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orbisnowhere / bicycles and tricylces ?
by Joe Topjian 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

On the Back to Mine sleeve, Alex mentioned orbisnowhere, but then on theorb.com we have Bicycles and Tricycles. So was orbisnowhere just a tentative name or is it something else besides B&T? If Alex decided to print it in Back to Mine, then change the name, that must have happened fairly quicky? --- Joe Topjian email: joe(a)portsys.net web: http://terrarum.net/joe

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Orb live DVD - Lokerse Feesten Belgium
by Felix Atagong 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

The Orb website has just announced the release of a Live DVD, filmed in Belgium. On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 I wrote in a review of The Orb gig at Lokerse Feesten: "LX seemed to enjoy himself and I even caught him smiling once or twice on the huge video screen (this means someone must have a tape)!" and also: "But when LX is magnificent, he is magnificent in a gifted way and apart from my rambling in the previous paragraph this must have been the best concert I saw this year. If Badorb ever decides to issue an Orb Live 2002 they can, without doubt, take this gig." Does he read this NG or what? Reg Felix

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boycott who?
by dan the man 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

As for boycotting the Orb, consider this: Artists as people are often difficult to deal with - Picasso, Beethoven etc. Many of them are just straight-up assholes in every way. I don't know if I'd enjoy throwing back a few beers with Alex Patterson, and you know what? I don't care. It's a common but dreadful mistake to look at artists and art as one thing. This couldn't be further from the truth. Picasso was a monster to any woman that loved him, but that doesn't mean that he can't paint. And if you don't think Beethoven could throw down some tracks, then you need your head examined. Yeah, so you lost some money. Ever go to see the Orb live? I can tell you, there's never a guarantee that they'll show, especially in New York. Would I be mad if they didn't? You bet. Would I throw all my CDs out the window because of it? Hardly! The music is still top-notch. Think about it - you could've bought a whole crate of Backstreet Boys Cds, and they would've been delivered straight to your door, but you would've lost the money anyway, if you follow my logic. I'd rather waste money on the Orb than "spend" it on all the drivel floating around out there nowadays. "But it wasn't YOU they ripped off, was it?" you'd say. Well, in fact, they ripped me off to. But when the money is all gone, and I'm old and decrepit and lying on my hospital bed staring at some horrible Monet poster, just waiting to die, do you know what I'll be hearing in my head as the Morphine drip sets me off again? I'll tell you: "What were the skies like when you were young?" There's no boycotting that feeling. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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RE: [Orb] Boycott? (Re: Badorb refunds)
by JASON HICKS 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

I was never ripped off by badorb, and even if I had been I don't think boycotting an artist is a very productive idea. All LX is trying to do is make a living doing what he loves, he tried something new and it didn't work out. I for one was happy to take part in the experiment, even if it ultimately failed. Remember, "an orb is for life" Jason >From: "Mark Schieldrop" <mark(a)schieldrop.net> >Reply-To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >To: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: RE: [Orb] Boycott? (Re: Badorb refunds) >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 16:43:27 -0500 > > > > If not, I think that we should boycott the band. Think about it: If a > > friend of yours was ripping people off, would you continue to be that > > person's friend? If a business you knew was taking money from your > > friends and not providing the services or products > > advertised, would you > > continue to support it? Why is Dr. Alex any different? Why > > should we let > > the Orb take advantage of their fans and get away with it? I > > don't think > > we should. > >Good friends I stick with through thick and thin. Lovers, I am devoted. >I cannot boycott The Orb. > > >_______________________________________________ >Orb mailing list >Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Boycott?
by Alan 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

This is a tough one. Badorb was obviously horribly mismanaged. How much of that is the band's fault? Though Badorb was essentially started by the Orb how much did Alex & Co. actually have to do with it? If, in fact, Alex pulled the plug (as opposed to the simple collapse of the company) what was his involvement in satisfying outstanding debts? In this age of Enron and Haliburton... oh, wait, they're doing just fine ruling the US and about to wage war in the Iraq... Enron and Chiqita, let's say, $56 seems like small potatoes but for the average music fan that's a lot of music. (It would be a lot MORE music if cds were priced even vaguely reasonably but that's a different thread.) This problem does need to be rectified but I've just got a funny feeling that the band is minimally involved. I would suggest sending actual physical mail to the Orb's management listing your grievances and showing any receipts for unfilled orders you have. I know that's a few bucks from the US so add the postage onto the bill. E-mails are much easier to ignore than a physical piece of paper. You might ask an attorney to print the letter on their letterhead for you as well. This type of subtle hint works well (even if you have no plan of actually suing). Add the amount they'll charge you for this service to your bill. Every month send a new bill. Each time they ignore it you've added an hourly attorney fee and postage. Should get up to a felony offense pretty quickly. There must be a way to resolve this. Perhaps our friends on the little island over there could do a little footwork and find out where the responsiblity for Badorb has shifted. www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.

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[quiz] Which Alex' mix-cd is your favourite?
by marcolphus 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

You can choose from here: 1. Ambient Meditations 2 2. Auntie Aubrey's 1 3. Auntie Aubrey's 2 4. Back to Mine 5. Bless You 6. Dr. Alex Paterson's Voyage into Paradise 7. Mixmag mix-cd 8. TEXtures Pick one only!! -- == gry dodawane do czasopism ================ http://www.markolf.fr.pl == == http://members.tripod.com/markolf ======= marcolphus' discographies ==

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Orb FTP site
by Colin Williams 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

Hello, I was trying to download some mp3's from this site and it went pretty slow untill it came to a hault. I got the ftp addy in here. Kohdaw.zapto.org I'm in seattle washington and have a pretty darn fast cable connection. Where is this server located? Is there a reason for it being horribly slow?

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Re: Orb shows
by DEEJAYRENO＠aol.com 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

this is by far the most impressive list of shows id ever heard of. ive been collecting orb music for years, and i have some vinyl that could be concidered collectable but not a single live show,so obviously nothing to trade(live). please someone contact me off the list and help me get started -deejayreno(a)aol.com with "orb shows in the subject field

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RE: [Orb] Boycott? + 5.1 Mixing
by Bbbrooo＠aol.com 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

Wow, boycott the orb! - that would take a 12 step + electroshock therapy. *** Follow up question from last year: is anyone else currently mixing in 5.1? If so, could you possible share (offlist) your equipment, soundcard, software information. many thanks, cheers bbroo

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Boycott? (Re: Badorb refunds)
by Adam J Weitzman 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

> > >From: "Andrew Krieg" <krieg(a)wi.rr.com> > >I sent e-mails every 2 weeks or so. Christine hasn't replied since Jan. >15th. We've been ripped off. > > Given that the Orb have apparently ripped off more than one of your fellow Orbonauts (we can't possibly be the only two), I'd like to hear one good reason why I should continue to support this band. Apparently, Alex & co. believe that they don't have any obligations towards us, and can just blithely walk away with our money, and expect us to sit there and accept it. I'm in the US, so I can't sue them, and it's been too long since the failed orders for me to reverse the credit card charges. I'm hoping that some people on this list, who are in contact with the band, can pressure them to step up and do the right thing, and refund the money we spent in good faith on Badorb products. If not, I think that we should boycott the band. Think about it: If a friend of yours was ripping people off, would you continue to be that person's friend? If a business you knew was taking money from your friends and not providing the services or products advertised, would you continue to support it? Why is Dr. Alex any different? Why should we let the Orb take advantage of their fans and get away with it? I don't think we should. -- Adam J Weitzman - voxpop arbitrageur

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