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Re: M_Boats: (no subject)
by Neil Dorf 08 Dec '12

08 Dec '12

Hey Jerry if you want to get those documents to me I can scan the pages so that you can have an electronic archive and easily distribute if you want. Neil Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bill Wickett" <billwick(a)gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) Date: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 5:03 pm Jerry, that is history. Don't accidentally burn that book. Have it copied, or photographed page by page. Did that with my Dad's WW2 flight log books. Thanks so much for sharing. Would like to hear more thoughts on it. Column in SCA? Hell, maybe Sail mag would want to do a write up on it/you. "2013 Best old Goat". Keep on keepin' on man. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org>wrote: > This morning, while clearing out some space in my shop for the upcoming > Sage 15 I found a dusty box with some old paperwork, including a notebook > entitled “history of changes”. Some of this might be interesting to some > of you. If not, you have a delete button. I’m leaving out quite a bit > because I know that nobody cares! > > > > M-17- # of boats made: > > > > 1973 7 boats > > 1974 44 boats > > 75 32 boats incl 2 flushdecks > > 76 44 boats incl 2 flushdecks > > 77 43 boats incl 4 flushdecks > > 78 19 boats incl 1 flushdeck > > 79 and 80- 42 boats > > 81 19 boats > > 82 20 boats > > 83 20 boats, slowly dropping after that. > > > > (Note the big drop in 75 and 78- these were the two oil crises! Note that > production was reduced from one per week to one boat per two weeks; several > of these years we shut down between Thanksgiving to New Year’s due to lack > of business. Interesting times. (‘m astounded that we first started the > 17 tooling in early Spring and shipped the first boat in October. > Impossible! 7 months! > That’s what happens when you have lots of good help working on tooling 40 > hours a week, which was easy to come by in Costa Mesa in those days. The > big companies were laying off people). > > > > > > M-15: Started tooling in June 81, two of us made the plugs working nites > and weekends, guys in the mold shop did most of the finishing and > mold-making. We finished the first boat Oct of the same year. Again, > amazing what lots of help can do. 5 months! > > > > 1980 11 boats > > 81 78 boats > > 82 41 boats > > 83 34 boats > > 84 38 boats > > 85 32 boats, slowly dropping after that. > > > > Intereasting to note that the high point in national production was in 74, > just before the first gas crunch. The high in numbers of non-aux sailboats > was 121K boats if my memory is correct, and by the mid 80’s it was below > 10K. Few of us were smart enough to figure out what was happening for > years! (damn- looks like we’re having another bad year. Maybe next year). > In the meantime builders were dropping like flies. > > > > In Oct 83 I changed the port seat locker to like the 17; cut out the box > for access into a bilge locker. Way better, but cost more to build. > Decided to do that after my first crossing of the Gulf in a 15- because it > became very obvious that the extra storage was worth its weight in gold. > > Summer 85; # 335, Added 50 lbs of trim ballast forward, making total of > 75, then changed 50 of that to a steel plate to make more room for those > who wanted to install an elect pkg. > > > > The notebook had sat in various boxes in various places for almost 30 > years and is quite tattered and some of the info was indecipherable, but it > beats my memory! It’s been quite a trip. > > > > > jerry > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 7529 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan > http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen >

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Fw: THE COLUMBIA RIVER IN OREGON USA.
by jerry montgomery 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

This doesn't have much to do with sailing, but I enjoyed it! It must be in the pacific at the mouth of the Columbia. Incredibly long lense on the camera. jerry Subj: Fw: THE COLUMBIA RIVER BAR IN OREGON USA. WANT TO GO FISHING? SEASICK ANYONE? . http://www.youtube.com/embed/ByGSMmenPDM?rel=0 -- </ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text inserted by Panda IS 2012: This message has NOT been classified as spam. If it is unsolicited mail (spam), click on the following link to reclassify it: It is spam! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 7529 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

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Re: M_Boats: Alternative battery location on M17?
by bownez＠juno.com 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

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THANKS - to all who have helped!
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

I sail in a race - (FUN) we set-up a little form/web page (EASY) I send out one or two emails (okay - maybe 4 EASY) and the good people on this list and another two go HEAD AND SHOULDERS above my efforts to contribute/support/help the Cause.(HEAVY LIFTING and OPEN HEARTS) Those of you who helped - My sincerest thanks to you - you are good sharing people, the kind we like to be friends with. I am glad I know and have friends like you. Thanks again. Gary H.Oberbeck (the web page sent me notice in the past when a donation was made - I was able to personally thank each supporter - appears they don't do that this year - hence the blast mail - Thanks!) Peace and Love

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WICR&R-T newsflash !
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

News Release- for immediate release: Dorothy and Eldor have graciously offered up their famous Tejas* Breakfast at THE event !!! Thank You Team Eisen ! We loved it last year and appreciate the offer ( this looks like another 'tradition' heh?) Thanks Dorothy and Eldor - 'Motu-iti' M-boaters and WrinkleBoaters everywhere - don't miss out - 2013 WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta & Ran-Tan Breakfast will be served at Intergalactic Headquarters. Thanks Again - I always knew I liked those people...{;>) GO * "The word texas (tejas, tayshas, texias, thecas?, techan, teysas, techas?) had wide usage among the Indians of East Texas even before the coming of the Spanish, whose various transcriptions and interpretations gave rise to many theories about the meaning. The usual meaning was "friends," although the Hasinais applied the word to many groups-including Caddoan-to mean "allies." The Hasinais probably did not apply the name to themselves as a local group name; they did use the term, however, as a form of greeting: "Hello, friend." " from the Texas Historical Society

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Alternative battery location on M17?
by Bill Wickett 07 Dec '12

07 Dec '12

Asking if anyone has their battery mounted anywhere differently than the port side, just inside the bunk bulkhead on an M17? I was thinking of the possibility of moving it forward and on the centerline. Would need longer battery cables and a new fuse located close to the new location. The recent discussion on cockpit drains etc, got me thinking about shifting some weight forward, as well as away from the port side, since the main anchor is also stored on that side in the port cockpit locker. Since the boat is covered and stored, I will have to wait a few months to look this over. Bill Makin' Time M17 #622

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Bottom Paint...now Recommendations?
by Steve Varley 05 Dec '12

05 Dec '12

Janisaz I've been thinking about heading toward British Columbia next summer. Do you have any recomendations about docking facilities and/or sailing areas? I don't know BC very well but the times we've spent there, on land, have been good! Steve & Sandy 2008 M 15 From: janisaz(a)comcast.net To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Bottom paint Message-ID: < 1661870236.767257.1354380594263.JavaMail.root(a)sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We leave our M17 in the water for about 4 months in British Columbia. Does anyone have any info/experience with a clear bottom paint or coating that will prohibit the algae growth but not interfere with the beautiful lines of the boat? Janis Johnson

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Bulkhead Compass
by Karen Saville 04 Dec '12

04 Dec '12

Where is the best location for mounting a compass on a Montgomery 17? Type? We are thinking about a bulk head dual read card compass. At our local lake there is a Seaward Fox that has a compass on the port and starboard bulk head.

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(no subject)
by markandsheri＠comcast.net 02 Dec '12

02 Dec '12

Hello, I just signed up to this fine group. The confirmation email encouraged me to say something about myself. I have owned my 2011 M15 for 6 mos or so. I have only sailed it twice! I love the way it sails, but I also love fixing boats up and this is what I have been up to. I enjoy reading what others have done or are doing with their boats. I live in in northern Ca, near Lake Don Pedro. Great sailing here. The number 1 reason I bought the M15 is because it fits in the garage! It stays nice this way:). I have owned many sailboats from a Cyclone 13 to Catalina 25s. I am liking this one:) Years ago I met and sailed with a gentleman, Rich Cotrell I think, that sailed a beautiful M15 named Really. Cutest boat I had ever seen. I asked Rich if I cound sail with him for a while and shoot some pics? He graciously accepted my request. Me in my Catalina 25 and Rich in Really, we laked at least 20 miles around Lake Don Pedro. Good times...... Mark Eichman Oakdale, Ca M15 Toyboat Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App

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Fw: (no subject)
by Mark & Sheri 02 Dec '12

02 Dec '12

" Me in my Catalina 25 and Rich in Really, we laked at least 20 miles around Lake Don Pedro" Baaaddd Grammer, my wife Sheri tells me! haha...She's so right! Let's try again: While sailing in my Catalina 25, Mae West and Rich sailing in his Montgomerty 15, Really, we sailed at least 20 miles around Lake Don Pedro. A little better? :) ----- Original Message ----- From: <markandsheri(a)comcast.net> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: M_Boats: (no subject) > Hello, > > I just signed up to this fine group. The confirmation email encouraged me > to say something about myself. > > I have owned my 2011 M15 for 6 mos or so. I have only sailed it twice! I > love the way it sails, but I also love fixing boats up and this is what I > have been up to. I enjoy reading what others have done or are doing with > their boats. I live in in northern Ca, near Lake Don Pedro. Great > sailing here. The number 1 reason I bought the M15 is because it fits in > the garage! It stays nice this way:). I have owned many sailboats from a > Cyclone 13 to Catalina 25s. I am liking this one:) Years ago I met and > sailed with a gentleman, Rich Cotrell I think, that sailed a beautiful M15 > named Really. Cutest boat I had ever seen. I asked Rich if I cound sail > with him for a while and shoot some pics? He graciously accepted my > request. Me in my Catalina 25 and Rich in Really, we laked at least 20 > miles around Lake Don Pedro. Good times...... > > Mark Eichman > Oakdale, Ca > M15 Toyboat > > Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App >

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