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Dietmar's message
by csloan 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

You know, everyone is being nasty to Dietmar about his opinon of Andy's playing. He has as much right as anyone to voice his opinion on this list, and as he is a genuine Police fan and seems to have some idea of what he is talking about, perhaps we should take his opinion seriously and consider just what it is in Andy's playing that invites Dietmar to say something like he did. We don't have to agree, or even admit that what Dietmar said has value, but the holier-than-thou attitude of some people responding to his message is irritating and not constructive. Giovanni had a good response, outlining why he thought Dietmer was wrong, but some people seem to be feigning pity for poor Dietmar and his misguided ways. --Courtney

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And another thing...
by jrthrmn＠netscape.net 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

I just wanted to say how much I enjoy this little list, all the members here are always so cheerful and polite and informative, and when there are disagreements, they have never degenerated into non productive destructiveness. I get info here I would never be able to get anywhere else, so please, keep it coming! And I will too. :) -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

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RE: Not off topic at all!
by jrthrmn＠netscape.net 07 Feb '02

07 Feb '02

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Re: [Police] And another thing...
by Anne Robinson 06 Feb '02

06 Feb '02

I'm guessing that you are new to the list ! : -) jrthrmn(a)netscape.net (Jill Rutherford) To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent by: cc: police-admin(a)mailman.xm Subject: [Police] And another thing... ission.com 02/06/2002 08:50 PM I just wanted to say how much I enjoy this little list, all the members here are always so cheerful and polite and informative, and when there are disagreements, they have never degenerated into non productive destructiveness. I get info here I would never be able to get anywhere else, so please, keep it coming! And I will too. :) -- __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police

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Sting on TV
by Jill Rutherford 06 Feb '02

06 Feb '02

Here is a web site you may not know about - www.musicstation.com - if you type 'Sting' under ROCKONTV, on the home page, you will get a list of all TV appearances for today and the week ahead. It's all channels, not just MTV or VH1. Rock On!

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To Giovanni
by Kinetic Kid 06 Feb '02

06 Feb '02

Sorry to use the list for this! Hi Giovanni, Thanks for the last reply on Andy. I would love to exchange some stuff if you are interested. See you later! Kinetic Kid __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Santa's boyfriend.. Help!
by Kinetic Kid 06 Feb '02

06 Feb '02

Hello everyone, Just wanted to know if anybody would make me a copy or give me an ftp site where i can get all the songs from Santa's boyfriend. It sucks when you live in place where you can't buy the CD. I'd love to contribute on their sales but none of their songs are available here in Montreal. Thanks ... I really apreciate any help on this! :) Kinetic Kid __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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Good Morning America
by Fred Berthelot 05 Feb '02

05 Feb '02

Did anyone else catch Sting on Good Morning America? It was the usual banter. The host congratulated him on his Golden Globe and said he was guarantied an Oscar nomination, but Sting said nothing's for certain. He talked about the Olympics "It's gonna be the Salt Lake City symphony orchestra, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, Yo-Yo Ma on cello, and little old me!" The host said "Meanwhile, THEY're all saying 'We're playing with Sting!!!'" He then played a beautiful rendition of Until - just him and his guitar...

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MP3: Chris Botti & Friends
by Fred Berthelot 05 Feb '02

05 Feb '02

You can now download two great versions of In The Wee Small Hours and Moon Over Bourbon Street (both featuring Sting on vocals) and Chris' funky first single Streets Ahead, all taken from Chris' excellent Direct TV special "Chris Botti & Friends." (incidentally, the second single from Chris' new album Night Sessions is the Sting song All Would Envy). Before you download, please vote for Chris (if you haven't already done so) for the National Smooth Jazz Awards in the Brass Performer of the Year category: http://www.nationalsmoothjazzawards.com/votingbooth_temp.cfm Once you've voted, you can find the tracks on www.homestead.com/turningleaf Enjoy! Fred

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Re: Police digest, Vol 1 #97 - 4 msgs
by Stephen S. Sayad 05 Feb '02

05 Feb '02

Re: What If? The salient point being missed here is not simply Sting's abilities as a musician and vocalist, but his utter brillance as a writer/composer. I doubt that ever would have gone unnoticed on a grand scale. Perhaps The Soul Cages would have been a book of poetry had he hung up the musical aspect of his talents, but it surely would have been a significant contribution in that venue. There may be rivals as singers [not in my mind] and bassists, but not in composition. Stephen S. Sayad ----- Original Message ----- From: <police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 5:28 AM Subject: Police digest, Vol 1 #97 - 4 msgs > Send Police mailing list submissions to > police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > police-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > police-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Police digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. I don't mean to be Agressive (Andy summers) (Efrain Valles) > 2. RE: 3" Japanese singles (TONI CARBO) > 3. Re: What do you think... (Stingfan222(a)aol.com) > 4. RE: What do you think... (discoduck) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 05:39:01 -0800 (PST) > From: Efrain Valles <Efrain(a)everclearfanatic.com> > To: DtmrCls(a)aol.com, police(a)xmission.com > Reply-To: Efrain(a)everclearfanatic.com > Subject: [Police] I don't mean to be Agressive (Andy summers) > > > > I think I understand What you are saying. about andy making "mistake= > s"... and I understand much of what you say... I guess If you are a guitar = > player (like myself) I think you would know some of the things that go on. = > while you are playing.. but first let me birng you a cool note.... > > I check one of my old Magazines (GUITAR WORLD FEBRUARY 2000) and I s= > ay a short note on INCUBUS guitar player Mike Einzinger... and the guy did = > nothing but mention that his work on Incubus previous album "STELLAR" was v= > ery much like ANDY SUMMERS . in the sence that it was Full of delay and Ech= > oes... and full of atmosphere... > > I MEAN THE GUITAR PLAYER OF THE HIP NEW ROCK BAND INCUBUS LOVES ANDY?= > ???.... and the Article is called POLICE ACADEMY.... > > So with that little cool note I demonstrate that ANDY CAN PLAY.... = > KNOW WAHT KIND OF MUSIC DOES HE PLAY.... He is a fusion guitar player... he= > incorporates JAZZ/Rock (old school rock like 50=B4s rock) african beats, e= > tc... > > He is not an perfect player I know... but he is just about the best= > line player there is... he can play a scale to fit a chord... he can be fl= > exible enough to mix (a please do try to get my metaphore) Milk with lemon = > and still make it taste sweet and sour... that's Andy summers... If you wan= > ted to see "robot-perfect" guitar players You might want to check out JOE S= > ATRIANI or STEVE VAI or better the robot it self BUCKETHEAD (Tht buckethead= > is Nuts)... they are all great players and they won't miss a note they won= > 't be out of tune... great solos... I admire them I play "summer song" or "= > snatch boogie" in my car and I just Hit the pedal... and I feel like I have= > a ferrari... but andy summers is like listening to a MORE SOULFUL KIND OF = > STUFF.. AND I INVITE YOU TO LISTEN TO ANDY's "A PIECE OF TIME" (a great son= > g to demonstrate the Milk and Lemon metaphore)...=20 > > to wrap this long and ridiculous email.. I have to say that Andy sum= > mers does Improv 98% of his live shows... so what you saw maybe was andy ju= > st chillin' and having a nice time and NOT WORKING :)... and besides who wa= > nts to listen to something that sounds exactly the same as the album... If = > andy made a mistake.. well at least you know he is playing NOT LIKE N'SYNC = > or BRITNEY SPEARS... ROLL PLAYBACKkkkkkk... > > On last note... watch The Hot Licks Viedo on Andy Summers and Then We= > Talk... > > I didn't mean to sound Agressive But I have to fen= > d for My IDOL... LIKE I WOULD... > > > _____________________________________________________________ > FREE E-mail for Everclear Fans---> http://www.everclearonline.com/freemail.= > html > FREE Downloads, Chats and Official Everclear News at the Official Everclear= > Website---> http://www.everclearonline.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "TONI CARBO" <tonicarbo(a)teleline.es> > To: "Juan Manuel Santiago" <asvaro.3079(a)cajarural.com>, > "Sting" <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: RE: [Police] 3" Japanese singles > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 18:41:37 +0100 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1ACE2.6944FDC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > There also the promo copies of all of these cds, including the other = > ones mentioned by my good friend Darren from England!!. > > Best > > > TONI CARBO > P.O.BOX 14282 > 08080 BARCELONA > CATALONIA > SPAIN > TONICARBO(a)TELELINE.ES > TONICARBO(a)teleline.es > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Juan Manuel Santiago=20 > To: Sting=20 > Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 10:08 AM > Subject: [Police] 3" Japanese singles > > > Hi everybody: I've just received a couple of Japanese 3" CD singles = > into long snappacks and I must admit they're fantastic. So I'd like to = > know how many of this items there're. I've seen many websites looking = > for the information (of course Fabien's Out of Print and Tom Rose's = > website) and I've found at the moment the following items (although I = > don't have them all): > =20 > -Englishman in NY. > -Fragile. > -They dance alone. > -All this time. > -Why should I cry for you? > -It's probably me. > -If I ever lose my faith in you. > -Fields of Gold. > -Nothing'bout me. > -Demolition man. > -When we dance. > -This cowboy song. > -Let your soul be your pilot. > =20 > I'd appreciate information about where can I get this items (apart = > from EBAY) and if there're more items not listed above.=20 > Thanks. > Juanma. > =20 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1ACE2.6944FDC0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" = > http-equiv=3DContent-Type> > <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3DGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There also the promo copies of all of = > these cds,=20 > including the other ones mentioned by my good friend Darren from=20 > England!!.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best</FONT></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>TONI CARBO<BR>P.O.BOX 14282<BR>08080 = > BARCELONA<BR>CATALONIA<BR>SPAIN<BR><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:TONICARBO@TELELINE.ES">TONICARBO(a)TELELINE.ES</A><BR><A=20 > href=3D"mailto:TONICARBO@teleline.es">TONICARBO(a)teleline.es</A></DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE=20 > style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = > 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> > <DIV=20 > style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = > black"><B>From:</B>=20 > <A href=3D"mailto:asvaro.3079@cajarural.com"=20 > title=3Dasvaro.3079(a)cajarural.com>Juan Manuel Santiago</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 > href=3D"mailto:police@mailman.xmission.com"=20 > title=3Dpolice(a)mailman.xmission.com>Sting</A> </DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 03, 2002 = > 10:08=20 > AM</DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Police] 3" Japanese=20 > singles</DIV> > <DIV><BR></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi everybody: I've just received a couple of = > Japanese 3" CD=20 > singles into long snappacks and I must admit they're = > fantastic. So=20 > I'd like to know how many of this items there're. I've seen many = > websites=20 > looking for the information (of course Fabien's Out of Print and Tom = > Rose's=20 > website) and I've found at the moment the following items (although I = > don't=20 > have them all):</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Englishman in NY.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Fragile.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-They dance alone.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-All this time.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Why should I cry for you?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-It's probably me.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-If I ever lose my faith in you.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Fields of Gold.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Nothing'bout me.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Demolition man.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-When we dance.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-This cowboy song.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-Let your soul be your pilot.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'd appreciate information about where can I get = > this items=20 > (apart from EBAY) and if there're more items not listed above. = > </FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Juanma.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> > > ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C1ACE2.6944FDC0-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: Stingfan222(a)aol.com > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:23:28 EST > Subject: Re: [Police] What do you think... > To: SOMEDUDE20(a)aol.com, police(a)xmission.com > > You know, there are so many factors that play into this besides his obvious > talent. If he had not been with the Police, maybe he would still be married > to Frances, he may have been perfectly happy doing the nightclub thing and > being a family man. Maybe Trudie has been a driving force with his solo work > ... there are so many what ifs. > > Speaking of Trudie, I just watched Fair Game which she starred in. Bizarre > little flick, but kind of fun to see something she's done besides the > Grotesque with the Stingmeister. > > Back to the "what ifs." While he has his own distinct voice and compositional > talent, would he have been "discovered"? Did the Police (and the adoration > that came with it) negate that shyness and give him the thirst for more > adoration? If I hadn't have been taken by the Police decades ago, would I be > as avid a Sting fan if he were to come into my life as a soloist in 1979? > Probably not. As a young teenager I needed the Police, not a soloist playing > fairly mellow songs. If he had achieved the same amount of fame, I'm sure his > fan base would be a good 15 years older on the average! Just my thoughts. > I'll do anything to avoid football today! Is that sacrilegious of me being in > Massachusetts and having no interest in the Superbowl besides U2 at half-time? > > Michelle > > > > In a message dated 2/2/02 8:01:26 PM, SOMEDUDE20(a)aol.com writes: > > >article a few years ago where Stew said that Andy should have gotten credit > > > >for his riff in "Every Breath" but in the end it was Sting. SO, would Sting > > > >be as famous, and what would his songs have (had) sounded like without > >the > >Police. Food for thought. PS in Wild Thing Ian said that Sting was very > >shy, > >would he have beaten that without the Police? > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 14:08:16 -0800 > From: discoduck <discoduck(a)shaw.ca> > Subject: RE: [Police] What do you think... > To: Claudio De Marco <cdemarco(a)sion.com>, police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > I agree. Sting's talent could have very well gone on unrecognised if it > wasn't for the Police. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other artists > out there that possibly may even be better than Sting, but we'll NEVER ever > know that they even existed. > > > Ross > -----Original Message----- > From: police-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:police-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Claudio De Marco > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:00 PM > To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: [Police] What do you think... > > > I have to say, that The Police as a band, helped Sting a lot. I don't think > he would have been that famous now without Stewart, who "picked up" Sting in > a bar playing bass... > Stewart deserves a lot more of respect from Sting, and he owes to the fans a > Police Goodbye Show! We know for sure that Stew and Andy are ready for the > tour. > > Claudio De Marco > cdemarco(a)sion.com > claudiodmn(a)yahoo.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SOMEDUDE20(a)aol.com> > To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:00 PM > Subject: [Police] What do you think... > > > > Since the list has been slow for the last few weeks, except for the Andy > > thing; I have been reading Wild Thing and it has made me of this question. > If > > Sting had not joined the Police, would he still have become famous. I love > > most of Stings solo albums and he is very talented, but would he be as big > as > > he is now without the Police. When the Police began, punk was in, however, > > much of Stings solo stuff is far from that. He doesn't really do songs > today > > that sound like the Police (except for the drumming) If Sting did get > singed > > as a solo artist back in the 70's, what would have his songs sounded like? > > There is no doubt that Stew and Andy help Sting get his sound. I read an > > article a few years ago where Stew said that Andy should have gotten > credit > > for his riff in "Every Breath" but in the end it was Sting. SO, would > Sting > > be as famous, and what would his songs have (had) sounded like without the > > Police. Food for thought. PS in Wild Thing Ian said that Sting was very > shy, > > would he have beaten that without the Police? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Police mailing list > > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > > > End of Police Digest

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