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Phoenix
by omaha perez 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

I'm jealous of you for making the Vancouver shows! Anyway, I'll be attending the Phoenix show on the 18th with a buddy of mine from Chicago... anybody else on here other than Michelle and myself going? Shall we organize some kind of gathering before or after the show? And Michelle, about that Klaus Harmony article you posted... there's a Wiki page claiming Klaus Harmony to be a fictional character: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_Harmony. Here's another "news article" linking Klaus Harmony and The Police: http://www.pugbus.net/artman/publish/05127002_11_stingklaus.shtml " Sting, Police Clash over Klaus Harmony Songs  By Chip Hilton May 12, 2007, 11:14 Trudie Styler (left) and Sting. VANCOUVER, British Columbia - Sting and his band mates in The Police have clashed angrily over the presentation of a pair of Klaus Harmony songs on the band's upcoming tour, scheduled to begin here on May 28 if attorneys for band members are able to sort out their clients' differences by then. According to Police guitarist, Andy Summers, the current trouble began when members of the trio, who have been sequestered in different hotels during tour rehearsals, met via satellite hookup to select the Klaus Harmony compositions they would play on tour. Mr. Harmony, known as the "Mozart of Porn," was a pop star and, later, celebrated composer of scores for erotic films who died mysteriously in London in 1984 at the age of forty-three. "Before me and Stewart (Copeland, Police drummer) could even present our selections," said Mr. Summers, "Sting was already telling us the best way to stage the pieces he had chosen. It was 1982 all over again." To make matters worse, added Mr. Copeland, Sting informed the band that he wanted to play "his" Klaus Harmony works as solo compositions adapted for the lute, while a slide show of him and his wife Trudie Styler, engaging in tantric sex, is projected on large monitors above the stage. "I said to myself, 'Who wants to see a pair of wrinkled geesers having it off on a screen large enough to make their pores look like craters on the moon?'" said Mr. Copeland. "Besides, if Gordon (Sting's Christian first name) gets a solo, then Andy and I get one. That's right in our contracts." An attorney for one of the band members, speaking off the record, said he hoped an out-of-court settlement could be reached in time to allow the tour to begin on schedule." Omaha Omaha Perez www.omahaperez.com ______________________ Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 20:34:32 EDT From: Stingfan222(a)aol.com Subject: Re: [Police] Vancouver May 30 To: debjgee(a)earthlink.net, Stingfan222(a)aol.com Cc: police(a)mailman.xmission.com, chris(a)redrooffs.com Message-ID: <cc2.10f8aad0.33936698(a)aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" AH!!!! Nice to hear, so by Phoenix, the boys will be back!!!! Michelle ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

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Sting/Klaus Harmony
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Maybe I'm having an extremely airheaded moment, but can someone explain this one to me? What are they saying Sting did? And what are they implying w/the weird stuff Sting does? michelle in tx Sting Involved in Bogus Klaus Harmony Claim By Matthijs Schoonhoven Jun 2, 2007, 13:32 AMSTERDAM, Netherlands – A unidentified homeless man has been arrested in Los Angeles after claiming to be Klaus Harmony, the “Mozart of Porn.” Harmony, the German composer of several 1970s and ‘80s erotic film scores, including the lesser known 1977 classic, “The Ladies Man,” was thought to have been killed in a London explosion in 1984. The homeless man’s initial contact with the Klaus Harmony estate is believed to have taken place last week through the intercession of pop star Sting, who has recently worked on some Klaus Harmony material. Sources close to the Harmony estate, now owned and administered by the composer’s son, Helmut, and longstanding colleague, Jan Sink, believe that the homeless man asked for a settlement in exchange for the recording and intellectual property rights to Harmony’s oeuvre. Mr. Sink of HarmonSink Corp said little in response to the claims but was clearly skeptical. “Yeah, Sting called us last week about the guy,” he told a group of reporters outside the HarmonSink headquarters in Amsterdam. “It is true that there was no body found after the explosion (where Klaus Harmony was reportedly killed) in 1984, but I’ve seen photos of this man and I’d know Klaus anywhere. I don’t see Klaus’ love in his eyes. We can’t recognize this claim without proof, you know?” Mr. Sink would not be drawn on the details of the down-and-out’s demands, but a dramatic turn of events earlier this week gave the curious media more than it had bargained for. On Monday at 9:20 a.m. PST, a $14,000 Winnebago was reported stolen from Ray’ s Winnebago World in San Diego. Approximately two hours later the vehicle was spotted by a Los Angeles highway patrolman traveling north along Claremore Avenue. The officer attempted to flag down the Winnebago but was unsuccessful and placed a call for assistance. Despite three cars being despatched to intercept the vehicle and its thief, the police were unable to bring it to a halt and further assistance was requested. By 2:00 p.m. a total of twelve motorcycles, fifteen patrol cars, and a helicopter were engaged in the pursuit. One of the patrol cars was able to draw alongside the fleeing tramp and communicate via a loud-hailer. During the course of the exchange between Officer Louis Bergman and the homeless man, it was established that the vagabond had, through pop star, Sting, demanded a Winnebago from the Klaus Harmony estate in return for any rights in the composer’s material. “The guy was pretty sore and agitated”, explained Officer Bergman. He said he ’d been patient and couldn’t wait any longer as he needed to be in San Francisco by Wednesday morning. I tried to negotiate with him but he was adamant that he was Klaus Harmony and kept saying that ‘those Dutch b******s should be grateful’ that a Winnebago was all he wanted. He kept shouting that if they’d just given him what he asked for, none of this would be happening." Without any apparent resolution the police were forced to use “Stop Sticks” to bring the pursuit to an end. Eventually the man was dragged from the vehicle at gunpoint and arrested. A DNA test later proved the tramp to be unrelated to Helmut Harmony, and it was further established that he was not Klaus Harmony as he had claimed. However, in an interview with MTV Europe, Godfrey Gilliam, the composer’s biographer, expressed doubts about the test’s validity. “Helmut Harmony was born only a matter of weeks after Klaus had met the boy’ s mother, so I doubt the test means anything.” Mr. Gilliam’s words on the matter have led commentators to speculate that the Harmony estate may be inundated with claims from men insisting that they are Klaus Harmony, but Jan Sink appeared unconcerned. “If Klaus is alive, he’ll find me and I’ll know him,” he told reporters. Asked if he planned ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: [Police] police
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Agreed, and that's why I felt bad saying it. They've all grown musically, and I guess I have too. I do appreciate all of their solo work, some more than others, but I just wanted THEM back on at least the ONE song I was really longing to hear as the Police! Again, happy as a clam, but there's just that one nagging frustration! I'll even ignore the other "Stingified" songs, I just want "Voices" back! A positive (kinda replacement) for me.... I've been a fan of Fiction Plane for over 5 years, and if this tour sends them touring on their own like madmen, I'm totally good with that. (You believe me now, Chris O., right?) The Police can "Stingify" all the songs they want. FP definitely fills the void in my rebellious/insecurity filled lyric area! Chris, (from the earlier post) how did you like them? Saturday night's Plaza gig was the best I've ever seen from them. Miles better than what I saw Monday, but that may have everything to do w/the crowd/venue. I can't wait to see them in small venues again (easier on the wallet too!) I just downloaded the boot from TPT from the rehearsal, I can't wait to give it a listen so I can really recollect my thoughts! Michelle in tx In a message dated 6/2/07 8:38:17 PM, mathew(a)wattobay.com writes: > In listening to the aud recording of the rehersal show, I have the same > view. I think a good few of the songs have been reworked to such a point > that the defining line between solo sting and the police, is somewhat > blurred. DTSSCTM sounded somewhat 86ish, and was similar to the way Sting > played it on tour down here a number of years ago. > > But having said that I am now 20 plus years on from when I saw them in 1984 > at the Sydney and Melbourne shows, and my taste in music has grown > appreciably since then. Maybe as musicans they have grown as well! and their > arrangements are reflective of their ages and tastes. > > Cheers from down here > > -----Original Message----- > From: police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com@mailman.xmission.com]On > Behalf Of David Lucky > Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 11:15 AM > To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [Police] police > > > Michelle I thought hit the nail on the head in my o > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Fw: [Police] police
by Will Kelly 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Unfortunately I was still at school in Blighty when they were touring so have nothing to compare it against apart from Sting concerts. However I will stick my neck out and say that this will be probably be the best Police tour I have seen.!! Will Kelly ----- Original Message ---- From: David Lucky <dlucky711(a)yahoo.com> To: mathew(a)wattobay.com; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2007 9:54:27 PM Subject: Re: [Police] police Well said. I wonder what tour did you like the Police sound the best. For me I loved the Zenyatta World Tour era sound the best. And I cant expect that again. For me the Ghost Tour they had the sonsg but the horns were distracting and unecessary in my opnion. And the Synch tour got bloated with all the backing singers and each concert the same etc. Dont get me wrong, I saw the Police 4 times on that tour and loved it. But for me when listening to the live stuff..its the Zenyatta tour sounds I like the best. Just curious what others think. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mathew Hoffman <mathew(a)wattobay.com> To: David Lucky <dlucky711(a)yahoo.com>; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2007 9:35:35 PM Subject: RE: [Police] police In listening to the aud recording of the rehersal show, I have the same view. I think a good few of the songs have been reworked to such a point that the defining line between solo sting and the police, is somewhat blurred. DTSSCTM sounded somewhat 86ish, and was similar to the way Sting played it on tour down here a number of years ago. But having said that I am now 20 plus years on from when I saw them in 1984 at the Sydney and Melbourne shows, and my taste in music has grown appreciably since then. Maybe as musicans they have grown as well! and their arrangements are reflective of their ages and tastes. Cheers from down here -----Original Message----- From: police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of David Lucky Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 11:15 AM To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Police] police Michelle I thought hit the nail on the head in my opinion...a few Stingified songs which arent as good as true Police rocking numbers but we are happy to have the Police and it is still the Police. Also why no DVD or cds of concerts and no tie in with XM or Sirius for shows yet. Maybe some of that good stuff is to come?? David _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php

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Re: [Police] police
by David Lucky 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Well said. I wonder what tour did you like the Police sound the best. For me I loved the Zenyatta World Tour era sound the best. And I cant expect that again. For me the Ghost Tour they had the sonsg but the horns were distracting and unecessary in my opnion. And the Synch tour got bloated with all the backing singers and each concert the same etc. Dont get me wrong, I saw the Police 4 times on that tour and loved it. But for me when listening to the live stuff..its the Zenyatta tour sounds I like the best. Just curious what others think. ----- Original Message ---- From: Mathew Hoffman <mathew(a)wattobay.com> To: David Lucky <dlucky711(a)yahoo.com>; police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2007 9:35:35 PM Subject: RE: [Police] police In listening to the aud recording of the rehersal show, I have the same view. I think a good few of the songs have been reworked to such a point that the defining line between solo sting and the police, is somewhat blurred. DTSSCTM sounded somewhat 86ish, and was similar to the way Sting played it on tour down here a number of years ago. But having said that I am now 20 plus years on from when I saw them in 1984 at the Sydney and Melbourne shows, and my taste in music has grown appreciably since then. Maybe as musicans they have grown as well! and their arrangements are reflective of their ages and tastes. Cheers from down here -----Original Message----- From: police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces+mathew=wattobay.com@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of David Lucky Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 11:15 AM To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Police] police Michelle I thought hit the nail on the head in my opinion...a few Stingified songs which arent as good as true Police rocking numbers but we are happy to have the Police and it is still the Police. Also why no DVD or cds of concerts and no tie in with XM or Sirius for shows yet. Maybe some of that good stuff is to come?? David _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police

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police
by David Lucky 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Michelle I thought hit the nail on the head in my opinion...a few Stingified songs which arent as good as true Police rocking numbers but we are happy to have the Police and it is still the Police. Also why no DVD or cds of concerts and no tie in with XM or Sirius for shows yet. Maybe some of that good stuff is to come?? David

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Re: [Police] Vancouver May 30
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

AH!!!! Nice to hear, so by Phoenix, the boys will be back!!!! Michelle In a message dated 6/2/07 7:27:05 PM, debjgee(a)earthlink.net writes: > Aside from the few mistakes, the show on the 30th far surpassed the show on > the 28th in energy, song arrangements trueness to original Police sound. > Unlike the show on the 28th, I walked out of there thinking I had just seen the > Police as a band--not a Sting show. > > On Jun 2, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Stingfan222(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Hey Chris, > The 30th was labeled the "lame" one? I thought it was the rehearsal show. I > too, had seen them back in the 80's and am beside myself with joy having the > opportunity to see them again. Never really felt complete without that "happy > ending" for my favorite band. For myself, a few things could have made it > perfect, but that's just me. I don't like the couple of "stingified" songs, but > that's my problem. They're good, but just not the way I want them, nor want > to remember them. I should grow up and accept the fact that they've aged like > a fine wine, but I want energy, I want THE POLICE at a Police concert, not > Sting. The ONE song I wanted as is was "Voices" and it was totally ruined for > me, but I'm NOT complaining, mind you! The best band in the world is back > together and I'm going to cherish every show I manage to get to. > As far as them putting new music out... hope so, but highly doubt it. What I > WISH they would have done was had professional recordings of every show > released (including Fiction Plane) that we could purchase either on site or > order. I'd happily shell out more money I don't have just to remember that night. > Again, not complaining, I sit here with a big grin on my face!!! > Michelle in TX > > > In a message dated 6/2/07 3:15:58 PM, chris(a)redrooffs.com writes: > > > > I've been lurking here since the reunion announcement. I was on the list in > the early 1990s. > > I was at the May 30 show (the "lame" one). I last saw the Police in > Vancouver on August 31, 1983 at the Pacific Coliseum. 24 years later my memory of the > Synchronicity show is fairly good, but of course it's a long time ago. > > I may write a more complete review later, but here are a few of my > impressions and thoughts. > > Overall, although there were mistakes and a few miscues, I think the band > played better. I remember them admitting that they didn't rehearse for > the Synchronicity tour (they weren't even talking at that point), and the Vancouver > rehearsals for this tour have paid off. A related factor is that all three > have a quarter-century of additional professional experience. > > I was tempted to say that the earlier show had more energy, but I'm not > sure. There was obviously a huge buzz in '83 because when they played Vancouver > they were the biggest band in the world. This energy also carried the 1983 > performance to some extent, for both audience and Sting, Andy, and Stewart. > However, I don't think I have ever heard a crowd as loud as Vancouver the other > night after the first encore. > > I'm not one for nostalgia. Most bands I listened to when I was younger > haven't aged well for me. I listen mostly to new music; there's a lot of great > stuff. However, when the reunion tour was announced I dutifully put Message In A > Box on my iPod. Most of the stuff still sounds pretty fresh (although aside > from the first three tracks, Ghost now sounds muddy to me). That's more than > you can say about a lot of bands of the era. But there's something still > vital to this music for me. Maybe it's the one band that really means something > to me still. > > So I appreciated hearing "The Bed's Too Big," enjoyed "Every Little Thing," > the new "Moon" bass line, and so on. I had a great time. Even "Wrapped Around > Your Finger" (the verse, at least) seemed more "Police" to me than it did in > the summer of 1983. Unfortunately they didn't play any of my Synchronicity > favourites (Synchronicity I, O My God, Tea in the Sahara). Andy Summers had > several problems with his guitar; I thought it was often mixed too low. > > I am tempted to say that the real test will be whether any new material is > produced, and if so what it's like. They set the bar pretty high in their > earlier career. I think they had an impact partly because they did five albums in > six years. Can they do it again? As players, sure. The question is whether > Sting can write any decent songs appropriate to > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Re: [Police] Vancouver May 30
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 03 Jun '07

03 Jun '07

Hey Chris, The 30th was labeled the "lame" one? I thought it was the rehearsal show. I too, had seen them back in the 80's and am beside myself with joy having the opportunity to see them again. Never really felt complete without that "happy ending" for my favorite band. For myself, a few things could have made it perfect, but that's just me. I don't like the couple of "stingified" songs, but that's my problem. They're good, but just not the way I want them, nor want to remember them. I should grow up and accept the fact that they've aged like a fine wine, but I want energy, I want THE POLICE at a Police concert, not Sting. The ONE song I wanted as is was "Voices" and it was totally ruined for me, but I'm NOT complaining, mind you! The best band in the world is back together and I'm going to cherish every show I manage to get to. As far as them putting new music out... hope so, but highly doubt it. What I WISH they would have done was had professional recordings of every show released (including Fiction Plane) that we could purchase either on site or order. I'd happily shell out more money I don't have just to remember that night. Again, not complaining, I sit here with a big grin on my face!!! Michelle in TX In a message dated 6/2/07 3:15:58 PM, chris(a)redrooffs.com writes: > I've been lurking here since the reunion announcement. I was on the list in > the early 1990s. > > I was at the May 30 show (the "lame" one). I last saw the Police in > Vancouver on August 31, 1983 at the Pacific Coliseum. 24 years later my memory of the > Synchronicity show is fairly good, but of course it's a long time ago. > > I may write a more complete review later, but here are a few of my > impressions and thoughts. > > Overall, although there were mistakes and a few miscues, I think the band > played better. I remember them admitting that they didn't rehearse for > the Synchronicity tour (they weren't even talking at that point), and the Vancouver > rehearsals for this tour have paid off. A related factor is that all three > have a quarter-century of additional professional experience. > > I was tempted to say that the earlier show had more energy, but I'm not > sure. There was obviously a huge buzz in '83 because when they played Vancouver > they were the biggest band in the world. This energy also carried the 1983 > performance to some extent, for both audience and Sting, Andy, and Stewart. > However, I don't think I have ever heard a crowd as loud as Vancouver the other > night after the first encore. > > I'm not one for nostalgia. Most bands I listened to when I was younger > haven't aged well for me. I listen mostly to new music; there's a lot of great > stuff. However, when the reunion tour was announced I dutifully put Message In A > Box on my iPod. Most of the stuff still sounds pretty fresh (although aside > from the first three tracks, Ghost now sounds muddy to me). That's more than > you can say about a lot of bands of the era. But there's something still > vital to this music for me. Maybe it's the one band that really means something > to me still. > > So I appreciated hearing "The Bed's Too Big," enjoyed "Every Little Thing," > the new "Moon" bass line, and so on. I had a great time. Even "Wrapped Around > Your Finger" (the verse, at least) seemed more "Police" to me than it did in > the summer of 1983. Unfortunately they didn't play any of my Synchronicity > favourites (Synchronicity I, O My God, Tea in the Sahara). Andy Summers had > several problems with his guitar; I thought it was often mixed too low. > > I am tempted to say that the real test will be whether any new material is > produced, and if so what it's like. They set the bar pretty high in their > earlier career. I think they had an impact partly because they did five albums in > six years. Can they do it again? As players, sure. The question is whether > Sting can write any decent songs appropriate to the group. I followed him > closely for his first three solo albums, thought Tales was a holding pattern, and > it deteriorated from there to the point at which I didn't even buy the last > (pre-lute) one. > > The crowd clearly love all three of them; this really struck me and it must > have struck Sting, as well. A huge roar erupted when he sang "welcome to the > Stewart Copeland show." The Police is almost a supergroup. > > I'm glad they're back. But I want new material. Better do it quickly; Andy > is 64 years old. > > > Chris > = > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Photo album from Vancouver
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

Here's the link: http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s125/policetour/ I think you should be able to snag whatever photos you want, but if not, let me know which ones you want and I can email them to you separately. I did a "subgroup" of the whisky photos, and if it's OK, with Holly, I'd like to pull the Fiction Plane ones out and keep them in their own album as well. I haven't finished loading mine in (still have concert shots to get in there) but there are so many better ones out there, I'm thinking I don't want to bore you! Michelle in tx ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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by dtmrcls＠aol.com 02 Jun '07

02 Jun '07

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