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OT - SLGS
by Joe Bauman 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Brothers and Sisters of the Salt Lake Gastronomical Society -- and all those who would like to join us -- I'm going to Lamb's with some friends for lunch tomorrow. If I can get an approximate head count for our LIVER AND ONION orgy Saturday, I can warn 'em about how many to expect. That way they are not likely to run low on L&O. Pls reply to me off-list so we don't further offend those unwilling to partake of life's finer gourmet selections. jb

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Moon, Neptune, Uranus
by Joe Bauman 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Thanks for the nice report, Jim. -- Joe --- On Mon, 7/13/09, jim Gibson <jimgibson0(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: jim Gibson <jimgibson0(a)gmail.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Moon, Neptune, Uranus To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 4:24 AM Chuck, I happened to wake up a little early and remembered your heads-up about the 13th. I got out on my back porch with my little Meade at 3am. I noticed some cloud cover obscuring the moon but could tell it would clear soon. So I checked out Jupiter. I am glad I did because IO and Europa were 18” apart. Using my standard 25mm Orion Plossl that I use with the 4” Meade I could make out the dark bands. So while the sky was clearing in the area of the moon I took time to plop in one of my favorite eyepieces, the 13mm Nagler (Type 6). What a treat! The moons of Jupiter were sharp and the dark bands were quite evident. Ganaymede and Callisto were on opposite sides with IO and Europa on the Callisto side. I could see Mu Cap which led me to Neptune. When the moon came out from behind the clouds, I checked it out with the Nagler and it filled the eyepiece and gave me a black-eye (seeing wise) so I went back to the 25mm. I noticed in my software that Uranus was near the moon – about 4d 38’ 38” away. I could see something out there, but I am not sure I can say it was Uranus. It was the only star-like object near the moon that wasn’t washed out. The terminator was passing through Serenitatis with the peaks of the creator Bassel well lighted inside the terminator – cool. Also the creator Arzachel further south was just on the terminator with the peaks nicely lit and the creator floor dark with the central peak lit up like a Christmas tree standing out in contrast. I don’t really have a good place to do photo work from this new house so I am in somewhat of a quandary as what to do. If I use the back porch I can’t see the North Star. I guess I could just use the drift method without polar aligning. It is 4:30 am. Don’t know if I should go back to bed or just play. Ok. I will play some more. Cheers Jim _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Moon, Neptune, Uranus
by jim Gibson 13 Jul '09

13 Jul '09

Chuck, I happened to wake up a little early and remembered your heads-up about the 13th. I got out on my back porch with my little Meade at 3am. I noticed some cloud cover obscuring the moon but could tell it would clear soon. So I checked out Jupiter. I am glad I did because IO and Europa were 18” apart. Using my standard 25mm Orion Plossl that I use with the 4” Meade I could make out the dark bands. So while the sky was clearing in the area of the moon I took time to plop in one of my favorite eyepieces, the 13mm Nagler (Type 6). What a treat! The moons of Jupiter were sharp and the dark bands were quite evident. Ganaymede and Callisto were on opposite sides with IO and Europa on the Callisto side. I could see Mu Cap which led me to Neptune. When the moon came out from behind the clouds, I checked it out with the Nagler and it filled the eyepiece and gave me a black-eye (seeing wise) so I went back to the 25mm. I noticed in my software that Uranus was near the moon – about 4d 38’ 38” away. I could see something out there, but I am not sure I can say it was Uranus. It was the only star-like object near the moon that wasn’t washed out. The terminator was passing through Serenitatis with the peaks of the creator Bassel well lighted inside the terminator – cool. Also the creator Arzachel further south was just on the terminator with the peaks nicely lit and the creator floor dark with the central peak lit up like a Christmas tree standing out in contrast. I don’t really have a good place to do photo work from this new house so I am in somewhat of a quandary as what to do. If I use the back porch I can’t see the North Star. I guess I could just use the drift method without polar aligning. It is 4:30 am. Don’t know if I should go back to bed or just play. Ok. I will play some more. Cheers Jim

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New to the list
by Craig Smith 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

Hi, My name is Craig Smith, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. I moved to Utah (South Jordan) last December from southern California. I've been interested in astronomy for about 8 years, although I haven't been able to pursue it as much as I would like. I started off with a Celestron G-5 (8" SCT on a CG-5 mount). After a few years I got a Meade 8" LX200. A couple years later I added a William-Optics Zenithstar 80 II ED refractor on a PortaMount. I spent way more money and had way better equipment than I was deserving of. I had some wonderful nights at places such as Mt. Pinos, Yosemite, and RTMC, but sold everything a couple years ago for various reasons (except for a few filters in case anyone is interested). I got the bug again though last year, but this time got something smaller, lighter, simpler, and cheaper: Nexstar 6SE, Stellarvue F50 finder, Baader Hyperion zoom. With the forecast for a great weekend coming up I was looking for places to go and people to observe with; I met Jay on cloudynights, and he tipped me off to this group. Although I am sure I don't have near the equipment, experience, or knowledge of the people on this list, I hope I can join you for a few outings. I don't have a lot of time to pursue this hobby though so probably won't be hugely active. As far as personal info, I am married and have a couple girls, love to camp, and have a day job doing database stuff. Craig

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Jupiter and No Visible Galilean Moons Coming in September
by daniel turner 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

According to Jean Meeus Centry occurances 1600-1699 39 1700-1799 25 1800-1899 19 1900-1999 19 2000-2099 25 2100-2199 21 2200-2299 30 According to Kelly Beaty concerning last year's event http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community/skyblog/observingblog/19005984.html DT --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Kim <kimharch(a)cut.net> wrote: > From: Kim <kimharch(a)cut.net> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Jupiter and No Visible Galilean Moons Coming in September > To: "'Utah Astronomy'" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 3:51 PM > Does anyone happen to know how often > the Gallilean sattelites are > unobservable from Earth as they will be on September 2-3? > In other words, > how rare is this phenomenon? > > Thanks, > Kim > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: utah-astronomy-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy- > > bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com] > On Behalf Of erikhansen(a)TheBlueZone.net > > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 8:17 AM > > To: Utah Astronomy > > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Jupiter and No Visible > Galilean Moons Coming > in > > September > > > > >It's the end of the world as we know it.......... > and I feel fine > > > > > > > > Boy! Saturn with no rings, the Sun with no > spots and now Jupiter's > > > satellites are going away. > > > > > > Just who's running this solar system anyway?!? > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11 Jul 2009, at 07:34, Jay Eads wrote: > > > > > >> Jim's post on viewing Jupiter and my own > experience on Thursday > > >> night of watching Europa emerge from behind > Jupiter reminded me that > > >> on the night of September 2nd and 3rd, of > this year the Galilean > > >> moons will not be visible for around 2 > hours. This last occurred on > > >> May 21st, 2008. According to this > article from MSNBC: > > >> > > >> "If you miss out seeing Jupiter without > satellites, you can at least > > >> be consoled in knowing that there will be > another, much better > > >> chance less than 16 months from now, on the > night of September 2-3, > > >> 2009. That event will take place in the > middle of the night for > > >> North America, with Jupiter appearing well up > in the southern sky. > > >> And best of all, the four moons will be out > of sight for almost two > > >> hours." > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php > Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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Jupiter and No Visible Galilean Moons Coming in September
by Jay Eads 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

Jim's post on viewing Jupiter and my own experience on Thursday night of watching Europa emerge from behind Jupiter reminded me that on the night of September 2nd and 3rd, of this year the Galilean moons will not be visible for around 2 hours. This last occurred on May 21st, 2008. According to this article from MSNBC: "If you miss out seeing Jupiter without satellites, you can at least be consoled in knowing that there will be another, much better chance less than 16 months from now, on the night of September 2-3, 2009. That event will take place in the middle of the night for North America, with Jupiter appearing well up in the southern sky. And best of all, the four moons will be out of sight for almost two hours." The article mainly talks about the 2008 event and why this happens. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24667118/ I haven't looked up the actual times but it will be kinda of cool to take a peek at the giant without the four moons evident. Clear Skies (more please) to us all: Jay

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Imaging ops for LCROSS impact region 7-13 10UT
by Canopus56 12 Jul '09

12 Jul '09

Reposted from the LCROSS observation newsgroup ------------------ From: XB70man Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Local: Sun, Jul 12 2009 12:04 pm Subject: Imaging Opportunities at Impact lighting conditions Over the next few months, there are some good opportunities to image the south pole of the Moon at similar lighting and libration conditions as on Impact Day. I urge everyone with high-resolution planetary imaging capability to attempt a detailed image that can be posted on the NASA website to guide would-be imagers/videographers to the impact location. Many of the images posted on GoogleGroups had positive lighting (Moon Waxing-to-Full) which would make locationg the impact location with certainty difficult. Table is for the West Coast (San Jose, CA) - but close enough for the continental USA. Adjust times accordingly --- Date Time (PDT) % Illum. Latitude Libration (°) July 13 0:04:00am PDT -70.80 -4.89 (Tomorrow Morning!) Aug 11 00:04:00am PDT -75.02 -5.95 Aug 11 05:04:00am PDT -73.65 -6.41 Aug 12 00:04:00am PDT -65.46 -6.06 Sep 10 00:04:00am PDT -69.01 -5.37 Oct 9 04:30:00am PDT -70.81 -3.59 IMPACT! As you can see, tomorrow morning and September 10th are the closest matches for lighting conditions. A GUIDE CD-ROM screenshot of the south pole of the Moon for tomorrow morning is at: /group/lcross_observation/web/Guide%20LCROSS%2020090713%200004PST.jpg Best of luck! Rick Baldridge LCROSS Google-Groups Moderator -------------------- [P.S. by Kurt - corrected url to the guide screen shot is: http://01227941410742638900-a-g.googlegroups.com/web/Guide%20LCROSS%2020090… or http://groups.google.com/group/lcross_observation/web/Guide%20LCROSS%202009… - Kurt]

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] July 15 Special Star Party cancelled
by Joe Bauman 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

OOPS, I had the impression it was the 16th. The 18th it is! -- Joe --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] July 15 Special Star Party cancelled To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 5:52 PM It would have to be* some* star party to leave a person tired for 3 days, lol! (the luncheon is the 18th) On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > There is a silver lining: nobody who loves l&o has to miss the next day's > Salt Lake Gastronomical Society scrumptious lunch because they're too tired > from the star party. -- jb > > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] New to the list
by Joe Bauman 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

Hi and welcome, Craig. The best resource for astronomy info and help that I know of is the Salt Lake Astronomical Society. See the SLAS site on the Web and I bet you'll want to join. It's only $20 a year. The site is http://slas.us -- best wishes, Joe --- On Sat, 7/11/09, Craig Smith <hemismith(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: Craig Smith <hemismith(a)sbcglobal.net> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] New to the list To: "Utah Astronomy" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 7:01 PM Hi, My name is Craig Smith, I just joined the list and thought I'd introduce myself. I moved to Utah (South Jordan) last December from southern California. I've been interested in astronomy for about 8 years, although I haven't been able to pursue it as much as I would like. I started off with a Celestron G-5 (8" SCT on a CG-5 mount). After a few years I got a Meade 8" LX200. A couple years later I added a William-Optics Zenithstar 80 II ED refractor on a PortaMount. I spent way more money and had way better equipment than I was deserving of. I had some wonderful nights at places such as Mt. Pinos, Yosemite, and RTMC, but sold everything a couple years ago for various reasons (except for a few filters in case anyone is interested). I got the bug again though last year, but this time got something smaller, lighter, simpler, and cheaper: Nexstar 6SE, Stellarvue F50 finder, Baader Hyperion zoom. With the forecast for a great weekend coming up I was looking for places to go and people to observe with; I met Jay on cloudynights, and he tipped me off to this group. Although I am sure I don't have near the equipment, experience, or knowledge of the people on this list, I hope I can join you for a few outings. I don't have a lot of time to pursue this hobby though so probably won't be hugely active. As far as personal info, I am married and have a couple girls, love to camp, and have a day job doing database stuff. Craig _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] July 15 Special Star Party cancelled
by Joe Bauman 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

There is a silver lining: nobody who loves l&o has to miss the next day's Salt Lake Gastronomical Society scrumptious lunch because they're too tired from the star party. -- jb --- On Sat, 7/11/09, M Wilson <astro_outwest(a)yahoo.com> wrote: From: M Wilson <astro_outwest(a)yahoo.com> Subject: [Utah-astronomy] July 15 Special Star Party cancelled To: "Utah astronomy blog" <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 3:02 PM Hey Rodger and others (Dan Filer, Dan Turner and Brent Johnson) I just saw in today's Tribune that the Asthma camp at Camp Wyatt/Wapiti in Tooele's Settlement Canyon has been closed due to fears that the kids will be unnecessarily exposed to the H1N1 Virus. Being that the July 15th Special Star Party was for these kids at this camp, you may want to check out the above link and read for yourself. http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12809728?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.slas.us/gallery2/main.php Visit the Wiki: http://www.utahastronomy.com

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