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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 218, Issue 3
by Jon Barber 03 Apr '21

03 Apr '21

Motor mounts are an eyesore! Give me the notch and a 2 hp any day. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 11:54 AM <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: outboard motor on transom (John Schinnerer) > 2. Re: outboard motor on transom (Charles Adams) > 3. Re: outboard motor on transom (Steve Trapp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 18:50:31 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <218218e3-a18e-5f1f-0f6c-833461f3292a(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Nice...I carry my motor in my vehicle, so far, but if I were wanting an > alternative I would do something like this, or what someone else posted, > to have a motor mount bracket somewhere near the front of the trailer. > > It's a reasonable location because it has less motion/bouncing in most > cases when towing, compared to the transom. > > cheers, > John > > On 4/2/21 3:14 PM, Edward Cazier wrote: > > When I last painted my M-17(#888 Scooby Doo), I installed a larger and > stouter motor mount on the transom, but am still nervous about damaging the > transom (or the motor mount) by leaving the outboard there when traveling. > Although I’m not yet retired, the pandemic has given me lots of time to > spend on sailboat projects, so I built the motor mount described in the > attached. No more worries about the motor mount or transom or about gas > fumes in the car. > > > > > > > > > >> On Apr 2, 2021, at 3:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > >> require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of the > boat. > >> I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Haul > >> time. > >> George > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >>> road > >>> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >>> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested > to > >>> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >>> Steve > >>> M-15- 335 > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >>> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >>> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >>> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >>> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >>> > >>> HI: > >>> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >>> Anyway, > >>> > >>> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > all > >>> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >>> week). > >>> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >>> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >>> Is that unwise? > >>> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >>> trailer > >>> and keep taking it on and off. > >>> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > seems > >>> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >>> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >>> > >>> Pete WinterSky > >>> (Zimowsky) > >>> > >>> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >>> > >>> outdoors writer and photographer > >>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >>> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >>> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >>> > >>> > >>> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >>> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >>> > > > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 22:18:42 -0400 > From: Charles Adams <chaada(a)aol.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <406BD136-CDD0-49B6-93B0-E54C59382E35(a)aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” > when I read someone has given up sailing because of age. > > As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect > on my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind > to do so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice > across US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think > best but I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to > sail that would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big > boats because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a > little boat where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, > because of cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read > causes me to wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when > I bought it. Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 > years because it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. > Confess to doubting I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be > concerned with constant problems to fix. > > My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince > me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly > smart. > > Charlie > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > wrote:Ross > > > > I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > > require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of > theread boat. > > I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld > going > > time. > > George > > "We Can Not Control the Wind > > But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >> road > >> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to > >> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >> Steve > >> M-15- 335 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >> > >> HI: > >> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >> Anyway, > >> > >> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > all > >> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >> week). > >> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >> Is that unwise? > >> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >> trailer > >> and keep taking it on and off. > >> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > seems > >> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >> > >> Pete WinterSky > >> (Zimowsky) > >> > >> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >> > >> outdoors writer and photographer > >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >> > >> > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 11:53:07 -0700 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <FD28EE7F04BD4D499A1545FD4CB14B81@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; > reply-type=original > > Charlie, > I am a youngster at 76, but I may have to give up sailing because of > my > arthritis which may interfere with my hauling the halyard, or trimming the > sheets, or starting the motor to get back to shore when those things > happen > on my M-15. When a person reaches a point that they can no longer do what > needs to be done, it is time to retire from the activity, regardless of > age. > This coming season will tell. > Steve > M-15 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Adams via montgomery_boats > Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 7:18 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Cc: Charles Adams > Subject: M_Boats: Re: outboard motor on transom > > Good going George! Thank you. At 81 I keep wondering “what the hell” > when > I read someone has given up sailing because of age. > > As to motor mounts and removing motor for trailering causes me to reflect > on > my trailering and not removing motor to do so. Never crossed my mind to > do > so. Not with a M17 but I have trailered thousands of miles, twice across > US, with a motor on a mount. Of course we should do what we think best > but > I am lazy and if I had to remove a motor every time I wanted to sail that > would cause me to do more kayaking or bicycling. I gave up big boats > because all the work with them and being in a marina. I chose a little > boat > where I just sail and worry about nothing. As a new M17 owner, because of > cabin, this site, which I enjoy, and all the issues I read causes me to > wonder if a M17 is really the trouble free boat I wanted when I bought it. > Owned many boat but have been loyal to my Drascombe Lugger 40 years > because > it is so simple. I planned for the same with the M17. Confess to > doubting > I’ll get 40 years with it and have no desire to be concerned with constant > problems to fix. > > My motor stays on the mount, all the time, and doubt anyone could convince > me to do other wise. Of course no one has ever accused me of being overly > smart. > > Charlie > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 4:44 PM, George Iemmolo <griemmolo2(a)gmail.com> > > wrote:Ross > > > > I have a bracket for the OB on my front Mast support on the trailer. > Does > > require moving it on my shoulder to the OB bracket on the rear of > theread > > boat. > > I can still manage it at 89 but it is only 2x a year at Splash and Hauld > > going > > time. > > George > > "We Can Not Control the Wind > > But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > > > > > >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 3:34 PM Steve Trapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > >> > >> I have never taken the risk of damaging my transom by traveling on the > >> road > >> with my outboard on the transom of my M-15, but have always stowed in > the > >> back of my pickup until I arrive at the launch ramp. I am interested to > >> read what other M-boaters have to report on this question. > >> Steve > >> M-15- 335 > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats > >> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 8:31 AM > >> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > >> Cc: Peter Zimowsky > >> Subject: M_Boats: outboard motor on transom > >> > >> HI: > >> I probably put this under the wrong subject line. > >> Anyway, > >> > >> Normally I leave my 75-pound 4-stroke, 4-horse outboard on the transom > >> all > >> the time for the short trips to the lake (14 miles round trip; once a > >> week). > >> However, when I do my cruises in the San Juans, it’s 600 miles over the > >> Blues and Cascades. I have been leaving the motor on the transom. > >> Is that unwise? > >> The motor is too heavy for me to put it on the motor rack on my boat > >> trailer > >> and keep taking it on and off. > >> Any ideas? I’m I damaging the outboard motor rack on the transom. It > >> seems > >> to be tight; no damage after 5 years of this practice. I’m thinking of > >> tradings the Merc in for a lighter motor. > >> > >> Pete WinterSky > >> (Zimowsky) > >> > >> San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush > >> > >> outdoors writer and photographer > >> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky > >> <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> > >> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors > >> > >> > >> "We Can Not Control the Wind > >> But We Can Adjust Our Sails" > >> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list -- montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > To unsubscribe send an email to > montgomery_boats-leave(a)mailman.xmission.com > %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 218, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >

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