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classical orchestras
by Kris Visser 21 Dec '02

21 Dec '02

Again a question from me. but really, it's just a small one. I was thinking of buying some classical music, but as I don't buy classical music frequently, I realize that there are a lot of different renditions of the same piece by different orchestras. For example: I saw Messiaen's Quartet pour le fin de temps for really cheap. I was thinking that maybe the reason why it's cheap is because it's a performance by a bad orchestra (2nd hand instruments maybe?). To the people on this list who do listen to classical music frequently: does it matter which rendition I choose? Maybe it's different for each person. Or should I buy the earliest recorded performance of a piece? Or maybe there is an orchestra that you recommend, or disrecommend? Is there an orchestra that I can always trust on? Or should I just buy the cheapest cd? What should I do? Any help is appriciated. Kris

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top 10 for 2002
by Caleb T. Deupree 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

It takes me a year or two to find things, so not all of these were released this year. VA - Improvised Music from Japan. Perhaps this is cheating because it's so big, but what a great collection. My favorite discs are 3 (with the Yoshimitsu Ichiraku Cymbal Orchestra) and 4 (with Otomo's Blue Kite), but the whole set is amazing. Lionel Marchetti - Sirrus. Marchetti's become quite prolific with concrète and improvised releases lately. This one is an early work getting its first release, very well done. MIMEO & John Tilbury - The Hands of Caravaggio. John Tilbury's piano battling the electronic hordes. One of the best settings of an acoustic instrument in an electronic setting, and IMHO one of the best Erstwhile releases. Reinhold Friedl & Michael Vorfeld - Au défaut du silence. Bernhard Günter's trente oiseaux label released this improv album from two members of the fabulous new music ensemble Zeitkratzer, playing inside the piano and the cello. Arve Henriksen - sakuteiki. The trumpet player from Supersilent performing solo work, inspired by Japanese Shakuhachi music. Lutz Glandien - 5th Elephant. Glandien, Chris Cutler, and tuba player Michael Vogt spent a week or so in a studio but couldn't come up with anything worthwhile. Glandien returned to the material over several months and put together a superb, high energy album from the studio work, very much in keeping with Cutler's ReR aesthetic. Naked City - Live. No intro or commentary required. John Zorn - IAO. Ditto. Peter Gabriel - Up. My favorite pop album of the year. Great to see him back with new material. Janek Schaefer - Invisible Architecture #3. Live concert from a turntable whiz, layered loops from the white noise in between the tracks and other less identifiable sources. Top books: Francois Furet - Passing of an Illusion, a history of the idea of communism. Alan Furst - Night Soldiers, a fictional account covering much the same territory as Furet's history -- Caleb Deupree cdeupree(a)erinet.com

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stuff i like
by aaron chua 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

hi guys, kinda late w/ this.I'm not usually in the habit of making lists (because i can never remember what i liked, when i got them and because i change my mind all them time or never even decide if i like something). however, the zorn list and its top tens have been an important resource to me over the years so i thought i should write something,for what it's worth. so here's my list of stuff i like( i think)that i can remember. A bit more pop oriented at the moment. here goes... Top 25(?) discoveries of 2002 1. Stasis Duo live at the Planet Café in December (quiet restrained live electronic Improv(?)) 2. Kanchelis pieces performed in Melbourne the night i went(This man knows the value of restraint and never overeggs his compositions) 3. Qua live and Avocado live (laptop pop for the former and ditto plus harmonicas and guitars(?) if memory serves for the latter) 4. Sage Francis How to Write a Political Poem track from Known Unsoldiers (missed his live show but was inpired to check out his CD following positive reviews all round) 5. Harry Nilsson Pandemonium Shadow Show + Aerial Ballet (much better I think than the Aerial Pandemonium Ballet which took songs from both and reworked parts of them and hence doesnt flow as well) 6. Tom Fryers live set at the Collingwood Town Hall (solo guitar thru a Steim(?) black box) 7. The Dirt Bombs live and Ultraglide in Black fun rock& roll 8. Donny Darko 9.Alone a Spanish film I caught on TV(twice) part way through 10. Marcus Schmickler Param 11. Charlemagne Palestine 4 Manifestations of 6 elements (I cant remember when exactly I picked this up but Ill put it in my list anyway As recommended by J Abbey way back when) 12. Little Wings- CD from what I heard of the promo still waiting on my copy voice reminds me a little of Will Oldham) 13. Langley Schools Music Project CD on Basta havent even heard this all the way through 14. Dave Bermans book of poetry Actual Air and the Silver Jews the Natural Bridge 15. The Moldy Peaches Country fair Single first time I heard it made me feel all weird 16. Aesop Rocks Daylight EP 17. Autechre graf gantz(sp?) DVD 18. Themby (?) live at the Planet Café(textured electronics) 19. Stories of DJ Shadow takinit to the future yáll frm friend who attended show 20. David Foster Wallaces Brief Interviews w/Hideous Men & a Supposedly Funny Thing Ill Never Do Again 21. Albert Ayler that hat art(?) live recording in paris i think 22. Beachwood Sparks - Make the Cowboy Robots cry 23. Fuckhead - live at the What is Music Festival in Melbourne (amazing insanity) 24. Dave Eggers - a Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius 25. Bee Gees - I Started a Joke rgrds aaron __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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marilyn crispell
by brian sullivan 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

hello, does anyone have marilyn crispell kitchen concert and is anthony braxton knitting factory piano quartet any good? i don't usually like braxton but i do like marty ehrlich. brian. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Re: Best Music Gifts
by William Crump 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Okay, I started this, I guess I should tell mine. According to my wife I'm impossible to buy music for, so I guess the best gift of music I ever got was the first one: Christmas 1977 and my parents gave me my first "stereo," an all-in-one receiver, turntable and 8-track player with separate speakers. It served me well until I bought my first set of components in 1983 (of which I'm still using the Sony turntable, a PS-454). But the best music gift was not the music, but the means to play it. Coming in second was the year I gave my wife a list of composers I was interested in. She picked Morton Feldman's name out at random and gave me "For Philip Guston" (California EAR Unit, Bridge Records 4xCD) and "The Ecstasy of the Moment" (Barton Workshop, Etcetera Records 3xCD). After working my way through that much stillness, I got on a Husker Du jag that I couldn't shake for about four months... William Crump

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bird/benedetti corrx
by mwisckol＠ocregister.com 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

don't know what i was thinking -- this is the Mosaic box.... on 12/20/02 10:06 AM, mwisckol(a)ocregister.com at mwisckol(a)ocregister.com wrote: > Charlie Parker: The Dean Benedetti Recordings (Savoy) -- Way beyond my > budget in those particularly hand-to-mouth days, there was no discusion -- > only ecstatic surprise when mom sent this to me. Not the best place to > start with Bird, but for somebody who'd heard most of the available > recordings -- and had spent 5- 10 years playing many of them over and over > and over -- this was so incredible. So many things I'd never heard Bird > play before. The relaxed, straight-forward Bird after being released from > Camarillo. Then the more thrilling, stylized playing upon his return to NYC > (and H). And of course, the whole thing of Benedetti mostly just recording > Bird solos, the odd configurations that brought to this set, the various > cross-referenced scorecards, the archaeological feeling to the thing.... > > > > _______________________________________________ > zorn-list mailing list > zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list

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music gifts/Andre Williams
by Parry Gettelman 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Coincidentally, at the farmer's market yesterday, I ran into one of the guys who put on last year's (reportedly great, I couldn't afford it) Andre Williams New Year's Eve bash here in N.O. Next time I see Mario, I should ask if Mr. Williams might have any bootlegs of himself he'd care to sell.... Mostly nobody buys me CDs or records, on the Coals to Newcastle principle. But once I drove to Gainesville, FL w/ friends to see the Sam Rivers Trio on my birthday at the late, lamented Covered Dish (which, despite the restaurant-sounding name, was a former disco), and they played "Happy Birthday" for me. That was better than a record, although I wish I had a record of it.... Parry

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Re: Michiyo Yagi
by Kurt Gottschalk 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

any other koto player i've seen pales next to the one time i was fortunate enought to see her. even though such comparisons are idiotice, she is the cecil taylor of her instrument. bridges flying off the board, and she remaining in complete control, and working up a sweat. her solo disc on tzadik i highly recommend. she is also in the group hoahio with haco and (formerly) sachiko m. they have two releases, one on tzadik that has to be in my top five tzadik titles (oops, didn't mean to start a thread there). sachiko has left the group, and i believe they are continuing on as a duo. hoahio is definitely avant pop. it's songs. and it's really great. kurt _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&… http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_…

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Re: Speaking of McCartney...
by Crowmeat Bob 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

< None of us is > perfect; none of us can go our entire lives without some statement or > action that could be amplified toward our destruction. >> >What about Trent Lott? We need to be able to discern the difference between making an off-hand remark that gets blown out of proportion and saying something that reveals a deep character flaw or prejudice. With Lott, it's probably the latter. >From: Nvinokur(a)aol.com >To: jzitt(a)metatronpress.com, zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: Speaking of McCartney... >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:20:48 EST > >In a message dated 12/19/02 3:18:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, >jzitt(a)metatronpress.com writes: > ><< None of us is > perfect; none of us can go our entire lives without some statement or > action that could be amplified toward our destruction. >> >What about Trent Lott? > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&… http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_…

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OT: Everly Brothers recs?
by thesubtlebody 20 Dec '02

20 Dec '02

Could anyone recommend the best possible collection of the Everly Brothers' work? I guess earlier work is preferable, but not necessarily. I read a blindfold test with Robert Wyatt in some issue of the WIRE, and the testing writer quoted John Cale or some such person as saying that the Everlys could accomplish vocal harmonies and textures that the Theater of Eternal Music (?) was only trying for.... I dunno, that got the wood burning... sorry for the OT... -----s np: Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, EN CONCERT à PARIS, v.1 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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