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O)+> is he really???
by Matthew Garrington 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

I heard Prince is now a Jehovah's witness. Does anyone know if this is true? Matt g _____________________________________________________________"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." - Benjamin Franklin____________________________________________________________ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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New Music Auctions: Zorn among others
by Herb Levy 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Hi all, I'm back to the auction circuit and thought some of you might be especially interested in the batch of things I have online now, as it includes the original vinyl releases of Zorn's Archery, Pool and Hockey, as well as new music recordings by John Adams, Glenn Branca, John Cage, Philip Glass, Harry Partch and others. <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=hrebll> Bests, Herb -- Herb Levy P O Box 9369 Fort Worth, TX 76147 herb(a)eskimo.com

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very rare cd w/ trevor dunn
by brian sullivan 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

hello. does anybody have doug yokoyama, identities? its got trevor dunn and elliott kavee who's played w/ tim berne and now marty ehrlich on drums. thanks, brian. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: experimental late fahey
by Gerald Brennan 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

For me just about any Fahey is great Fahey. (I don't much care for his version of "Twilight Time" but his post-Takoma albums tend to get a bit of a bum rap.) One of the most "experimental" records he did early on was The Great Dan Bernadino Birthday Party. Lots of tape experiments and such. The sound quality on that album is NOT the greatest however. A better choice, along with Requia, IMO is Days Have Gone By, which besides some tape manipulations (mostly for atmosphere) includes some of his wildest work in open tunings as well as traditional stuff like Grandfather's Clock. It's one of my favorites. John Fahey Visits Washington DC is a great record too. The more outside stuff on that record was the result of Fahey's encounter with Bola Sete's GREAT album Ocean Waves (Fahey released the album on Takoma actually). JFVWDC may be hard to find on CD--it was re-released by Allegiance Records a number of years ago. Amoeba in SF had it the last time I was there. Check out The Dance of Death and Other Plantation Favorites as well as America (his best in my opinion). Both were re-released by Fantasy recently. Of his MUCH later work, most of it on Fender Telecaster (I believe) rather than acoustic: I remember being impressed by City of Refuge, and The Epiphany of Glenn Jones. These records (and other from City of Refuge on) are the REALLY outside Fahey works, way different from his work of 1950-90. I recently read an old interview in which he said this was the kind of music he wanted to play all along but didn't have the guts to do. I think it may have alienated many long-time Fahey fans, even those who liked the tape manipulation things he did in the 1960s. I remember it being very dark, bleak even. I guess I'm going to have to pull a couple of the newer things out tonight... Jerry Caleb and Sondra wrote: "Requia" is one of the neatest fahey albums. it has a lot of field recordings and tapes and record collages on it while he's playing. that was one of the records that got me into experimental folk and drone, and even country and blues.. (where before i was more into harsh everything). I'd love to hear more experimental Fahey recommendations myself. So i keep hearing how great "trasmorfigation of blind joe death" and "death chants and military waltzes" are. (titles not recalled correctly, i'm sure). what are those like? From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree(a)erinet.com> Subject: experimental late fahey The December Wire Tapper includes a gorgeous electric John Fahey cut that sounds like nothing else from him that I've heard. According to the notes, it's from a forthcoming Revenant release. I followed him through the early Takoma/Vanguard years, but my tastes changed and I didn't pay much attention to him (or any other acoustic music) after the early 1970s. We picked up his album Rain Forests & Oceans (with an interesting two-guitar version of Layla), but I'd be interested in reading about Fahey's experimental side in other more recent releases.

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Re: O)+>
by Perfect Sound Forever 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

In my own experience, I've found that his biggest sellers are also the ones that I keep coming back to: Purple Rain, 1999, Sign O' The Times. Emancipation is a fine one too, which is interesting because that and 1999 and Times were all multi-album/CD sets. The man knows how to do excess well I guess. Though I haven't listened to them in a while, I remember that Dirty Mind and Parade were impressive records too. I know he likes to stick to playing with his own groups like the Revolution and New Power Generation. Shame that he doesn't jam with any Zorn people. Best, Jason -- Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine with warped perspectives perfect-sound(a)furious.com http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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Re: O)+>
by Vincent Kargatis 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Btw, in case it's not common enough knowledge, he's reclaimed the name "Prince" again. > From: "Kurt Gottschalk" <ecstasymule(a)hotmail.com> > But I'm fascinated by Kurt's inclusion of Rainbow Children, > >which on first listen sounded like a ponderous Jehovah's Witness concept > >album. Should I try again? > > you should absolutely try it again. the jehova stuff is easily overlooked > after a couple listens, and really isn't that overt anyway. [...] > the album is his best entire album, start to > finish, in a decade or so. great band feel, and no painfully embarassing > songs. Well, "Wedding Feast" is intolerable even as a joke - I can't even stand the 60 seconds it lasts... :) I don't think the lyrics are quite so easy to overlook, but I can do it, since I'm not lyrically-oriented anyway. It's pretty strong musically, but only a few songs approach previous musical heights. A few sound to me competent retreads of previous stuff ("1+1+1=3" [cf. shockadelica era], "The Work pt 1" [cf Sexy Motherfucker - we only need one overt JB style track from Prince], etc) - the title track is very nice, and I like closers a lot - good Prince anthems ('everlasting now', 'last december'). 'Family Name' I find forgettable. Still, worth picking up, imo. Haven't heard any of ONA. I suppose as an old (but failing) Prince fan, I should seek it out. -- Vincent Kargatis np: Dismemberment Plan - "A Life Of Possibilities" (Live @ Crocodile 2-26-00 early)

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RE: O)+>
by Kurt Gottschalk 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

>I haven't paid enough attention to Come, clearly, if both Skip and Kurt are >pushing it. to my mind, lovesexy, black and come are a trilogy that represent the (mock?) struggles which make his work so much more than just pop porn. in the first two, it's obvious: camille battles the spookyelectric on black, and rises above on lovesexy. prince laid out as much in interviews at the time. come has much the same feel as the other two, tho it's probably the least interesting of the three. but it has much of the beautiful sparseness that defines some of his best songs (like 'joy in repitition' from grafitti bridge). But I'm fascinated by Kurt's inclusion of Rainbow Children, >which on first listen sounded like a ponderous Jehovah's Witness concept >album. Should I try again? you should absolutely try it again. the jehova stuff is easily overlooked after a couple listens, and really isn't that overt anyway. it reminds me more of the loose storybook themes he's used elsewhere ('rain is wet, sugar is sweet/clap your hands, stomp your feet/everybody, everybody knows/when love calls, you gotta go'). the album is his best entire album, start to finish, in a decade or so. great band feel, and no painfully embarassing songs. > >Anyone heard One Nite Alone... Live!, the new 3CD box that just came out? would love to hear it. i have a boot of the nyc show (which i also went to). but i think p's mission to prove that an artist can make it on his own is being done at the expense of fans. $60 for the 3 cd, and i don't know how much for the 4cd, which includes a solo piano and vocal disc that i wouldn't be happy without. eventually i'll figure a way to have it, i'm sure, but sheesh. > >And where did you find the Crucial boot, Michael? i may have said this earlier, but the crucial boot is less than crucial. kg _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: experimental late fahey
by sondra halabi 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

"Requia" is one of the neatest fahey albums. it has a lot of field recordings and tapes and record collages on it while he's playing. that was one of the records that got me into experimental folk and drone, and even country and blues.. (where before i was more into harsh everything). I'd love to hear more experimental Fahey recommendations myself. So i keep hearing how great "trasmorfigation of blind joe death" and "death chants and military waltzes" are. (titles not recalled correctly, i'm sure). what are those like? From: "Caleb T. Deupree" <cdeupree(a)erinet.com> Subject: experimental late fahey The December Wire Tapper includes a gorgeous electric John Fahey cut that sounds like nothing else from him that I've heard. According to the notes, it's from a forthcoming Revenant release. I followed him through the early Takoma/Vanguard years, but my tastes changed and I didn't pay much attention to him (or any other acoustic music) after the early 1970s. We picked up his album Rain Forests & Oceans (with an interesting two-guitar version of Layla), but I'd be interested in reading about Fahey's experimental side in other more recent releases. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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Re: List archive
by alastair＠pretentious.co.uk 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

Happy New Year, one and all. I for one would welcome the availability of searchable archives for the early stuff. Go for it! Alastair -----Original Message----- >From : Gregoire Hamon <hamon(a)csl.sri.com> To : zorn-list(a)lists.xmission.com Date : 04 January 2003 19:11:17 Subject : List archive Hi all, > >yesterday I was searching what the list has had to say on some >Zorn's past issues, and start browsing the list archives which prior >to 2002 seem to be only available in a digest form which is a little >bit of a pain to use. > >I converted those archives to (somewhat) valid mbox files which I could browse >and search using my email client, and then converted then to html browsable >files. > >If some of you are interested in getting those files, I can make them >available, those are the list archives from 1996 to may 2002 (since then >they are accessible on xmission). > >Greg > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list > -- Personalised email by http://another.com

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Re: One-stop shopping for inside & outside music?
by Vincent Kargatis 06 Jan '03

06 Jan '03

> From: "William Crump" <crumpw(a)bellsouth.net> > I'd like to do some one-stop shopping and not pile up a bunch of shipping > charges by buying from five or six etailers. Can someone recommend an online > music retailer where I can get the widest range of stuff, from the Dylan > Bootleg Series #5 to Eyvind Kang's "Live Low to the Earth in the Iron Age"? > CD Universe has a lot of my list, but not all of it. (They don't have the > Kang set or anything on Okkadisk, for instance.) I don't think so, and if there were, you wouldn't save any money. For zorn-listy stuff, use Verge first. For more mainstream stuff, go to alldirect.com first (atm free shipping >$99 order) and playcentric.com (using a coupon code from a search engine like pricescan.com - playcentric doesn't have much, but if they do, it will be cheap with that code). I can see wanting one-stop shopping if you care more about time than money, but multiple stores will probably always be your cheapest option, and the on I use. -- Vincent Kargatis np: Rod Poole - "Kaleidescope Sunday" (156 Strings)

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