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Re: [Police] dvd I have been talking about
by foxie 27 May '04

27 May '04

sorry that i have keep those curious souls waiting. allow me to being by saying that recent DVD discussions were about 2 different DVD projects - the one that G told us about (call it the "Stewart DVD" and the one that i have been referring to. here's the info on "mine": i have a friend that works on DVD releases for universal music. i met him during my stay at sony music. in late december 2003, he contacted me, advising that he was just assigned a new project, one on the police - to make a proposal and, if the universal powers at be liked it, he could run with it, work on it to see if it would be cleared for release. knowing what a lunatic i am about the police, he asked me for my help - specifically, what would i, as a police fan, like to see on this DVD? so i told him to put something out with as much unreleased and/or hardly seen material as he could get. we went back and forth on what to get for weeks. here's a sample of some of the stuff he set after: Shea Stadium footage (it go so that he was trying to get clearance to put the entire concert on the DVD) Footage from last concert (Australia, 3/84) Footage from BPI Awards in November 1985 (the police got a Lifetime Achievement Award at this ceremony - I didn't know who (if anyone) from the band went but, if they did, it would have been the 1st time they appeared together since aforementioned Australia gig) Footage from recording of SYNCHRONICITY in Montserrat Footage from recording of tracks for EBYT: THE SINGLES i saw this DVD as two-fold: a documentary with a LET IT BE slant - assuming footage from the respective recording sessions could be had, you would see the band's final implosion. so, armed with ideas, my friend set off. universal liked it. next up was miles and, after some "negotiations", he was fine with it. but all along, i KNEW that there was something - no, more like someone - that could screw it all up. that sting would have final say over any police-related project. a few weeks ago, this project was presented to sting's management for the 1st time. again, at this point, all that the project entailed was ideas - nothing was set in stone, nothing HAD to be on the project. not every request for something had to be granted. it was just a mixed bag of things. well, to say that the sting camp was not thrilled with the project would be an understatement. it languished there. then, yesterday, my friend sent me an e-mail, and i quote: "Forgot to tell you dude, found out this morning sting has blocked the new dvd. He says no and that's that!" was i surprised? no. was i made? not really. my personal feeling is that, for the past 20 years, sting has done all he could to downplay the police for the betterment and furtherance of his solo career. there will be no reunion and no projects like this or like the Stewart DVD or like 'Derangements" (remember THAT?!!!) sting is far too busy - he has albums to make, performances with the backstreet boys and twista to do. so he will just keep busy, drown us all in himself and hope that we will, by process of police starvation, forget about the police and shift our feelings for the band to him. i think it was Brando that said "all you owe your audience is a good performance". but i say "who says you have to say in the audience?" there was a time when i held sting's solo material just as close to my heart as police material. then came BND and, well, you all know that story. SL hasn't helped. i can count on one hand how many times i have listened to it. at the speed of sound, sting has begun down that slope of mediocrity - like his pals elton john and billy joel. an creature of adult contemporary (read: safe) radio. it is very sad. he can release all the remixes, all the GH or live albums he wants, tour the world 5 times over. i could care less. at best, i am indifferent towards him now, doubtful that i will ever see him perform live again. he can continue his subversive attempts to make me forget about the police, denying whatever police-related projects he wants, trying to get all to accept HIM as SOLOIST! but i will FOREVER look at him as stewart's bass player... rich --- M <mpal1(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > what dvd did STing reject?? > > > --- foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > i gotta fly but tomorrow i will advise on what > was > > to > > have been on this dvd. > > here's a teaser: a great deal of shea footage was > > to > > be on it, perhaps the entire damn show! > > > > --- MattCo82(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Dans un e-mail daté du 25/05/2004 18:07:38 > Paris, > > > Madrid (heure d'été), > > > burgaus(a)juno.com a écrit : > > > > > > I'm disappointed in him. Stewart, as I've come > > to > > > secretly believe, does love us more. Now I > know > > > why > > > back in the day my best friend use to like him > > > best. > > > > > > Teri > > > > > > Yeah, let's make a Stewart fan club (& Andy!)... > > > Hmmm... can we do a "Sting stop being a jerk!" > > > club?! > > > Anyway, I think a good way to please police fans > > > around the world would be > > > to release The Police live at the Shea Stadium > 83! > > > That would be a real > > > treat... and I know that it has been > captured... > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > Matt from France. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Police mailing list > > > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Police mailing list > > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > ===== > "The vast majority of our imports come from outside > the country." > George W. Bush, Jr. > "I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican" > Governor George W. Bush, Jr. > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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Sting at the Hallenstadion Zuerich, May 22nd and 23rd 2004
by simca＠bluewin.ch 27 May '04

27 May '04

Concert report Sting at the Hallenstadion, Zuerich, Switzerland on May 22nd and 23rd 2004. The setlist: Intro : A Thousand Years (playback, no band) Send Your Love Inside Forget About The Future Dead Man's Rope Synchronicity II Whenever I say Your Name I Was Brought To My Senses This War Fragile Fields Of Gold Stolen Car Sacred Love Walking On The Moon Englishman in NY Roxanne Never Coming Home Encore 1 Desert Rose If I Ever Lose My Faith Every Breath You Take Encore 2 A Thousand Years Review by Simon C As you can see on the setlist, it?s exactly the same set as RAH and if you read those reviews on www.stingus.net, it?s pretty much the same, so I?m only mentioning the differences I noticed. The ?Hallenstadion? holds a capacity of nearly 12?000 people, the tickets for Sunday were going out very good, so Saturday was scheduled hoping to get 2 sold out shows. As far as i?ve seen, Saturday had about 9?000 people and Sunday was pretty much ?full house?. I needed to go to both show?s because Saturday was my birthday, and what better to have Sting singing at your birthday, isn?t it ? Unfortunately the book signing who was expected to take place on Saturday afternoon was cancelled because Sting obviously needed to take care of himself and decided to do only concerts and no other promotional stuff. Sadly, because there where a few people outside the shop waiting in the rain (including birthday-kid Simon). I?m not going to tell you a word about the supporting act, nellie mckay, I wish the people in Paris a good Tea time while she will perform ! The best thing was she only played 20 respectively 25 minutes. The show started with a fantastic instrumental intro of ?a thousand years?, before the band opened the 2 hour set with a great ?dance? version of ?send your love? and immediately everybody was standing up and dancing to the beat. ?Inside? was next a gave the first break, people wanted to dance instead of hearing a ballad. It was cool to hear this first 4 songs from the new record, i really think they sound better live than the studio versions. Synchronicity II??this is the song only diehard fans know, you can recognise Police - Fans by singing this song ! I felt like dancing and jumping, I really love this song, and Keith Carlock played it very Copelandesque ! It was a surprise and a good move to put ?fragile? in the middle of the set. ?walking on the moon? was played in the known ?jazzy? way with Brian, and ?englishman in new york? made people dance again ! Roxanne ?Mount Everest of the set? was next, a great and long version with lyrics from ?King of Pain?, ?bed?s too big without you? and ?spirits in the material world?, Dominic even played the intro of ?spirits in the material world? very shortly. All in all : Great show, Sting and the band where in a good mood, Sunday was definitely better than Saturday, there was much more energy in the band maybe due to Sting?s health. Good rearrengements of the songs, as i said - better than on the record. A few People where interviewed by radio stations, everybody was happy and saying it was a good show. So did the press too ! After having seen Sting for the 20th and 21st time, he still got it, live better than ever ! One last word on Merchandising : the obligate T-Shirt?s, official Sting CD?s, but also Dominic?s ?Shapes? (only signed copies available !) and the German Talking Book of ?Broken Music? (3 CD?s, about 220 min.)

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Rescheduled date for Birmingham gig
by Jason Sheldon 27 May '04

27 May '04

Just heard (unofficially I have to add) that the postponed Birmingham NEC gig from May 12th has been rescheduled for 23rd November..... I have a feeling I won't be able to go, as my wife will just about be ready to pop our second child... :(((((( Damn you Sting, damn you.... ;-) J.

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Re: [Police] Re: DVD
by DtmrCls＠aol.com 27 May '04

27 May '04

...and worse! > Not to > mention his own music is getting worse and worse and > worse.

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I'm a three line whip
by Anne-Jelmer Drent 27 May '04

27 May '04

Hmmm, a not so nice nameless e-mail was sent to me in reply. With some questions I would like to answer. Why I joned? Stings music once ment the world to me, even helped me in difficult times. The dream of, Nothing like, The Soul cages, remember those? Why I'm critical? Because his nowadays music is not up to the level we might aspect from Sting. The level he set! Besides, I bought every single thing Sting released. I feel that I have a right to be critical. Why I'm still on the list, I still love his albums, up to BND. I keep hoping for better releases in the future. Your loyal but critical Sting fan, Anne-Jelmer Drent p.s. Next time, make your posts out in the open and sign it with your name. -----Original Message----- From: tea_in_the_sahara [mailto:tea_in_the_sahara@yahoo.com] Sent: 26 May 2004 20:27 To: Anne-Jelmer Drent Subject: Re: [Police] dvd I have been talking about Sting and his music have become more polished, accomplished and mature, yet they remain the most interesting mainstream music and lyrics available. Your comments can only make me wonder why you would take the time to join a 'club' about someone you disdain so? --- In stingus(a)yahoogroups.com, "Anne-Jelmer Drent" <annejelmer@h...> wrote: > Well Sting has a career to defend, > the DVD release might just show a little too much how boring Sting and > his music has become. > > Well no DVD, :-( > > > about a reunion > Andy made a wonderfull album, Earth and Sky. > (If you didn't buy it, do it! It even has real drums!) > I would hate to see the a reunion in wich Andy and Stewart would get > no space to develope their music but be the mucisians to Stings boring > slik music. > > reg. Anne-Jelmer > > > > >From: Stingfan222@a... > >To: MattCo82@a..., burgaus@j..., police@m... > >Subject: Re: [Police] dvd I have been talking about > >Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:06:38 EDT > > > >How about if we all promise to stop asking him to reform the group, he > >promises to release all this stuff. That'd work for me! Does it really > >surprise any > >of you that he would block the publication of this? Never said I liked him > >as > >a person, just talent. > >Michelle in TX. > >Thank you for the info, "Official President of the DVD release club," Rich! > >_______________________________________________ > >Police mailing list > >Police@m... > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > _________________________________________________________________ > Speel games met je online vrienden via MSN Messenger > http://messenger.msn.nl/

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Re: [Police] rick
by JMUNZ 27 May '04

27 May '04

Sorry about that, it was supposed to be a response to Rick trying to trick us(like a week ago!) My outbox was messed up and didnt send it until yesterday. darn thing! Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: Stingfan222(a)aol.com To: jmunz(a)sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:17 AM Subject: Re: [Police] ick Huh? Did I miss the original post? Michelle In a message dated 5/26/04 8:01:35 PM, jmunz(a)sympatico.ca writes: You ass!!! (hahaha! You got us!!!!) We owe you one! Love Jane

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Re: [Police] dvd I have been talking about
by foxie 27 May '04

27 May '04

hee hee... --- Trini <snsv(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Rich, > > Frankly I think you are speaking out of the wrong > hole, your ass. > > There must be more to this than the simplistic > Stewart loving nonsense that you wrote below. > > You Police fans need to get a life, wake up and > realize that without Sting, the Police would have > crashed. > > To call Sting, Stewart's bass player proves you know > absolutely nothing about music. > > Peace > > T > > foxie <forfoxie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > sorry that i have keep those curious souls waiting. > allow me to being by saying that recent DVD > discussions were about 2 different DVD projects - > the > one that G told us about (call it the "Stewart DVD" > and the one that i have been referring to. here's > the > info on "mine": > i have a friend that works on DVD releases for > universal music. i met him during my stay at sony > music. in late december 2003, he contacted me, > advising that he was just assigned a new project, > one > on the police - to make a proposal and, if the > universal powers at be liked it, he could run with > it, > work on it to see if it would be cleared for > release. > knowing what a lunatic i am about the police, he > asked > me for my help - specifically, what would i, as a > police fan, like to see on this DVD? so i told him > to > put something out with as much unreleased and/or > hardly seen material as he could get. we went back > and > forth on what to get for weeks. here's a sample of > some of the stuff he set after: > > Shea Stadium footage (it go so that he was trying to > get clearance to put the entire concert on the DVD) > Footage from last concert (Australia, 3/84) > Footage from BPI Awards in November 1985 (the police > got a Lifetime Achievement Award at this ceremony - > I > didn't know who (if anyone) from the band went but, > if > they did, it would have been the 1st time they > appeared together since aforementioned Australia > gig) > Footage from recording of SYNCHRONICITY in > Montserrat > Footage from recording of tracks for EBYT: THE > SINGLES > > i saw this DVD as two-fold: a documentary with a LET > IT BE slant - assuming footage from the respective > recording sessions could be had, you would see the > band's final implosion. > > so, armed with ideas, my friend set off. universal > liked it. next up was miles and, after some > "negotiations", he was fine with it. but all along, > i > KNEW that there was something - no, more like > someone > - that could screw it all up. that sting would have > final say over any police-related project. > a few weeks ago, this project was presented to > sting's management for the 1st time. again, at this > point, all that the project entailed was ideas - > nothing was set in stone, nothing HAD to be on the > project. not every request for something had to be > granted. it was just a mixed bag of things. well, to > say that the sting camp was not thrilled with the > project would be an understatement. it languished > there. then, yesterday, my friend sent me an e-mail, > and i quote: "Forgot to tell you dude, found out > this > morning sting has blocked the new dvd. He says no > and > that's that!" > > was i surprised? no. was i made? not really. my > personal feeling is that, for the past 20 years, > sting > has done all he could to downplay the police for the > betterment and furtherance of his solo career. there > will be no reunion and no projects like this or like > the Stewart DVD or like 'Derangements" (remember > THAT?!!!) sting is far too busy - he has albums to > make, performances with the backstreet boys and > twista > to do. so he will just keep busy, drown us all in > himself and hope that we will, by process of police > starvation, forget about the police and shift our > feelings for the band to him. > i think it was Brando that said "all you owe your > audience is a good performance". but i say "who says > you have to say in the audience?" there was a time > when i held sting's solo material just as close to > my > heart as police material. then came BND and, well, > you > all know that story. SL hasn't helped. i can count > on > one hand how many times i have listened to it. at > the > speed of sound, sting has begun down that slope of > mediocrity - like his pals elton john and billy > joel. > an creature of adult contemporary (read: safe) > radio. > it is very sad. > > he can release all the remixes, all the GH or live > albums he wants, tour the world 5 times over. i > could > care less. at best, i am indifferent towards him > now, > doubtful that i will ever see him perform live > again. > he can continue his subversive attempts to make me > forget about the police, denying whatever > police-related projects he wants, trying to get all > to > accept HIM as SOLOIST! > but i will FOREVER look at him as stewart's bass > player... > > > rich > --- M wrote: > > what dvd did STing reject?? > > > > > > --- foxie wrote: > > > i gotta fly but tomorrow i will advise on what > > was > > > to > > > have been on this dvd. > > > here's a teaser: a great deal of shea footage > was > > > to > > > be on it, perhaps the entire damn show! > > > > > > --- MattCo82(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > Dans un e-mail daté du 25/05/2004 18:07:38 > > Paris, > > > > Madrid (heure d'été), > > > > burgaus(a)juno.com a écrit : > > > > > > > > I'm disappointed in him. Stewart, as I've come > > > to > > > > secretly believe, does love us more. Now I > > know > > > > why > > > > back in the day my best friend use to like him > > > > best. > > > > > > > > Teri > > > > > > > > Yeah, let's make a Stewart fan club (& > Andy!)... > > > > Hmmm... can we do a "Sting stop being a jerk!" > > > > club?! > > > > Anyway, I think a good way to please police > fans > > > > around the world would be > > > > to release The Police live at the Shea Stadium > > 83! > > > > That would be a real > > > > treat... and I know that it has been > > captured... > > > > Just my 2 cents... > > > > Matt from France. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Police mailing list > > > > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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RE: Police Digest, Vol 15, Issue 26
by Raj Manoharan 27 May '04

27 May '04

"However, the sad fact is, and really, god forbid, when he pops it, you won't have enough room in the house to store all the stuff the record company will release. Same with every artist who croaks - see how long it takes before the shelves are stocked full of 'greatest hits' (like that's the last thing we need, another Police greatest hits!), or unreleased material... Roy Orbison, Elvis, Nina Simone, Johnny Cash, George Harrison, Ian Dury, etc. etc..... Ok, ok, not all my musical taste, but it's almost like the record companies are counting their lucky (or unlucky rather) stars when someone dies... Immediate cash boost. Sad, but tell me it's not true." Well, in the case of George Harrison, it's not. He had himself begun the process of re-releasing his back catalogue, starting with All Things Must Pass. And while he was working on his last studio album, Brainwashed, he was also putting together the Dark Horse Years boxed set. It just happened that he succumbed to brain cancer while working on these last two projects. Thank God they saw the light of day. ----Original Message Follows---- From: police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Police Digest, Vol 15, Issue 26 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:45:50 -0600 Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:32:37 +0100 From: "Jason Sheldon" <jason(a)digital-solutions.co.uk> Subject: RE: R: [Police] dvd / Stewart new cd cover To: "'Timothy Enders'" <tenders(a)loyola.edu>, <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <000601c44315$2563fae0$0200a8c0@desktop> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >What does everyone else think? Does he actually "owe" the world what we want? Or is it legitamately up to him to >decide what he does? Of course it's entirely upto him what he gives us (well, ultimately the record company, but depending on his publishing rights I guess he has control over it too...) However, the sad fact is, and really, god forbid, when he pops it, you won't have enough room in the house to store all the stuff the record company will release. Same with every artist who croaks - see how long it takes before the shelves are stocked full of 'greatest hits' (like that's the last thing we need, another Police greatest hits!), or unreleased material... Roy Orbison, Elvis, Nina Simone, Johnny Cash, George Harrison, Ian Dury, etc. etc..... Ok, ok, not all my musical taste, but it's almost like the record companies are counting their lucky (or unlucky rather) stars when someone dies... Immediate cash boost. Sad, but tell me it's not true. J. _________________________________________________________________ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

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RE: [Police] dvd / Stewart new cd cover
by Raj Manoharan 26 May '04

26 May '04

"the Police in their first instore appearance with ten fans going" Andy shouldn't have a problem with this, because that's how many people attend his solo tours. ----Original Message Follows---- From: police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com Reply-To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Police Digest, Vol 15, Issue 25 Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 20:22:26 -0600 Message: 4 Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:53:30 +0200 From: "Giovanni" <giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> Subject: R: [Police] dvd / Stewart new cd cover To: <MattCo82(a)aol.com>, <burgaus(a)juno.com>, <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <LPBBIGAIAFMDFNNLJHGFGEOCHBAA.giovanni.pollastri(a)libero.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I guess we got to understand that sometimes artists are human as well; we would love to have everything they taped, everything that was filmed, everything and everything....but how many things we would not show of ourselves? When Stewart told me about the dvd, what it would contains, I would pay $$$$$ to have it, as seeing the Police in their first instore appearance with ten fans going and with the three guys in the band overexcited because it's their first signing session, I guess it's cool for all of us, but what about them? I don't know if events like this one would be the reason to give the ok or whatever, but I'm sure we see it one way, while the members of the band might have a different opinion. I will meet Sting while in Italy, I might ask him about these dvd's. How many times you see an artist that block the re-release of their album before they were famous? I've seen this with Alanis Morissette. With that, I don't want to diasgree with Teri or Matt, but it's just an opinion about why we can't have everything we would love! And about Stewart Copeland fan club??? The site I am running http://www.stewartcopeland.it is more or less something like that, or at least Stewart sees it that way; I planned a meet & greet with fans in Rome, he's completely available with stuff to be upload on the site (music and video), he takes care about autographs to be given away to fans (I always give him a pile of stuff to be signed for fans) and he reads very carefully all the messages I upload on the fans area; now I have around 150 fans from all over the world; they simply receives e-mail with Stewart updates, like the ones I sent to you. IN the coming days I will upload the cover of the new release out on May 31st! Yo! (this is the way Stewart close his e-mails....) Ciao ciao Giovanni [Giovanni] -----Messaggio originale----- Da: police-bounces+giovanni.pollastri=libero.it(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces+giovanni.pollastri=libero.it@mailman.xmission.com]Per conto di MattCo82(a)aol.com Inviato: martedì 25 maggio 2004 19.30 A: burgaus(a)juno.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Oggetto: Re: [Police] dvd I have been talking about Dans un e-mail daté du 25/05/2004 18:07:38 Paris, Madrid (heure d'été), burgaus(a)juno.com a écrit : I'm disappointed in him. Stewart, as I've come to secretly believe, does love us more. Now I know why back in the day my best friend use to like him best. Teri Yeah, let's make a Stewart fan club (& Andy!)... Hmmm... can we do a "Sting stop being a jerk!" club?! Anyway, I think a good way to please police fans around the world would be to release The Police live at the Shea Stadium 83! That would be a real treat... and I know that it has been captured... Just my 2 cents... Matt from France.

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RE: DVD release blocked
by EndoxArts! 26 May '04

26 May '04

speaking of not getting things...has anyone who signed up for the fan club premium membership received the famous CD-ROM yet? It's coming up on a year now, and no sign of it coming through my mailbox. Ed

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