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by Mark Holcomb 23 Jan '13

23 Jan '13

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23 Jan '13

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Transom mounted Raymarine ST40 Bidata System
by Ronald McNeil 18 Jan '13

18 Jan '13

I purchased a transom mounted Raymarine ST40 Bidata System but not sure if it's going to work well. After getting it I realize it's not really meant for sailboats. It also appears that it will stick out too far to on center Has anyone mounted one of these units? If so can you give me any suggestions. Thanks, Ron McNeil Jackpot #675

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Standard rig or tall rig
by Jeff Rodgers 10 Jan '13

10 Jan '13

Hi, I am in the process of ordering a larger furling genoa (150%) for my 2006 M17. I have been asked by the sail maker if I have a "standard rig" or a "tall rig". If I don't know (which I don't) they suggest I "run a tape measure up the jib halyard and measure to the sheerline at the deck level(not cabin top) parallel to the mast". Since the boat is in winter storage I am hoping I can get an answer to this question without having to take the boat out of storage and raising the mast. FYI, I currently have a 110% furling genoa made by Elliot/Pattison for the boat when it was bought new by a previous owner. Thanks! Jeff Rodgers

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my M-15
by stevetrapp 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

I own M-15, sail number 335. I have had the boat since new, and have sailed it on various waters of the Pacific NorthWest; Lake Pend Oreille in Idaho, Fern Ridge Resevoir near Eugene, Oregon, Lake Couer D' Alene in Idaho, the Willamette River in Portland, Oregon, and it and I are currently in Olympia, Washington on the South Puget Sound. Frankly, sailing the boat has been more fun than working my way through the internet maze to get to this site. Steve

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Re: M_Boats: my M-15
by Larry E Yake 09 Jan '13

09 Jan '13

Hi Steve, We've sailed many of the same waters. I live in Eastern Washington and sail the big lakes of north Idaho frequently. An annual trip to the San Juan and Gulf Islands is usually the highlight of the summer. Welcome to the group. Larry Yake M17 #200 CornDog On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 11:46:14 -0800 "stevetrapp" <stevetrapp(a)q.com> writes: > I own M-15, sail number 335. I have had the boat since new, and > have sailed it on various waters of the Pacific NorthWest; Lake Pend > Oreille in Idaho, Fern Ridge Resevoir near Eugene, Oregon, Lake > Couer D' Alene in Idaho, the Willamette River in Portland, Oregon, > and it and I are currently in Olympia, Washington on the South Puget > Sound. Frankly, sailing the boat has been more fun than working my > way through the internet maze to get to this site. > Steve > >

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Re: M_Boats: Propane Conversion kits for Outboard outboards
by jimdahlquist＠gmail.com 06 Jan '13

06 Jan '13

No question that is right. So I will suffer my present motor for another year. I have plenty more to do. I have noticed some small 4-cycles that weigh less than my 20 year old 60 pound 2-cycle. Maybe by then there will technology to enable me to forget about combustion altogether. Miracles have been alluded to. JimD Sent from Windows Mail From: August Trometer Sent: ‎November‎ ‎24‎, ‎2012 ‎4‎:‎09‎ ‎PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Propane Conversion kits for Outboard outboards The common generator for that is the Honda (4 stroke). Sent from my iPhone August & Susan Trometer 239 849 4681 North Fort Myers, FL atrometer(a)gmail.com On Nov 24, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Rik Sandberg <sanderico1(a)gmail.com> wrote: Jim, Don't think that's gonna work too well. On a two stroke, the fuel is also the lubricant (gas and oil mixed) I'm not sure how you would get the vaporous propane to carry the oil into the engine. Every propane generator conversion I've seen has a 4 stroke engine. Lubricant is in the crankcase. Big difference. I think if you want a propane outboard, the only way it's gonna work is to start with a 4 stroke. Hopefully somebody can prove me wrong. Rik On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I have seen a video on youtube showing how to convert a portable generator > from gasoline to propane. > Now I would like to explore the idea of converting my old Suzuki DT4 > 2-cycle outboard if I could find a compatible kit. > I think this would be cleaner and would not require any winter maintenance. > So far I haven't been able to find anything. Maybe because generators are > way too popular right now. > But I wanted to at least get this idea on the list. > > BTW: It appears that searching the archives requires downloading the full > data first. Is that correct? > > Jim Dahlquist > jimdahlquist(a)gmail.com -- "Since this is an era when many people are concerned about 'fairness' and 'social justice,' what is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?" …. Thomas Sowell

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by William (Skip) Campion via LinkedIn 06 Jan '13

06 Jan '13

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Measurements for an M17 mainsail cover
by Ronald McNeil 05 Jan '13

05 Jan '13

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can provide the needed measurements for ordering a mainsail cover for an M17. I want to order one so I have it in time for HPCC but I'm not taking possession of the boat until at least Jan 19th. When going to order on-line they are asking for the following measurements. Thanks, Ron McNeil

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Re: M_Boats: questions on a 21' - Get rid of the side decks??? NOOOOOO!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 05 Jan '13

05 Jan '13

Sidedecks..get rid of them??? LOL wow... Stand by for straight opinion here , but with a little but of mileage on the boat in question to back me up. While flush-decks my be more practical in some situations...there are few things as ugly, in my eyes, as a flush-decked boat, where the deck level outboard is raised up to the cabin level inboard....rather than the cabin level inboard dropped to the deck level outboard (of course I have to be partial to that or Sneakers will disown me! LOL). Looks great in big boats with the latter setup.....looks absolutely horrible in small boats with the former. I've owned Daunltess for mmmmmm ....somewhere around 8 or 9 years now. She and I have gotten around a little. I've walked those side-decks 20 miles offshore, at night, feeling pretty ill, in not the prettiest of conditions....and no...I am not going to tell you that they are ideal....far from it. Yes, her side decks are very narrow and demand extra caution. The Narrow side decks are the price we pay for a 23 with the room of most 24's and some 25's inside. Right, wrong, or indifferent, I will tell you that cosmetics are very important to me in the boat I sail/own. D's side-decks allow her sheer line to be defined and carry a graceful curve. Regardless of what you think about her cabin house (some like it, some hate it) without those side decks and the swooping shear line they provide and define she would be an ugly beast. IMHO of course! LOL She could carry a bit more beam, as nowadays the road rules are eased a bit from when Lyle drew her, but I believe you can only go another 6" or so before you are looking at wide load permits... No thanks! we stiffened her up a bit by switching to all lead ballast and adding substantially more that she was designed with while we were in there. The Monty 17 definitely does benefit from a wider beam in relation to length and sails a little better for it...I'm all for more beam.... but don't take my side-decks man!!! LOL :-) The amount of room lost inside is negligible....because ....well exactly the thing you are complaining about...they are "narrow" side decks ...allowing the coach roof to go dang near to the edge of the boat. Whenever we put anyone aboard D they are always blown away that she is "only" a 23 when they look inside. But hey Here's the good news....(and you probably are only going to figure this out from experiencing it) Unless you put up a big dodger like I have....if you want to crawl up over the deck, you can. The skinny side decks mean that you dang near HAVE a flushdeck..minus the 8 inches on each side for the side-decks. So unless you were planning on walking on the very outboard 8 inches...the skinny side-decks provide you with great aesthetics, and a huge open platform on top of the cabin to where you can walk and work. And my final piece of evidence is ....watch this slide show and imagine this boat with slab sides _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9pGMNhPRA_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J9pGMNhPRA) .... seriously?? Could you do that to her? Ugh! Yuck! Pooey!!! I couldn't !!! She's look like an oversize Bolger Micro...which while it may be a great boat....is as ugly as sin! There is even a picture or two of me working the side-decks offshore. Ideal?? nope..... get rid of them??? NO WAY! And you can return that opinion and receive a 100% refund for what you paid for it!! LOL :-)

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