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Fwd: Clever
by Conbert Benneck 08 Dec '20

08 Dec '20

Good morning fellow sailors, Here is an excellent ideaÂ that will make a wonderful Christmas present for yourself or any sailor firends Happy holidays, Connie -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Clever Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 From: benneck(a)gmx.de To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> Dad, This is one of those Â„Why didnÂ’t I think of thatÂ” devices: https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> Gerhard

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Capsize recover/re-entry
by Rusty Knorr 05 Dec '20

05 Dec '20

Stern mounted boarding ladders are considered a very poor choice by open water sailors. Grabbing on to the stern of a boat moving through the water after a capsize is going to pivot the boat downwind, likely filling the sail and making the boat take off, furthering the difficulty of re-boarding, or making it impossible. For those considering re-entry options after a capsize or unintended going overboard, Howard Rice and John Welsford have devised an ingenious system for SCAMP using straps for re-entry. Anyone at any age should be able to easily re-enter a Monty with an adaptation of this system. These guys are ocean sailors on small boats, they know what they are talking about. https://youtu.be/uv6ia0gU5Js https://youtu.be/jGOvKT-ryq0 www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > On Dec 2, 2020, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Clever (Conbert Benneck) > 2. Re: Fwd: Clever (Edward Epifani) > 3. Re: Fwd: Clever (Edward Epifani) > 4. Re: Fwd: Clever (casioqv(a)usermail.com) > 5. Re: Fwd: Clever - safety plans (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 10:16:24 -0600 > From: Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever > Message-ID: <9dd0e3e5-a517-6672-3a8b-5e02ab9b74e8(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Good morning fellow sailors, > > > Here is an excellent idea? that will make a wonderful Christmas present > for yourself or any sailor firends > > Happy holidays, > > Connie > > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Clever > Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 > From: benneck(a)gmx.de > To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> > > > > Dad, > > This is one of those ?Why didn?t I think of that? devices: > > https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… > <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> > > > Gerhard > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 16:42:00 +0000 > From: Edward Epifani <edepifani(a)hotmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever > Message-ID: > <MWHPR18MB13423975A45ADF51A6BD7B8AB2F30(a)MWHPR18MB1342.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Certainly begs the question: what are Montgomery sailor?s rescue plans... > Both solo and companion sailing? > Have you practiced? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Good morning fellow sailors, >> >> >> Here is an excellent idea that will make a wonderful Christmas present for yourself or any sailor firends >> >> Happy holidays, >> >> Connie >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Clever >> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 >> From: benneck(a)gmx.de >> To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> >> Dad, >> >> This is one of those ?Why didn?t I think of that? devices: >> >> https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> >> >> Gerhard >> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 16:48:07 +0000 > From: Edward Epifani <edepifani(a)hotmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever > Message-ID: > <MWHPR18MB13426E3F418681757AD554FDB2F30(a)MWHPR18MB1342.namprd18.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > A grim aside, I?ve known three mariners who drowned while moored at docks, having no plans to re-enter their boats in the event of falling overboard. Two armed deadlift pretty much impossible for anyone advanced in age. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Edward Epifani <edepifani(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> Certainly begs the question: what are Montgomery sailor?s rescue plans... >> Both solo and companion sailing? >> Have you practiced? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning fellow sailors, >>> >>> >>> Here is an excellent idea that will make a wonderful Christmas present for yourself or any sailor firends >>> >>> Happy holidays, >>> >>> Connie >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Clever >>> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 >>> From: benneck(a)gmx.de >>> To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dad, >>> >>> This is one of those ?Why didn?t I think of that? devices: >>> >>> https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> >>> >>> Gerhard >>> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 09:02:23 -0800 (PST) > From: casioqv(a)usermail.com > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever > Message-ID: > <467051894.14998114.1606928543768.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Good question! I need to add a permanent swim ladder to my M15, but haven't installed one yet. That said, I always sail clipped in with a harness, and put out a removable swim ladder when at anchor. These days, 99% of my sailing is with my 3 year old son, and we both always wear a life jacket and clip in unless inside the cabin. I added a large stainless bow eye just under the companionway step for clipping in the cockpit, and use a dockline from the bow cleat to the stern cleat if I need to go forward... however there is never really a need to go forward in an M15 if you have a jib downhaul. > > When racing in calm conditions with experienced crew and a lot of other competitors and spectators around, I will forego the harness and tether so it doesn't slow me down. Also, I *can* enter an M15 using my own strength without a ladder, largely because I'm heavy enough to roll the boat to near the waterline. > > Sincerely, > Tyler > '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Epifani" <edepifani(a)hotmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:42:00 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever > > Certainly begs the question: what are Montgomery sailor?s rescue plans... > Both solo and companion sailing? > Have you practiced? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Good morning fellow sailors, >> >> >> Here is an excellent idea that will make a wonderful Christmas present for yourself or any sailor firends >> >> Happy holidays, >> >> Connie >> >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: Clever >> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 >> From: benneck(a)gmx.de >> To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> >> Dad, >> >> This is one of those ?Why didn?t I think of that? devices: >> >> https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> >> >> Gerhard >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 09:55:12 -0800 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever - safety plans > Message-ID: <78fed254-1eb4-8e64-e1e4-bd196be0baca(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Safety plans & furnishings... > > My M17 has a transom mounted swim ladder, normally stowed folded but I > can deploy it from in the water if needed. Just a flimsy snap strap and > one worn out bungee ball cord keep it stowed upright. > > I'm wearing my PFD at all times while under way, which is a well > fitting, properly fitted, paddling/sailing designed, > always-ready-to-float-you PFD, not an inflatable. > I also usually wear it when I'm scampering around the boat & dock > setting up to head out...just in case, to avoid being like the > unfortunate mariners who drowned when tied to a dock or mooring. > > I could never feel as safe wearing an inflatable. I worry about boating > friends who use them. So much can go wrong on the way overboard (or long > before...did the cartridge leak? Is the mechanism working? etc.) that > will render it unlikely to get inflated after one hits the water. > > Plus when inflated they are bulky and obstructive, like the old > horse-collar "life jackets" - whereas with a well designed & fitted > paddle/sail PFD one can swim half-decently (if one is at least a > half-decent swimmer :-), and they are less obstructive when re-entering > a boat from the water. > > cheers, > John > > > >> On 12/2/20 9:02 AM, casioqv(a)usermail.com wrote: >> Good question! I need to add a permanent swim ladder to my M15, but haven't installed one yet. That said, I always sail clipped in with a harness, and put out a removable swim ladder when at anchor. These days, 99% of my sailing is with my 3 year old son, and we both always wear a life jacket and clip in unless inside the cabin. I added a large stainless bow eye just under the companionway step for clipping in the cockpit, and use a dockline from the bow cleat to the stern cleat if I need to go forward... however there is never really a need to go forward in an M15 if you have a jib downhaul. >> >> When racing in calm conditions with experienced crew and a lot of other competitors and spectators around, I will forego the harness and tether so it doesn't slow me down. Also, I *can* enter an M15 using my own strength without a ladder, largely because I'm heavy enough to roll the boat to near the waterline. >> >> Sincerely, >> Tyler >> '81 M15 #157 S/V Defiant >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Edward Epifani" <edepifani(a)hotmail.com> >> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:42:00 AM >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Clever >> >> Certainly begs the question: what are Montgomery sailor?s rescue plans... >> Both solo and companion sailing? >> Have you practiced? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Conbert Benneck <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning fellow sailors, >>> >>> >>> Here is an excellent idea that will make a wonderful Christmas present for yourself or any sailor firends >>> >>> Happy holidays, >>> >>> Connie >>> >>> >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: Clever >>> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 11:21:47 +0100 >>> From: benneck(a)gmx.de >>> To: 'Conbert Benneck' <chbenneck(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dad, >>> >>> This is one of those ?Why didn?t I think of that? devices: >>> >>> https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?… <https://newatlas.com/marine/seearch-wearable-inflatable-open-water-rescue/?…> >>> >>> Gerhard >>> >> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 214, Issue 1 > ************************************************

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