________________________________________________ BT Yahoo! Broadband - Save Â£80 when you order online today. Hurry! Offer ends 21st December 2003. The way the internet was meant to be. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=21064/*http://btyahoo.yahoo.co.uk

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Bennink
by Andrew Stiffler 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

I think "Live in Berlin '71" on FMP is fantastic. Andrew Top 4 in player: Susie Ibarra Trio - Songbird Suite Susie Ibarra/Mark Dresser - Tone Time Gebbia/Kowald/Sommer - Cappuccini Klang Biggi Vinkeloe - Slowdrags and Interludes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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Noah Howard - Patterns
by Andrew Stiffler 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

Noah Howard - Patterns Eremite has this one available on cd. Andrew __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/

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