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Re: M_Boats: Yamaha 4HP outboard
by Dave Scobie 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Henry: i'm referring to the 'true' 4-stroke 4HP motor Yamaha made until 2010/2011. i almost bought one in summer 2010 ... wish i had! -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> wrote: > "4HP, in my opinion, is the perfect size. the 'old' Yamaha 4HP was > perfect. Yamaha discontinued this motor and went the way of Suzuki (see > below)." > > By 'old' do you mean 2-stroke or 90s vintage 4-stroke? There is a 90s > 4-stroke on my local Craigslist but I think it is a short shaft. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Sent: ‎7/‎31/‎2014 10:42 AM > > > i use a 4HP Suzuki outboard on my M17. never had issue with having 'enough > power' and i have sailed the boat mostly on Puget Sound, and the waters > around the San Juan Islands and Gulf Islands. sailing in these areas > requires planning when you pass through channels and other areas that have > strong tide caused current. > > the M17 is a displacement hull ... you are not going to get her going much > faster than hull speed no matter how much HP you put on the boat. (Jerry > Montgomery has some interesting stories on what some folks have > done/attempted.) > > 4HP, in my opinion, is the perfect size. the 'old' Yamaha 4HP was > perfect. Yamaha discontinued this motor and went the way of Suzuki (see > below). > > a 5HP is more than enough. > > i know some that have a Suzuki 6HP, which is the same motor as the 4HP (the > 4HP has a 'smaller' carb and doesn't have an external tank nor alternator > option, these last two items are why folks have the 6HP). > > more folks have started to use the Honda 2HP (now sold as the 2.3HP) on the > M17. this motor will move the boat just fine to about 4.5kts in light seas > and winds. the 31 pound 2HP is another reason. a lot less weight to carry > around v. the 60+ pounds of a 4HP+ outboard. > > i know a couple that uses a Yamaha 2.5 on the M17 and they cruise the same > areas i do in the PNW. the only limitations with the Yamaha are the lack > of an external tank and the motor is only available in a short shaft. > > > -- > :: Dave Scobie > :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com > > > > > From: Richard Conn <connmanr(a)hotmail.com> > > > > > Hi, > > I'm selling my on-the-water town house in Pittsburg, and giving my 2001 > > Montgomery 17 to my son who lives in Alameda. It's about time, I turned > 88 > > last month. I've sailed up to Martinez in her, and around the Delta, > > during those 14 years, but never further west. Because my dock was right > > behind the house I never had a trailer. > > When I offered the boat to my son I just assumed I would sail her up to > > whatever slip space he gets on the Island. Now I'm wondering. Is that a > > reasonable sail, or motor with my 5 horse kicker? Have any of you done > it, > > and how long did it take. > > I'm anxious for your input. If you all think sailing Beatrice would be > > crazy, is there anybody out there who would consider renting me a trailer > > for a weekend. If so, it would be towed by my son who's 38 years my > junior, > > Thanks for listening and kind regards, > > Richard Conn > > >

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Barnacles
by Conbert Benneck 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Eons ago, we were heading for Europe, to sail our new Northeast 38 toy, that I had pretty much bought sight-unseen for $15K- fully equipped, in Denmark. The intent was to find out what sort of problems I had bought, fix them / or get them fixed, before planning to sail it back to the States the following year. Our T-L 29 was in the water her normal spot at Fort Rachel Marine at Mystic, CT, and I left our Dyer 7'-9" dinghy tied up alongside the mother ship while we were gone. The Dyer dink didn't have any anti-fouling paint on the bottom. We were gone for about two months. When we were back in Connecticut again, we headed to Mystic to go sailing. After bailing out all the rain water that had collected during our absence, I untied the dinghy, to moor it astern, it felt very sluggish. What gives? I hauled it up on the dock, and was dumbfounded to see the bottom of the dinghy totally covered with a thick layer of barnacles. They had found a new happy home during our absence, and had been fruitful and multiplied.... I spent the next several hours with a paint scraper, laboriously removing the barnacles - large and small - and making a large mess on the dock, before washing them back into the water, for the edification of the sea gulls and cormorants. I was so busy kicking myself for my stupidity, that I didn't think of weighing or measuring the volume of barnacles removed, but I assure you the whole bottom of the dinghy, every square inch of it, was totally cover with barnacles; some as big as a dime. A wild guess on my part would be about 30 lbs of barnacles that I removed. Let me assure you, the little crustaceans hold on the fiberglass bottom was extremely tenacious. My removal efforts were just a tad under using dynamite and blasting, and you could see the little round areas where each had firmly attached itself to the Dyer hull as they were chiseled away. My conclusion: If a boat is moving - as on a cruise - your chances of growing barnacles diminish. They like their quite undisturbed sex, such as I offered with the bottom of our dinghy. A moving boat makes it more difficult for them to attach themselves. Our T-L 29 had anti-fouling paint and we never had a problem with barnacles, other than on the propeller shaft or propeller blades themselves (that were unpainted). A few weeks cruising shouldn't present a barnacle problem, but beware if the boat just sits at a salt water Marina and doesn't move for weeks; and it doesn't have anti-fouling paint on the bottom. Then barnacles will cry "Whoopy, we've found a new home, let the sex orgy start" and you will have a big problem. The next time I was gone for a time, I left the dinghy overturned on the foredeck. One lesson learned was enough for me. Connie

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Welcome
by Thomas Buzzi 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Hello Tom, on the Hudson. I used to live and sail along the coast of Connecticut. Now I sail my M-17, or will soon, off Rockport, Tx. Today I am repairing some gelcoat and will wash and coat the hull with some substance called "NuGlass 2". This week I removed the aluminum rails from the hull to inspect the hull/deck joint. All looks fine and after treating the hull and painting the deck I will reinstall the soon to be repainted aluminum rails. Amazing the amount of dirt that collected beneath those during the last 38 years. Very satisfying to get it all cleaned out and their removal will greatly aid in my getting a good paint job done on the deck. I find puttering around on the boat almost as much fun as sailing in it. Retirement has given me the time to do so. Unfortunately my grandson lives about 1500 miles away. I would love to introduce him to sailing. Welcome aboard, Tom Buzzi, M17, #258, 1977

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Re: M_Boats: saltwater? AIR BORN back in WA?
by Dave Scobie 01 Aug '14

01 Aug '14

Steve: i'll likely not be back to WA until July 2015. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:14 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: > Dave, > Thanx. Are you planning to tow Air Born to Olympia for Harbor Days at > the end of August? > There is a power washer at the boat yard at Swantown. > Steve > M-15 # 335 >

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