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Re: M_Boats: Electric Motor/ Gas engine
by Michael Ray Wisely 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

My 2 cents, I bought a new Tohatsu 3.5 longshaft for my Monty 17 when I owned it. It was the best investment I could have made. The mechanic I took it to for a "seasonal check up" said it they love Tohatsu's because they are the easiest to work on and very reliable. That was my take as well. Never pulled more than Twice in 5 years and with a little tiny 2 gal. tank in the aft compartment (plus some fuel stabilizer) I knew I was good to go on any occasion. At the end of the sail. I would disconnect the tank about 50 ' from the dock and let the engine run out while I put stuff away. After having boats and living aboard for many years, It was a great feeling to have the peace of mind that comes with well thought out equipment that really works…much like Monty's themselves. Electric motors trends are moving right along…but I think it will be years until price and pound for pound, they make sense for a sailor. Former Monty 17 owner…maybe future Sage owner. Michael Ray On Aug 7, 2017, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 2. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 3. Re: electric motor (casioqv(a)usermail.com) > 4. Re: electric motor (Rick Davies) > 5. Re: electric motor (Steve Trapp) > 6. Re: electric motor (Lawrence Winiarski) > 7. Re: electric motor (Thomas Buzzi) > 8. Re: electric motor (Thomas Buzzi) > 9. Re: electric motor (Rick Davies) > 10. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 11. Re: electric motor (Steve Trapp) > 12. Re: British Seagull (jslubliner(a)aol.com) > 13. Re: electric motor (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:04:19 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <7950A99B705D44F2A2237DD6952868C3@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > The 15 was designed for a short shaft,. but some complain that it cavitates > when people go fwd, and prefer the long shaft because of that. Not me! > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and >> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >> Perfect. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM >> To: 'For and abmontgomery forum >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and >> it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the >> when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. Perfect. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 >> From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: >> <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- >> z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! >> Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and not >> have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... >> >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: >> >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect >> trolling >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total >>> and >>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >>> Perfect. >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> montgomery_boats mailing list >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 >> ************************************************* >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:08:03 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <3ECFC1BC957342B1A71A0AB9686537A7@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > You're right about the weight of the battery (mine's a lot heavier than > that), but the weight can go forward and low in the boat rather than hi and > over the transom. Any weight up hi is anti ballast; down low it becomes > ballast. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and >> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >> Perfect. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM >> To: 'For and abmontgomery forum >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and >> it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the >> when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. Perfect. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 >> From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: >> <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- >> z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! >> Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and not >> have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... >> >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: >> >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect >> trolling >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total >>> and >>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >>> Perfect. >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> montgomery_boats mailing list >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 >> ************************************************* >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:30:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <1912092728.1619086.1502058656662.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 23:54:03 +0000 > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+0OvVjLk7qvEbO5mURizAd3NsFdxLujp5xtE+QQ=R5BxWQdLg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to power > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > running somewhere. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > >> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any >> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really >> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >> >> Tyler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >> >> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >> on my monty 15 >> >> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >> plus a 15 watt solar panel >> >> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs >> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling >> motor setup >> >> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >> 20" "long" >> >> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >> actually be well within the water >> >> thanks >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:12:51 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <58D9E51D629E44959B12126D2D26C773@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke > outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the boat, > have long been paid for. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any of > the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really like > my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only weighed 12 > lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 01:46:22 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>, "bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com" > <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <1593431667.804766.1502070382350(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Anyone have an example for a mount for a gas _and_ a trolling motor side-by-side? > Like an adapter to those spring-up mounts to make the mount top into a "T" ? > > > > > > From: "jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > You're right about the weight of the battery (mine's a lot heavier than > that),? but the weight can go forward and low in the boat rather than hi and > over the transom.? Any weight up hi is anti ballast; down low it becomes > ballast. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either?? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >> ? ? ? ? montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> ? ? ? ? https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> ? ? ? ? montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> ? ? ? ? montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> ? ? 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> ? ? 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >> ? ? 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" >> ? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain;? ? ? charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total and >> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >> Perfect. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >> ? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> ? ? ? ? reply-type=original >> >> Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM >> To: 'For and abmontgomery forum >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >> >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >> wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >> and >> it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total and the >> when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%.? Perfect. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 >> From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> ? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >> Message-ID: >> ? ? ? ? <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- >> z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! >> Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and not >> have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... >> >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: >> >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect >> trolling >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>> wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>> and it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total >>> and >>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >>> Perfect. >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> montgomery_boats mailing list >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 >> ************************************************* >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 21:55:27 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAV2RmVz6W-XTFgVDMtypOpNfbVtY6yoXt908Ncf+xGRvw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Yeah, Steve, I sure would hang on tight to that ole 2 hp two stroke. They > are very hard to find now a days. > Bought a 3.5 Tohatsu for my 17 and it weighs 40 pounds but it runs fine. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke >> outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the boat, >> have long been paid for. >> Steve >> M-15 # 335 >> >> -----Original Message----- From: casioqv(a)usermail.com >> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >> >> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any >> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really >> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >> >> Tyler >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmis >> sion.com> >> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >> >> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >> on my monty 15 >> >> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >> plus a 15 watt solar panel >> >> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs >> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling >> motor setup >> >> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >> 20" "long" >> >> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >> actually be well within the water >> >> thanks >> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 21:56:49 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWM5x_pviSq0ohhjk7eiQZBg-He+D-hwGpUJSGOeDDqTA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine > when they put them together. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to power >> my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be >> running somewhere. >> >> Rick >> M17 #633 >> Lynne L >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: >> >>> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any >>> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really >>> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >>> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >>> >>> Tyler >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >>> >>> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >>> on my monty 15 >>> >>> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >>> plus a 15 watt solar panel >>> >>> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs >>> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling >>> motor setup >>> >>> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >>> 20" "long" >>> >>> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >>> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >>> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >>> actually be well within the water >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:38:31 +0000 > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+0OvVjw_yO2s9E0kTQSqbYNBc3BN6XxZqU_+kuhAs4qAri_4A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine >> when they put them together. >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to >> power >>> my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be >>> running somewhere. >>> >>> Rick >>> M17 #633 >>> Lynne L >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to >> any >>>> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I >> really >>>> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >>>> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >>>> >>>> Tyler >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >>>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >>>> >>>> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >>>> on my monty 15 >>>> >>>> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >>>> plus a 15 watt solar panel >>>> >>>> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs >>>> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the >> trolling >>>> motor setup >>>> >>>> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >>>> 20" "long" >>>> >>>> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >>>> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >>>> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >>>> actually be well within the water >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 08:20:25 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <8E53B161591F4B389569803CC7431A18@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I had one of the big Seagulls on as Balboa 20- it always ran altho it took > constant fiddling. Left an oil slick wherever it went. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Davies > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 5:38 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine >> when they put them together. >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to >> power >>> my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be >>> running somewhere. >>> >>> Rick >>> M17 #633 >>> Lynne L >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to >> any >>>> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I >> really >>>> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >>>> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >>>> >>>> Tyler >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >>>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >>>> >>>> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >>>> on my monty 15 >>>> >>>> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >>>> plus a 15 watt solar panel >>>> >>>> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it >>>> weighs >>>> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the >> trolling >>>> motor setup >>>> >>>> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >>>> 20" "long" >>>> >>>> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >>>> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >>>> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >>>> actually be well within the water >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:12:51 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <7695EB4D41614BCD86AD5C48B47F9B55@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke > outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the boat, > have long been paid for. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any of > the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really like > my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only weighed 12 > lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:37:02 -0400 > From: "jslubliner(a)aol.com" <jslubliner(a)aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: British Seagull > Message-ID: <15dbdc57c36-c04-3070(a)webjas-vaa007.srv.aolmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > My M-17FD (Coyote) came to me from Jerry, through a legendary list of Arizona Sailors -with a Seagull lightweight. Those of you have not experienced this legendary opportunity need to simulate to understand: > > Imagine a very early gas lawn mower, with non-recoil starter rope. Place this in a small outhouse on a warm day and after mixing gas/oil and pouring half of it on your arm and hand, pull and rewind the starter rope 75 times. When it starts, inhale the gas/oil mixture until you can no longer see the outboard through the blue haze. Oh, for full effect, do this with your head below your knees... > > Google British Seagull Outboard for more information. There is an 8 minute video of an older British gentleman demonstrating his Seagull in a trash can. Wonderful. Missing footage of his discussion with his wife after the demo would be classic as well. Directly behind (down wind) from his demo is a full clothes line, receiving a full dose of the smoke from the gas/oil mixture. > > John in Tucson > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jerry <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 8:23 am > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > I had one of the big Seagulls on as Balboa 20- it always ran altho it took > constant fiddling. Left an oil slick wherever it went. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Davies > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 5:38 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine >> when they put them together. >> >> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to >> power >>> my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be >>> running somewhere. >>> >>> Rick >>> M17 #633 >>> Lynne L >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to >> any >>>> of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I >> really >>>> like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only >>>> weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. >>>> >>>> Tyler >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < >>>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM >>>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor >>>> >>>> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >>>> on my monty 15 >>>> >>>> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >>>> plus a 15 watt solar panel >>>> >>>> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it >>>> weighs >>>> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the >> trolling >>>> motor setup >>>> >>>> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >>>> 20" "long" >>>> >>>> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >>>> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >>>> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >>>> actually be well within the water >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:53:36 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <a03b9909-87e8-6793-4721-0b92c60dbc4c(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Suzuki's own website doesn't show a 20" shaft for their 2.5 hp, only 15". > > Oddly, onlineoutboards.com now does show a 20" shaft option for the > Suzuki 2.5 hp (didn't last time I looked some moths ago). > > But their Honda 2.3 page still also says Honda has the only 20" shaft > model in that power range. > > If Suzuki now does have a 20" shaft 2.5 hp, it's a much cheaper price > than the Honda, and similar weight. But water cooled, so more > maintenance than the air-cooled Honda. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 08/06/2017 10:09 AM, brad kurlancheek wrote: >> i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust >> on my monty 15 >> >> i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; >> plus a 15 watt solar panel >> >> lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs >> 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling >> motor setup >> >> am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the >> 20" "long" >> >> any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on >> this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just >> concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to >> actually be well within the water >> >> thanks >> >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < >> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: >> >>> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>> montgomery_boats >>> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >>> 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) >>> 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 >>> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >>> To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >>> Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and >>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >>> Perfect. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 >>> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >>> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >>> Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org >>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM >>> To: 'For and abmontgomery forum >>> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor >>> >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>> and >>> it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the >>> when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. Perfect. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 >>> From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats >>> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor >>> Message-ID: >>> <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- >>> z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! >>> Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and not >>> have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... >>> >>> On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect >>> trolling >>>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the >>>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job >>>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no >>>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line >>>> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and >>>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. >>>> Perfect. >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Subject: Digest Footer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> montgomery_boats mailing list >>> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 >>> ************************************************* >>> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4 > ************************************************

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M-15 trailer
by tom＠westtexasswimcoaching.com 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

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Anyone in or near Wichita, KS?
by John Schinnerer 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

Last minute question...I am going to be in Wichita this Friday-Monday and have Friday pretty much free. In case any Monty owners here are in the area. I see there's a reservoir to the east and one to the west, both with sailing clubs & the like. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: electric motor
by brad kurlancheek 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust on my monty 15 i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; plus a 15 watt solar panel lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling motor setup am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the 20" "long" any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to actually be well within the water thanks On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > Perfect. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! > > -----Original Message----- > From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM > To: 'For and abmontgomery forum > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > and > it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the > when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. Perfect. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 > From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > Message-ID: > <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- > z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! > Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and not > have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > Perfect. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 > ************************************************* >

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4
by AM Middleriverstudio 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

And just in case anyone is looking for 2hp Honda, when I was at Atlantic Marine Service near Yorktown VA shopping for some spare parts, they had a new 2hp in showroom and the fellow said he had several 'in the box'. Also that they would offer 'special price', presumably to clear them out. No affiliation and I don't know enough to say whether older 2 is desirable compared to 2.3! On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 2. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 3. Re: electric motor (casioqv(a)usermail.com) > 4. Re: electric motor (Rick Davies) > 5. Re: electric motor (Steve Trapp) > 6. Re: electric motor (Lawrence Winiarski) > 7. Re: electric motor (Thomas Buzzi) > 8. Re: electric motor (Thomas Buzzi) > 9. Re: electric motor (Rick Davies) > 10. Re: electric motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > 11. Re: electric motor (Steve Trapp) > 12. Re: British Seagull (jslubliner(a)aol.com) > 13. Re: electric motor (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:04:19 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <7950A99B705D44F2A2237DD6952868C3@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > The 15 was designed for a short shaft,. but some complain that it cavitates > when people go fwd, and prefer the long shaft because of that. Not me! > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > > montgomery_boats > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > > 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > > 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > Perfect. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM > > To: 'For and abmontgomery forum > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and > > it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the > > when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 > > From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: > > <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- > > z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! > > Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and > not > > have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... > > > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > > trolling > > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting > line > > > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total > > > and > > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > montgomery_boats mailing list > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 12:08:03 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <3ECFC1BC957342B1A71A0AB9686537A7@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > You're right about the weight of the battery (mine's a lot heavier than > that), but the weight can go forward and low in the boat rather than hi > and > over the transom. Any weight up hi is anti ballast; down low it becomes > ballast. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > > montgomery_boats > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > > 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > > 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > Perfect. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM > > To: 'For and abmontgomery forum > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and > > it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the > > when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 > > From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: > > <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- > > z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! > > Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and > not > > have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... > > > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > > trolling > > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > > wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting > line > > > and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total > > > and > > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > montgomery_boats mailing list > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 15:30:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <1912092728.1619086.1502058656662.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2017 23:54:03 +0000 > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+0OvVjLk7qvEbO5mURizAd3NsFdxLujp5xtE+QQ=R5BxWQdLg(a)mail.gmail. > com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to power > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > running somewhere. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > > > Tyler > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > on my monty 15 > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > > motor setup > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > > 20" "long" > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > actually be well within the water > > > > thanks > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:12:51 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <58D9E51D629E44959B12126D2D26C773@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke > outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the boat, > have long been paid for. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any of > the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really like > my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only weighed 12 > lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 01:46:22 +0000 (UTC) > From: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiarski(a)yahoo.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>, "bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com" > <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <1593431667.804766.1502070382350(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Anyone have an example for a mount for a gas _and_ a trolling motor > side-by-side? > Like an adapter to those spring-up mounts to make the mount top into a "T" > ? > > > > > > From: "jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com; For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 12:11 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > You're right about the weight of the battery (mine's a lot heavier than > that),? but the weight can go forward and low in the boat rather than hi > and > over the transom.? Any weight up hi is anti ballast; down low it becomes > ballast. > > -----Original Message----- > From: brad kurlancheek > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 10:09 AM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either?? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > >? ? ? ? montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >? ? ? ? https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > > montgomery_boats > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >? ? ? ? montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > >? ? ? ? montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > >? ? 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > >? ? 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > >? ? 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > >? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain;? ? ? charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total and > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > Perfect. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 > > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > >? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >? ? ? ? reply-type=original > > > > Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM > > To: 'For and abmontgomery forum > > Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > and > > it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total and the > > when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%.? > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 > > From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >? ? ? ? <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > > Message-ID: > >? ? ? ? <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- > > z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! > > Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and > not > > have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... > > > > On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > > > > I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > > trolling > > > motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > > > Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend.? It did the job > > > surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > > > wind.? I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > > > and it was perfect for that.? Probably ran it about a half hour total > > > and > > > the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > > > Perfect. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > montgomery_boats mailing list > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 21:55:27 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAV2RmVz6W-XTFgVDMtypOpNfbVtY6yoXt908Ncf+ > xGRvw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Yeah, Steve, I sure would hang on tight to that ole 2 hp two stroke. They > are very hard to find now a days. > Bought a 3.5 Tohatsu for my 17 and it weighs 40 pounds but it runs fine. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > > > Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke > > outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the > boat, > > have long been paid for. > > Steve > > M-15 # 335 > > > > -----Original Message----- From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > > > Tyler > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmis > > sion.com> > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > on my monty 15 > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > > motor setup > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > > 20" "long" > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > actually be well within the water > > > > thanks > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 21:56:49 -0500 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAWM5x_pviSq0ohhjk7eiQZBg-He+D- > hwGpUJSGOeDDqTA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine > when they put them together. > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to > power > > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > > running somewhere. > > > > Rick > > M17 #633 > > Lynne L > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to > any > > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I > really > > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > > > > > Tyler > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > > on my monty 15 > > > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the > trolling > > > motor setup > > > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > > > 20" "long" > > > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > > actually be well within the water > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2017 12:38:31 +0000 > From: Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: > <CA+0OvVjw_yO2s9E0kTQSqbYNBc3BN6XxZqU_+ > kuhAs4qAri_4A(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine > > when they put them together. > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to > > power > > > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > > > running somewhere. > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne L > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to > > any > > > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I > > really > > > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the > Yamaha. > > > > > > > > Tyler > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > > > on my monty 15 > > > > > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it > weighs > > > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the > > trolling > > > > motor setup > > > > > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or > the > > > > 20" "long" > > > > > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am > just > > > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > > > actually be well within the water > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 08:20:25 -0700 > From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <8E53B161591F4B389569803CC7431A18@CH002914> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > I had one of the big Seagulls on as Balboa 20- it always ran altho it took > constant fiddling. Left an oil slick wherever it went. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Davies > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 5:38 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine > > when they put them together. > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to > > power > > > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > > > running somewhere. > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne L > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to > > any > > > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I > > really > > > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the > Yamaha. > > > > > > > > Tyler > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > > > on my monty 15 > > > > > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it > > > > weighs > > > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the > > trolling > > > > motor setup > > > > > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or > the > > > > 20" "long" > > > > > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am > just > > > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > > > actually be well within the water > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2017 18:12:51 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <7695EB4D41614BCD86AD5C48B47F9B55@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Good to read that I am not the only guy hanging on to my old 2 stroke > outboard for my M-15. Ain't the latest technology, but it, like the boat, > have long been paid for. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 3:30 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to any of > the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I really like > my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only weighed 12 > lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the Yamaha. > > Tyler > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > on my monty 15 > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > motor setup > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > 20" "long" > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > actually be well within the water > > thanks > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:37:02 -0400 > From: "jslubliner(a)aol.com" <jslubliner(a)aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: British Seagull > Message-ID: <15dbdc57c36-c04-3070(a)webjas-vaa007.srv.aolmail.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > My M-17FD (Coyote) came to me from Jerry, through a legendary list of > Arizona Sailors -with a Seagull lightweight. Those of you have not > experienced this legendary opportunity need to simulate to understand: > > Imagine a very early gas lawn mower, with non-recoil starter rope. Place > this in a small outhouse on a warm day and after mixing gas/oil and pouring > half of it on your arm and hand, pull and rewind the starter rope 75 times. > When it starts, inhale the gas/oil mixture until you can no longer see the > outboard through the blue haze. Oh, for full effect, do this with your head > below your knees... > > Google British Seagull Outboard for more information. There is an 8 minute > video of an older British gentleman demonstrating his Seagull in a trash > can. Wonderful. Missing footage of his discussion with his wife after the > demo would be classic as well. Directly behind (down wind) from his demo is > a full clothes line, receiving a full dose of the smoke from the gas/oil > mixture. > > John in Tucson > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jerry <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman. > xmission.com> > Sent: Mon, Aug 7, 2017 8:23 am > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > I had one of the big Seagulls on as Balboa 20- it always ran altho it took > constant fiddling. Left an oil slick wherever it went. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Davies > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 5:38 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > Just the bare essentials ?. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 10:57 PM Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I remember those Seagulls. Always seemed like they forgot half the engine > > when they put them together. > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Reminds me of the British Seagull that I used for years in the 60s to > > power > > > my 24 ft Rainbow sloop ?. Sold it with the boat and it may still be > > > running somewhere. > > > > > > Rick > > > M17 #633 > > > Lynne L > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 6:31 PM <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > If really want a light motor, none of the newer ones compare well to > > any > > > > of the old 2-stroke 2hp motors that can be found cheap nowadays. I > > really > > > > like my 19lb Yamaha 2hp, but used to have a Cruise'N'Carry that only > > > > weighed 12 lbs, but was much lower quality and louder than the > Yamaha. > > > > > > > > Tyler > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "brad kurlancheek" <bkurlancheek(a)gmail.com> > > > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 10:09:08 AM > > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > > > > > > > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > > > on my monty 15 > > > > > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it > > > > weighs > > > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the > > trolling > > > > motor setup > > > > > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or > the > > > > 20" "long" > > > > > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am > just > > > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > > > actually be well within the water > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 10:53:36 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: electric motor > Message-ID: <a03b9909-87e8-6793-4721-0b92c60dbc4c(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Suzuki's own website doesn't show a 20" shaft for their 2.5 hp, only 15". > > Oddly, onlineoutboards.com now does show a 20" shaft option for the > Suzuki 2.5 hp (didn't last time I looked some moths ago). > > But their Honda 2.3 page still also says Honda has the only 20" shaft > model in that power range. > > If Suzuki now does have a 20" shaft 2.5 hp, it's a much cheaper price > than the Honda, and similar weight. But water cooled, so more > maintenance than the air-cooled Honda. > > cheers, > John S. > > On 08/06/2017 10:09 AM, brad kurlancheek wrote: > > i've had the same experience, using the cheapie 30 lb thrust > > on my monty 15 > > > > i figure it weighs 10 to 15 lbs, and the battery's about 20 pounds; > > plus a 15 watt solar panel > > > > lately i've been thinking of going instead with a suzuki 2.5; it weighs > > 29 pounds - total weight including gas may just be less than the trolling > > motor setup > > > > am just not sure which size shaft to go with - the 15" "short", or the > > 20" "long" > > > > any suggestions or experience with either? i did read the article on > > this in the MSOG website - i'd rather go with the "short", but am just > > concerned i won't be able to get the prop down low enough so as to > > actually be well within the water > > > > thanks > > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:00 PM, < > > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > > > >> Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > >> montgomery_boats > >> > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > >> 2. Re: elect. motor (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) > >> 3. Re: elect. motor (Timothy JarviMD) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:12:50 -0700 > >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > >> To: "'For and abmontgomery forum" > >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > >> Message-ID: <DA09D234268849B98883323D0253A4CD@CH002914> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > >> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total > and > >> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > >> Perfect. > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:16:54 -0700 > >> From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> > >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > >> Message-ID: <D746AB336F6E4E5084CBF9DDDAC0CB8F@CH002914> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >> reply-type=original > >> > >> Correct that to 2 to 2.5 knots! > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org > >> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:12 PM > >> To: 'For and abmontgomery forum > >> Subject: M_Boats: elect. motor > >> > >> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > trolling > >> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > >> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > >> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > >> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line > >> and > >> it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and > the > >> when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > Perfect. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:21:06 -0400 > >> From: Timothy JarviMD <tjarvi(a)esnm.us> > >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >> <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: elect. motor > >> Message-ID: > >> <CACknUZU41PNHue_Kbp5dR7CGmBNwmiLmBRtv9674xWBm- > >> z_XnA(a)mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >> > >> Put one and a solar panel on the flush deck. Works well, I agree! > >> Had no luck finding a 4 stroke that would fit in the outboard well and > not > >> have the prop hit the rudder when not even close to hard-over... > >> > >> On Thursday, July 27, 2017, <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > >> > >>> I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect > >> trolling > >>> motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the > >>> Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job > >>> surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no > >>> wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting > line > >>> and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total > and > >>> the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. > >>> Perfect. > >>> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Digest Footer > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> montgomery_boats mailing list > >> montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > >> https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >> > >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 173, Issue 21 > >> ************************************************* > >> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 174, Issue 4 > ************************************************ > -- *Antonio Martinez* *Middle River Studio*

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Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
by John Schinnerer 05 Aug '17

05 Aug '17

Hi all, I'm contemplating what to use for new companionway boards on my M17. It came with some probably previous-owner-made plywood ones that are warped enough across their width that they don't line up well any more, especially the joint between the middle and top one (3 boards on mine). What has anyone used for companionway boards? Looking for experiences anyone has had with various options. I'm pondering something like Starboard. Anyone had problems with sagging/warping in hot weather? Or thermal expansion/contraction? I am also wondering if the lighter weight Starboard XL would work - anyone used that for anything? Mostly it just says it's 30% lighter, and has "less structural strength." But not clear exactly what that means...for this kind of application. Looking for a reasonable combination of price vs. durability. And low maintenance is desirable. Thus the questions about plastic board products. Oiled teak would look gorgeous but I think it would cost a fortune. thanks, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: Replacing companionway boards - options, advice
by bownez＠juno.com 04 Aug '17

04 Aug '17

Hi John, I had the lower dropboard of my 3 piece system made from Starboard as there always seemed to be a small bit of water at the lower edge of the bridgedeck on my M23. It would try to stain and rot the lower lip of the original veneer teak board. Worked great. The M17 does not have that bridgedeck. I did make new dropboards for mine years ago, using teak veneer plywood. I kept and use the old boards when the boat is in winter storage. I'm sure the price of materials has increased measurably. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Actress Tells All: "I Felt Bloated, Tired...Now I Know Why" ActivatedYou http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5984668cc080f668c0eebst01vuc

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2017 Dinghy Delta Ditch race in Sacramento Aug 5th
by casioqv＠usermail.com 31 Jul '17

31 Jul '17

Hi all, I will be doing this race in my M15, and it would be great if other Montgomery people wanted to participate also. It's a 30 mile race in the California Delta near Sacramento California. The deadline to register is Saturday July 29th, and it costs $50. http://lwsailing.org/events/ddd2017.shtml Sincerely, Tyler Backman

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Is owner of M17 "Kairos" here?
by John Schinnerer 29 Jul '17

29 Jul '17

Just curious if Kairos' owner is here on the list. Saw her at the Berkeley marina while checking out the kite festival there today. cheers, John S. -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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elect. motor
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 27 Jul '17

27 Jul '17

I know this has been talked about before, but I just got an elect trolling motor; a cheapie with 30 lbs thrust, and used it on my Sage 17 at the Monterey race (NOT during the race!) last weekend. It did the job surprisingly well, and probably pushed the boat at 2 or 1.5 knots in no wind. I used it to get out of the marina and towards the starting line and it was perfect for that. Probably ran it about a half hour total and the when I returned I hooked it up to the charger and it was at 90%. Perfect.

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