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Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept. Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
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Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Been following on the Orukayak with interest and watched YouTube. Been kayaking a number of years and owned a number but do not and I say again do not consider myself an expert on anything. From what I’ve watched I understand why the return to REI. My opinion is it isn’t a kayak and unsafe. Let me refer to a couple demonstrated experts. First: Audrey Sutherland who at 60 kayaked the inland passage to Alaska in an inflatable Sea Eagle kayak 20 years ago. Her kayak is still manufacture and I have one to take my 4 year old Grandson kayaking with me. I would suggest anyone read her book. Paddling North, A solo adventure Along the inside passage. I read it 10 years ago. Best part I remember is her saying her most often ask question was why she selected the Sea Eagle. Answer: it is what I had and couldn’t afford anything else. Highly recommend book. Next Webb Chiles pitchpole in Drascombe Lugger South Pacific. I’ve had one 40 years. After pitchpole boat was swamped. He tied an inflatable to Lugger and drifted two weeks to an island. Also an excellent book. Where am I going. Inflatable since I believe for safety they are the best. If flipped and righted you will have no water inside kayak. I think the easiest kayak to re-enter after a flip and a flip is almost something you have to Make happen. That stable. A swamped kayak and re-entry. It was two or three years ago in Everglade Challenge an experience kayaker flipped and had an heart attack and died trying to re-enter. Re-entering a kayak is extremely difficult. I believe what I once read best way re-entering a swamped kayak. In sure you are wearing a vest and close enough to swim to shore. After you get to shore worry about the kayak then. The Sea Eagle I have cost around $350 and has many years, think Audrey, improving the kayak and now have many different models. Other Companies have really high Teck ones with Hobie maybe the best but at over $2000 dollar. If you are thinking safety cost should be the least concern. If it is a play thing then totally different story. I’m a little confuse here with what people want a kayak for. Kayaks today are very specialized so I suggest going to a shop and sayIng; I want a kayak for this purpose. Charlie ADAMS. Charlie ADAMS Sent from my iPad
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Rusty
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Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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I posted it, because I thought for some it might be a possible dinghy that stows very compactly. IF someone's use conditions and this little kayak are a match (fairly calm waters, short distances, etc.). Caveat emptor...I'll post a report when I get to actually try one. I've paddled the original Oru. The point of it is, compact, portable, stowable, and finally, paddlable. Given those constraints, it was actually half decent as a kayak. Doesn't fit my needs, but I've paddled more than a few other types that were worse to paddle. The 30 year veteran paddler and paddling store owner I used to teach for agreed - not bad, for what it is! And for what it's suitable for. But all the folding boats are major compromise compared to hard boats. Frame and skin take-aparts can be better, but they don't go together in two or even five minutes. If one is paddling alone and does not know how to do a solo re-entry and have the gear for it and a boat with proper flotation, that's a fool on the water. If one does, and the conditions are not overwhelming, it takes two or three minutes plus some pumping out of water. Much like sailing - if the conditions are overwhelming, we shouldn't be out there anyhow. A partner rescue takes one minute, or less, when you know what to do. Don't paddle alone if there's any odds you'll capsize. Audrey Sutherland's first big paddle was north shore Moloka'i, decades before she moved to Alaska, and she did that in the cheapest Sevylor inflatable there was at the time. The one that was even flimsier than the Tahiti...she couldn't even afford a Tahiti back then. AND, before she paddled north shore Moloka'i - she SWAM it (towing a drybag)! She was a novice kayaker, but very water/ocean capable (plus it is a lot warmer there). Amazing woman...just plain amazing human. I was lucky enough to see her in person at a presentation she did on the Big Island many decades ago. Humble too, no ego, just matter of fact about her 'wild' adventures. cheers, John On 4/16/20 5:39 PM, Charlie via montgomery_boats wrote:
Been following on the Orukayak with interest and watched YouTube. Been kayaking a number of years and owned a number but do not and I say again do not consider myself an expert on anything. From what I’ve watched I understand why the return to REI. My opinion is it isn’t a kayak and unsafe.
Let me refer to a couple demonstrated experts. First: Audrey Sutherland who at 60 kayaked the inland passage to Alaska in an inflatable Sea Eagle kayak 20 years ago. Her kayak is still manufacture and I have one to take my 4 year old Grandson kayaking with me. I would suggest anyone read her book. Paddling North, A solo adventure Along the inside passage. I read it 10 years ago. Best part I remember is her saying her most often ask question was why she selected the Sea Eagle. Answer: it is what I had and couldn’t afford anything else. Highly recommend book.
Next Webb Chiles pitchpole in Drascombe Lugger South Pacific. I’ve had one 40 years. After pitchpole boat was swamped. He tied an inflatable to Lugger and drifted two weeks to an island. Also an excellent book.
Where am I going. Inflatable since I believe for safety they are the best. If flipped and righted you will have no water inside kayak. I think the easiest kayak to re-enter after a flip and a flip is almost something you have to Make happen. That stable.
A swamped kayak and re-entry. It was two or three years ago in Everglade Challenge an experience kayaker flipped and had an heart attack and died trying to re-enter. Re-entering a kayak is extremely difficult. I believe what I once read best way re-entering a swamped kayak. In sure you are wearing a vest and close enough to swim to shore. After you get to shore worry about the kayak then.
The Sea Eagle I have cost around $350 and has many years, think Audrey, improving the kayak and now have many different models. Other Companies have really high Teck ones with Hobie maybe the best but at over $2000 dollar.
If you are thinking safety cost should be the least concern. If it is a play thing then totally different story. I’m a little confuse here with what people want a kayak for. Kayaks today are very specialized so I suggest going to a shop and sayIng; I want a kayak for this purpose.
Charlie ADAMS.
Charlie ADAMS
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ct Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept.
Rusty
www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
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Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Let me add my $0.02 worth of experience to this discussion. Our first dinghy in Europe was a 9' fiberglass bot with a sail. Towed it behind our power boat from Rotterdam to Paris. Later bought a sailboat, and towed the same dinghy down the English Channel bhind our 29' newly bought sailboat. Major problem: it had a dagger board for sailing. The dagger board slot didn't have a mechanically water-tight cover. While sailing in benign conditions, hours later we had a sea anchor, and came to a total stop - sails all drawing nicely. While towing, water squirted out of the dagger board slot until the dinghy was totally awash. The fix was a gasketed cover for the dagger board with wing-nut fasteners. Then it towed happily for years on the New England coastal waters, but.... If the weather deteriorates, there is no way you can put a 9' dinghy on the deck of a 29' sailboat. I tried. So, when a neighbor had an AVON dinghy for sale, I bought it, for the usual reasons: on a passage I could roll it up and stow it down below; I could inflate it and could row it - but that was where my disenchantment with an inflatable started. The center thwart, where you sat to row, was the same diameter as the outside tubes. The rowing position was all wrong. The oars that AVON supplied were much too short to be of any practical use. It only functione with an outboard motor, but my Evinrude was a model where the high tension wire to the spark plug was out in the air. Salt water spray, immediately grounded the spark; no outboard power; - and you rowed, ... My conclusion was that inflatables only work with a _*functioning*_ salt-spray proof modern outboard motor. A mile row from downtown Newport, RI to our anchored ship in Brenton Cove, against the wind and the tide with four people on board made an instant believer out of me. The AVON was sold ASAP, and was replaced by a Dyer 7'-9" sailing dinghy. The Dyer could be rowed under all conditions; such as at 2 AM as a storm brews in New Harbor on Block Island where you had to row against the wind to set out a second anchor. (the Dyer dinghy had a gasketed cover held in place by bolts and wing nuts for the dagger board trunk) When we down-sized and bought our M15, and wanted to sail in Maine, we found that moorings were available, but all dock space was used by lobster fishermen. We had no dinghy.... That winter I built a Bolger NYMPH - light weight; rowed very well; was good for two people; and was easy to tow with the M15. What my experience says it's all a function of where you might sail; what conditions you might encounter; and does your dinghy help you solve your potential problems at 2 AM when the wind starts whistling in the shrouds. Can you row out a second anchor if needed? Can it carry your groceries and your beer supply / drinking water containers....and your Admirable, without getting her soaked by the next powerboat wake? I was very happy with the capabilities of the NYMPH; rowed it by the hour on mornings when the wind was still asleep. Connie On 4/16/2020 7:39 PM, Charlie via montgomery_boats wrote:
Been following on the Orukayak with interest and watched YouTube. Been kayaking a number of years and owned a number but do not and I say again do not consider myself an expert on anything. From what I’ve watched I understand why the return to REI. My opinion is it isn’t a kayak and unsafe.
Let me refer to a couple demonstrated experts. First: Audrey Sutherland who at 60 kayaked the inland passage to Alaska in an inflatable Sea Eagle kayak 20 years ago. Her kayak is still manufacture and I have one to take my 4 year old Grandson kayaking with me. I would suggest anyone read her book. Paddling North, A solo adventure Along the inside passage. I read it 10 years ago. Best part I remember is her saying her most often ask question was why she selected the Sea Eagle. Answer: it is what I had and couldn’t afford anything else. Highly recommend book.
Next Webb Chiles pitchpole in Drascombe Lugger South Pacific. I’ve had one 40 years. After pitchpole boat was swamped. He tied an inflatable to Lugger and drifted two weeks to an island. Also an excellent book.
Where am I going. Inflatable since I believe for safety they are the best. If flipped and righted you will have no water inside kayak. I think the easiest kayak to re-enter after a flip and a flip is almost something you have to Make happen. That stable.
A swamped kayak and re-entry. It was two or three years ago in Everglade Challenge an experience kayaker flipped and had an heart attack and died trying to re-enter. Re-entering a kayak is extremely difficult. I believe what I once read best way re-entering a swamped kayak. In sure you are wearing a vest and close enough to swim to shore. After you get to shore worry about the kayak then.
The Sea Eagle I have cost around $350 and has many years, think Audrey, improving the kayak and now have many different models. Other Companies have really high Teck ones with Hobie maybe the best but at over $2000 dollar.
If you are thinking safety cost should be the least concern. If it is a play thing then totally different story. I’m a little confuse here with what people want a kayak for. Kayaks today are very specialized so I suggest going to a shop and sayIng; I want a kayak for this purpose.
Charlie ADAMS.
Charlie ADAMS
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: ct Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept.
Rusty
www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
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Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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I posted yesterday on the Orukayak but forgot to include the most important place to search a kayak. Go to www.paddling.com where you will find anything you want to know about a kayak. I get the newsletter which is continual information. Charlie ADAMS. Sent from my iPad
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Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept.
Rusty
www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
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Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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I wanted to go with an inflatable as the tender for my M17, but most of the Tahiti/Sevylor type boats were heavy and way too bulky to store aboard. Fortunately, I stumbled over the little-known Alpackaraft. These boats, handmade in Colorado, have tough, whitewater rated tubes and floor. I went with the Caribou model. (Larger models are available) Pluses: Boat and 4-piece takedown paddle each store in bags the size of a small backpack tent Very light weight 5lb, compared to 20lb+ for cheaper inflatables Super durable. No worries dragging ashore or in/out of the cockpit Innovative & efficient "Inflation Bag", stows small enough to put in your pocket Minuses: Price - Around $800 Size - Caribou model perfect for 1. Cramped for 2, but ok for ship-to-shore trips. https://www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/ Stuck inside? Be sure to binge watch "This is Packrafting" videos at the site. Les Schuldt
On Apr 17, 2020, at 4:38 AM, Charlie via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I posted yesterday on the Orukayak but forgot to include the most important place to search a kayak. Go to www.paddling.com where you will find anything you want to know about a kayak. I get the newsletter which is continual information.
Charlie ADAMS.
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On Apr 16, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept.
Rusty
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Message: 1 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:27:12 -0700 From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Folding kaysk Message-ID: <CAFwAWQsUEv-xC2eZHZ28EAL+=14jBBOMSGhBXAotn5nWOFjRtQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:58:59 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Folding kaysk Message-ID: <67c7b8bc-3b83-8b48-4e15-79e5cafe7eb0@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak
Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery now because of the huge response he got.
Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements.
cheers, John
On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44
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