March 2011 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: More work on M-23
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Hey Robin...Holy cow! Those pictures bring back memories! Interesting some of the similarities like the line of demarcation on the keel where it always stays in the slot, and the fact that you also had a seem to fill at the keel trunk/hull joint. Keep up the good work and keep posting photos! Sean M23 "Dauntless" www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com

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Re: M_Boats: More work on M-23
by bownez＠juno.com 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Hi Robbin, Congrats on getting back into projects! I'm anxious after this long winter to step aboard my boat.I could not open your picture album, I would like to view it. Keep the faith and determination, the pleasure that awaits you helming your M23 will eclipse all the hard work. (just ask Sean). Bones ____________________________________________________________ Groupon.com Official Site 1 huge daily deal on the best stuff to do in your city. Try it today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d8df094ecd2c38bb38st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: How do you make a million dollars in the boat business.?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

In a message dated 3/24/2011 5:21:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, mitch_carnes(a)sbcglobal.net writes: if they can be made cheaply enough.... probably the answer right there. What is the real demand for 12 foot open sailing boats? Many are available to be built in kit form by ham fisted/ finger cutting/ wood butchers like myself. Pride of construction there. Then there is also that issue called 'freight'. How many on the list have/are/plan on building their own small (or large) boat? There is SO much variety available, so inexpensively and easily well built by amateurs today. It is a tough market and the margins (even builder/direct sales) are small. I don't think I EVER made money in 30 some years selling new 'small' boats at the retail level. 'Small' being 13 feet and shorter in this case. I once sold 11 M-10 s and got to keep the 12th for myself! WOW! Wondering what others think? GO - former marine industry worker I never lost a million, but I was Zero$ broke twice - overall made a good+ living for my family, but not based on new sales. Money was in resale,repair and storage.

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Re: M_Boats: M 15 sail measurements
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Daniel and Doug, The difference between a loose footed main and one with a bolt rope really is not a matter of turbulence at the boom. If the sail is captive in the boom the 'pressure' trying to escape will not be held in by the boom it will wander around across or under the boom. Slippery stuff that air. The better reasons for a loose footed sail are : The ability to build a 'roach' into the foot for additional (usually partially unmeasured) sail area. The lower third of the sail will maintain a smoother shape when adjusted by use of flattening reef or outhaul (sail doesn't bunch-up in boom track) The last reason is more important on a smaller boat due to scale, the lumpy foot area of the sail is a greater concern on a small sail. In the older days the loose foot was a small boat feature - today it is used by many larger boats - primarily for the second reason - nice clean edges and smooth transition and lower section of mainsail. I would ask the people at Baxter & Cicero Sails to see if my reason holds water or .... GO

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M 15 sail measurements
by Karen and Smiley 28 Mar '11

28 Mar '11

Are the sail measurements current as found on the owners group page: http://msog.org/specs/m15sailmeasure.cfm Additionally how strongly do you guys feel about having TWO (2) reef points in the main sail. Lastly who do you guys like cutting Montgomery sails? Smiley Montgomery 15, sail 616 (to be named Another Wrinkle) magoo252(a)comcast.net

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by Allan West 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

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Re: M_Boats: How do you make a million dollars in the boat business.?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

It is good to get your vegetables while sailing.... vertical leading edge - yeah dude - you folk should see the windows, cutters, forks/sticks,scrapers the CA people use out there...that stuff can 'suck you over' to China it grows so fast and strong ! But it makes a nice tea and a decent marinade for tuna steaks on the BBQ. Me - I am thinking of one of those wingding keel thingiees with some tip turbulators for the phosphorescence shows and the tunes blasting Zappa. Take Care,Have Fun,Go Sailing before you cut it off ! it is getting like a blackjack hand - you're sitting on '19', want another card (keel) ? HIT ME BABY !

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Re: M_Boats: How do you make a million dollars in the boat business.?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 27 Mar '11

27 Mar '11

Gary, I hear good things about that boat. If I didn't have a 7-11 I would be very tempted. Good looking boat and I am told it does a good job hauling loads. Any other builders out there? Stan - have you cut your keel off yet?? GO

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Harken Main Sheet system
by Daniel Rich 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

I have just installed my new Harken Main Sheet system, replacing the old system. If you want to see a picture of this, you can find it on my blog at http://danielgrich.users.sonic.net/?p=49 Now, hopefully it will be clear enough tomorrow so I can try it out! Daniel M15 #208

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Sailing Lake Superior
by Randy and Kay Sommerfeld 26 Mar '11

26 Mar '11

I am planning my annual sailing trip around the Apostle Islands on Lake Superior, June 15-19 if anyone is interested in joining me. The idea would be to meet at Little Sand Bay around noon, then head out towards either Sand Island or Raspberry Island for the first night. Then try for Stockton Island or Oak Island the next day. Little Sand Bay is about 15 miles north of Bayfield Wisconsin, about as north as you can get in Wisconsin. It is a nice little park, headquarters for the Apostle Island National Park Service and has a nice boat ramp, some slips and parking. I am seeing a number of Montgomery Boat people on the list serve from the Wisconsin and Minnesota area, so I thought I throw out an invitation. Randy Sommerfeld M17 No Worries

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