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new orb perspective
by john bennett 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

thought id post this for the other orbsters out there that ever find themselves stuck in on a satuarday night like me tonight and have nothing much to do! its just a bit of fun , a way listen to your orb recordings from another angle as it were - try phase canceling a stereo signal (my favorite audio effect)- any orb record will do - and youll find loads of intresting sounds hidden away in the background , for those interested in sampling - on certain tracks,individual sounds are seperated and you can nik them for your own music - im listening to fluffy clouds at the mome and the guitar is left on its own with a very slight amount of hi hat,everything else is removed- cool ay!! 2 ways to do it - both work very well - expensive way (easy way) some mixers have the option of phase reversing --pan both left and right of a stereo recording to one side,or centre (just aslong as they are at the same position)and flip the phase on either left or right,also make sure both levels on left and right are coming in at the exact same level ! you can add a slight reverb to make it sound more spacious ! a cheaper way : (but a little tricky) is to get your twin phono cable from the back of your cd player-> amp - cut it in half(arrg i hear you cry) - cut back the 'black' outer plasic from both the ends so you have a white(left) ,red(right) and eath (copper wire) -then cut back the plastic from the red and white cables on both ends -connect (by twisting the wires) the red of the cd end to the earth of the amp end, and the white of the cd end to the white(or red ) of the amp end as below : ___________white--------------white LEFT phono-------------------earth amplfier cd ___________red---------------- earth RIGHT phono------------------ earth this setup will make the signal come out of one speaker but its a mono signal anyway!(you can twist both the red an white on the amp end so it comes out both speakers) youll hear stuff you never knew was there ! for those that dont know its called phase cancelation it takes away (cancels) all that is pan'd in the middle of the mix-(when both left and right are at the same level) ie bass - drums vocals! - which are normaly paned central for example in molten love it totaly takes away the the filterd bongo drum (exept for the delay fx here n there) true the best sound out of that track but your left with strings,hihat and fx not the way the engineers intended you to hear their mix but its alot of fun to try .. plus you can always twist the wires back as they were - no harm done ! happy listenin john

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RE: [Orb] Re Eminem Toxygene
by Stirling Moss 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

>-----Original Message----- >From: orb-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:orb-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Dj >Bidet >Sent: 02 January 2003 12:43 >To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: RE: [Orb] Re Eminem Toxygene >That is something I just can't figure out ... >To me when a piece of music is shit >It dont matter how loud you play it >It's still shit Most people might say that is like some kind of sad ploy >To jump on the eminem remix wagon that every other twitola is on erm, is it okay please mister bitter 'n' twisted has-been ex orb member to enjoy something that you dont? i actually like it played at any volume. >O yeah and people who contribute to destroying the >environment >Oops shite thats me ... dam must stop going to mc >donalds dont feel bad mate, after all, you have to go to work hey? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: RE: [Orb] new to list; quick question
by Dgowc1st＠aol.com 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

In a message dated 1/2/2003 8:27:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, orb-request(a)mailman.xmission.com writes: > Message: 5 > From: "Dj Bidet" <thrash(a)btclick.com> >>>SNIP<<< > Dear sir=20 > My name is Kris Weston=20 > Formerly of escapist band the orb > I have contacted your isp=20 > And will sue for the maximum penalty > This kind of copying is killing music=20 > You will be hearing from my solicitor.. > > K.Weston hi Kris Thank you for such a thoughtful and insightful view of the world in which you live. As you saw fit to make your reply to me so very public by posting it on an open forum, I will respond to your baseless accusations and idle threats publicly as well. Unfortunately, i didnt quite understand your point, would you care to expand on it so as to make it clear? Specificaly, I wonder if you acctually read the post to which you responded. How exactly is trading a recording of a radio broadcast killing the music industry? I do believe I stated quite plainly that I have bought EVERY single Orb cd that i have ever lain my eyes upon, and went on to say what an honor it was to acctually be in attendance of the Orb in concert (which, i did record, and am glad that i did. My recording of that performance prevented a magical night of positive vibrations and wonderful musical intensity from being lost for eternity to the back walls of a completely undersold, half empty, dirty music hall on the back streets of Boston) All of this equals one very important thing, Kris, and that is monetary support for the artists. If you feel that that is killing the music industry, you truly live in a delusion world. I have no idea if you are who you claim to be, nor do I care in the least. If you are in fact the person that you say you are, perhaps you ought to question the people whom tell you that my actions kill the music industry. Since you brought up the word "Industry", then there are a few easy and safe assumtions that we can bring into this dialouge. If we keep this in mind as as a strictly "buisness relationship" between one person selling a product,(the artist) and one person who purchases said product, perhaps you might ask them (those who have sold you on the notion that my actions somehow adversely affect you and the entire industry) exactly how a hard core customer who has bought all available product is doing the "retailer" (ie; artist) any harm. If we followed this chain of thought, what I have done is no more harmful than if I were buying grain (ie; all available cd releases)from a hypothetical generic retailer, and now there was no grain left to purchase. Would I be at fault or harming the retailer in any way for harvesting the seed that I have already purchased (ie, concert ticket) to grow my own grain for personal consumption?(ie, get a recording of something i have experienced firsthand) I realize that this paralell may be hard for you to grasp, Kris, but the point is valid, and if you swap the words "grain" and "seed" for "CD", i believe you might see the point more clearly. Lastly, Kris, i would say to you that i have broken no laws, committed no offences to which your "solicitor" could do anything about. If i had been caught recording any performance by an artist who did not authorize it, the most that could be done to me would be to expell me from the venue, with my recording equiptment intact. there are laws here that protect us from the confiscation of our properties, and again, where i STATED PLAINLY that I NEVER HAD NOR WOULD HAVE any intent whatsoever to sell the recording that i made, I do believe i havent crossed any copywrite infringement laws either. But go ahead, play your silly game, pretend that you can do something, make yourself feel better about being impotent. While you are there, perhaps you might wonder where all the studio outtakes that are unofficial and unauthorized have come from. You know the ones, the CD's that are acctually for sale at used record shops all over the world, the ones that acctually do harm to the artist trying to make a living. My guess is that they come from an insider, who has access to studio outtakes, alternate remixes, and soundboard recordings of concerts. Perhaps they come from the same people who have placed blinders on you and convinced you that somehow it was the fan who records the show for his own personal enjoyment so that he can relive that magical, fleeting moment again that is damaging the music industry. I would put it to you that it is not I who has caused you or anyone any harm whatsover. just a guess..... with my best regards Mike Ahern

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groovetech broadcast archives?
by Orbscure 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

hi all, has anybody been able to d/l any shows in the groovetech.com broadcast archives since the discussion earlier this month? all i get is an error message via realplayer saying that the.... "requested file is not found or the link is outdatted/inaccurate" in the meantime, i've reported this to groovetech and await their comments... cheers'n'peace... orbscureDDJ class of 89-93 - big shout tooting massive ++ Orb KDX Server - Tranquility Bass @ orbscureddj.dyndns.org ++

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Re Eminem Toxygene
by mark weston 02 Jan '03

02 Jan '03

Nice to find the tune but it definatly sounded better on the Badorb Allnighter.....Alex played it at about 5.00am we had all been drinkin and smokin for 8 hours it sounded good on the night at max volume. Have a great Christmas Everyone heres to 2003 and more live Orb Regards Mark W.

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Eminem - Without Me vs. Orb - Toxygene
by Don Gagen 01 Jan '03

01 Jan '03

I don't know if anyone else has heard this bootleg mix. I think Alex has used it in his own sets. http://www.base58.com/spec/spec_eminemenorb.mp3 "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: [Orb] 9-trk 40 Minute Mix?
by Orbscure 01 Jan '03

01 Jan '03

hi rene... thanks for the clarification :) i agree £25 is a large sum of money!! cheers'n'peace... orbscureDDJ ++ KDX Server - Tranquility Bass @ orbscureddj.dyndns.org ++ n/p - step on / happy mondays > replace "Puffin..." with "Tokyo..." and "Sissy" with "Shuttle". NY Connection > is actually the "steamroller" mix! Great mix by LX, but kinda high on price.

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right under me nose+ new years goodness to all
by Corbett De Rush 31 Dec '02

31 Dec '02

thanks rene I was going mad lookin' for ny connection when I had steamroller all along duh! Peace to all in the new year especially those in the middle east........Fuck George dubya and his war mongering ass. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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kompakt tracklisting?
by Orbscure 31 Dec '02

31 Dec '02

hi guys'n'gals not sure if this has been brought up recently, but the link below sheds some light on the tracklisting for what appears to be the Kompakt release... http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=11:58:46|AM&sql=Aol3zef5k3gfn orbscureDDJ ++ KDX Server - Tranquility Bass @ orbscureddj.dyndns.org ++ ++ Soulseek room - The Orb ++ n/p - how does it make you feel / air

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Re: [Orb] OT: online store
by Andrew Krieg 31 Dec '02

31 Dec '02

Check out www.cdconnection.com. I've used them for years. You won't ever find coupons, but their regular prices and shipping are usually way lower than Amazon is (or CDNow was). My only beef with them is that they list CD contents alphabetically, not in their order on the disc.

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