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time for ftp info for the new people and more racism ranting
by Alan 05 Jan '04

05 Jan '04

Since there are some newbies (or is that "noobies"?) on the list could someone put up the current ftp addresses for them? I've lost all that stuff. As for the live shows, a wonderful listee has recently sent me some live shows from Brixton that I've never heard. They all sound like board takes which is very nice. I liked the '91 show a great deal. It's interesting to hear how organic those songs were and how they changed over time. Now back to the racism ranting: I've been thinking about this politically correct bullshit around "racist" remarks and I've gotta say I'm with Otto. The truth is ugly sometimes but it's not going to go away. There is a subculture in black America that involves all the stereotypes you are denying. By denying it you are turning away from it not only as a simple fact but also as the problem it is. A few months back, when it was warm and my windows were all open, two lowriders pulled over in front of my house, got out and had a conversation. If I wrote it out as fiction you people that are shouting "racist" the loudest would accuse me of it though I were quoting directly. "Now John*, if you have his baby he take care of you. But that Paul* is just out fo' some pussy. He must have five babies out there and he don't pay a cent fo' none of them!" This was a girl talking to a guy. They also talked about which of their friends were getting how much welfare, who got shot recently, who was smoking crack, how much of their income (sounded like ALL of it from the jobs they had) went into their hoopties... everything but "who my daddy is?" It was so stereotypical it was frightening. Am I a racist because I heard it? Or am I a racist for repeating it? How about seeing the crack dealers two blocks over or the crack whore three doors down? Or the two year old child that I got out of the street because his momma is too fucked up to watch him? Am I a racist for seeing this? How about the gold toothed felon in a hooptied SUV that pulled a gun on me for honking my horn at him? Am I a racist for noting he had gold teeth, a stupid fucking car, a gun, and black skin? Oh, I didn't say that, did I? But you filled his color in, didn't you? cont'd *The names were probably Leroy and G Piddy but I don't remember and I didn't want to just assume their names were "black" sounding. [dripping sarcasm]

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[Orb] time for ftp info for the new people and more racism ranting cont'd
by Alan 04 Jan '04

04 Jan '04

cont'd My house will appreciate in value for several reasons but I live in the hood. Before I lived here I lived in Savannah, Georgia (which is one big hood), and in New Orleans (where you're always at most five blocks from the hood) so I think I'm pretty well acquainted with that of which I'm speaking. Anyone who denies its existance is a fool, plain and simple. If you don't believe it I invite you to come hang out here for a few days. Go walk five blocks east of here and then come back. Do that every day. If nobody tries to sell you crack and/or kill you I'll give you a hundred bucks. It's no better in the poor, white neighborhoods but it's got a whole different flavor. I bet I could talk about the gap-toothed rednecks all day and you'd never call me a racist but the gap-toothed rednecks are a subculture just like ghetto blacks are a subculture. The gap-toothed rednecks are mostly poor, of Irish decent, inbred, and smelly. They also tend to be overweight, drive their oil burning pickup truck without a seatbelt on, smoke too much, binge drink, beat their wives, neglect their children, and forget to feed their dogs. They snort crank, shoot each other, and wreck their cars in particularly lethal and amazing ways. I've seen it. Don't deny it. They exist in droves, just like the brothers with the glocks selling rocks down the block. I guess it's easier not to see.

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Re: Re: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question
by Pete King 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Yeah....I've been looking for that Zoo Mag. stuff.... Thanks! Pete > > From: "Gary Wilkes" <vex303(a)hotmail.com> > Date: 2004/01/03 Sat PM 02:34:56 CST > To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question > > this is live and its two songs from 1997 :) > > Just thought I'd mention it :) > > Zoo Magazine CD Sampler 10 For Promotion Only > > Track 7. The Orb - Toxygene (11:31) !!! > > P 1997 Zoo Magazine/ Haarder Publishing. > > Also I have 2 tapes which i bought at glastonbury 1993 one from brixton > fridge 1991 and one of glastonbury itself from 1992 :) > > Vex. > Vex > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete King" <peter.king21(a)verizon.net> > To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" > <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 4:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question > > > > Being new to the world of THE ORB.... > > > > Is their any live cd's out there? Official or not-so-official.... > > > > Pete > > FP > > > > > > From: "Alan" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> > > > Date: 2004/01/03 Sat AM 10:00:34 CST > > > To: <Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Subject: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question > > > > > > That was some interesting ranting from the madman. Did he remove > himself > > > from the list or what? There was that whole bit with the "code" and > Kwissy > > > but I can't remember if he left the list to protect the innocent or if > he > > > was banned by the internet gods. > > > > > > I've got a question that should bring a variety of interesting lists: > > > > > > What are the top five rarest Orb or Orb related releases? I guess this > > > could include rumored but never seen releases as well. > > > > > > Also, what are the most coveted live shows (keep it a list of five) by > the > > > band? The shows from the early 90's are my favorites to listen to, for > > > sure. > > > > > > Happy New Year, everybody, even you stupid, white Americans. > > > > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > www.psychicreform.com > > > Change your mind. > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > "If you're going to have a near death experience > > > make sure you've got a really nice view." > > > --Greg Anderson > > > (New Zealand tourist commission) > > > > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Orb mailing list > > > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Orb mailing list > > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > > > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >

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Re: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question
by Pete King 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Being new to the world of THE ORB.... Is their any live cd's out there? Official or not-so-official.... Pete FP > > From: "Alan" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> > Date: 2004/01/03 Sat AM 10:00:34 CST > To: <Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question > > That was some interesting ranting from the madman. Did he remove himself > from the list or what? There was that whole bit with the "code" and Kwissy > but I can't remember if he left the list to protect the innocent or if he > was banned by the internet gods. > > I've got a question that should bring a variety of interesting lists: > > What are the top five rarest Orb or Orb related releases? I guess this > could include rumored but never seen releases as well. > > Also, what are the most coveted live shows (keep it a list of five) by the > band? The shows from the early 90's are my favorites to listen to, for > sure. > > Happy New Year, everybody, even you stupid, white Americans. > > _________________________________ > > www.psychicreform.com > Change your mind. > _________________________________ > > "If you're going to have a near death experience > make sure you've got a really nice view." > --Greg Anderson > (New Zealand tourist commission) > > _________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >

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unlearn & devolve and an actual on-topic question
by Alan 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

That was some interesting ranting from the madman. Did he remove himself from the list or what? There was that whole bit with the "code" and Kwissy but I can't remember if he left the list to protect the innocent or if he was banned by the internet gods. I've got a question that should bring a variety of interesting lists: What are the top five rarest Orb or Orb related releases? I guess this could include rumored but never seen releases as well. Also, what are the most coveted live shows (keep it a list of five) by the band? The shows from the early 90's are my favorites to listen to, for sure. Happy New Year, everybody, even you stupid, white Americans. _________________________________ www.psychicreform.com Change your mind. _________________________________ "If you're going to have a near death experience make sure you've got a really nice view." --Greg Anderson (New Zealand tourist commission) _________________________________

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Re: [Orb] Pete King <peter.king21@verizon.net>
by Pete King 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Gavin, Thank you! I appreciate it. I'll search for them....hitting Ebay now! :-) Pete > > From: Gavin Miller <orbaddict(a)yahoo.com> > Date: 2004/01/03 Sat AM 11:45:43 CST > To: What were the skies like when you were young? <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: [Orb] Pete King <peter.king21(a)verizon.net> > > There's "Live 93", a double cd on Island, > The Patterns & Textures video that came out in 91 was > a live show (which is pretty hard to find now), and > some of the videos came with a cd of the audio too, > There were about 5 bootleg cds that circulated around > 1994, and as for cdr's and cassettes, there's LOTS. > Gavin > > --- Pete King <peter.king21(a)verizon.net> wrote: > > Being new to the world of THE ORB.... > > > > Is their any live cd's out there? Official or > > not-so-official.... > > > > Pete > > FP > > > > > > From: "Alan" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> > > > Date: 2004/01/03 Sat AM 10:00:34 CST > > > To: <Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Subject: [Orb] unlearn & devolve and an actual > > on-topic question > > > > > > That was some interesting ranting from the madman. > > Did he remove himself > > > from the list or what? There was that whole bit > > with the "code" and Kwissy > > > but I can't remember if he left the list to > > protect the innocent or if he > > > was banned by the internet gods. > > > > > > I've got a question that should bring a variety of > > interesting lists: > > > > > > What are the top five rarest Orb or Orb related > > releases? I guess this > > > could include rumored but never seen releases as > > well. > > > > > > Also, what are the most coveted live shows (keep > > it a list of five) by the > > > band? The shows from the early 90's are my > > favorites to listen to, for > > > sure. > > > > > > Happy New Year, everybody, even you stupid, white > > Americans. > > > > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > www.psychicreform.com > > > Change your mind. > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > "If you're going to have a near death experience > > > make sure you've got a really nice view." > > > --Greg Anderson > > > (New Zealand tourist > > commission) > > > > > > _________________________________ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Orb mailing list > > > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Orb mailing list > > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003 > http://search.yahoo.com/top2003 > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >

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Ghettopoly; responsorial
by Matt Schleffer 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

since I started this thread and the ensuing war I would point out that everyone, that means even racist pigs, deserve the right to explain their position. If we are going to be tolerant of every one (for lack of a better phrase), you can't love all races, orientations, religions, etc then suddenly heap hate ontop of the ignorant ones. I have met dudes w/ SS and swaztika's tattood on the back of their skull and tried to listen to them... you have to listen to them in order to understand them. Listening will not make you one of them, in fact, it may give you a better understanding and... if necessary the means to defeat them.... lemme know what you think of my belief.... I'm glad we are having a good heated debate. Matt, the instigator On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. - Speed Levitch _________________________________________________________________ Check your PC for viruses with the FREE McAfee online computer scan. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Japanese rip into Thrash
by Matt Schleffer 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

who the hell wrote this on HMV.com, found it when linking to B & T info from rachel's website. "Thrash cocksville, USA 26 Apr 2003 this disc was awesome! WHOOHOOOO! I loved it. Hey, someone tell Thrash hefs missing out and that he should get his dirty and drunken ass back in the band! Do what yer mum says Thrash! " thats frickin funny Matty On really romantic nights of self, I go salsa dancing with my confusion. - Speed Levitch _________________________________________________________________ Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & Home. http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx

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Wow promo cd I've never heard of!!
by Gary Wilkes 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Just thought I'd mention it :) Zoo Magazine CD Sampler 10 For Promotion Only Track 7. The Orb - Toxygene (11:31) !!! P 1997 Zoo Magazine/ Haarder Publishing. Buy for now!! Vex. " 666 the number of the beast, hell and fire were made to be released" Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden 1982) :)

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by b broo 03 Jan '04

03 Jan '04

Learn&evolve CELEBRATES new years eve with his FRIENDS! ........the stupid "erbally relaxed" twat!....... http://www.visualimpactflowers.com/Darko.htm _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy a special introductory offer for dial-up Internet access limited time only! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

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