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Re: M_Boats: WrinkleBoat Ran-Tan 2012 January 13-15 Phoenix ALL invite d !
by bownez＠juno.com 15 Nov '11

15 Nov '11

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Dylan Winter to Attend and Film Havasu!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

We are excited to announce that Keep Turning Left's ( _http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/_ (http://www.keepturningleft.co.uk/) ), and Small Craft Advisor's ( _www.smallcraftadvisor.com_ (http://www.smallcraftadvisor.com/) ) Dylan Winter will be coming all the way "Across The Pond" to join us for the 5th anniversary of the Havasu Pocket Cruiser Convention! If you've been sitting on the fence about whether to attend or not...and this doesn't do it for you....we give up!!! lol Dylan and his wife Jill will spend two full weeks in Lake Havasu filming the Event,sailors, lake, and town. He will sail and interact daily with paticipants and we'll also have a presentation one evening featuring some of Dylan's film, a relaxed question answer period, and a celebration of how the love of sail knows no borders. Dylan will film the event daily with nightly uploads to youtube. He will also have an HD DVD avaialable upon the completion of the event. Dylan and Jill are being brought over by the colaborative effort of a small group of sponsors and individuals. If you would like to jump on this train to help support this endeavor, we'd love to have you join us. Of course we have to triple your registration fee in order to do this! So ...let's see.....three times $0.00 issssss...... $0.00!!! Start saving up!! _www.sailhavasu.com_ (http://www.sailhavasu.com/)

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Thanks US Vets on this list...
by Tom Smith 11 Nov '11

11 Nov '11

For your service to our country. t

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Re: M_Boats: wire to rope halyards
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Bill, Good idea - that old 'routine maintenance' thing coming up again - gotta look into that ! ;>) I switched to all rope - put stopper ball at ends and use 'stopper knot/overhand knot' to attach haly to sail - freaks people out when they see how it works ! No hardware - light weight - imminently serviceable - gotta love it! Have Fun,Go Sailing GO

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Re: M_Boats: cruisng chutes
by Judith Blumhorst, DC 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Hi Bill, Sailing DDW is slow. Generally, you'll get to your downwind target much sooner if you gybe downwind. That's true with a symmetric spinnaker as well as an all-purpose asymm (aka cruising chute). Having said that, it is true that some people do pole out their cruising chutes for long runs and to sail deeper angles. If you do pole out your asymm, you should use a spinnaker pole, which is designed for forces in strain and higher loads than a whisker pole. Spinnaker sheets should be as light weight and small diameter as your hands will allow. Lighter weight is better when you're trying to keep the chute filled in no wind. If you can get line that doesn't absorb much water, that's the best. water is heavy. Spin sheets should be aprox twice as long as the boat length. (Some folks use a continuous sheet, but I have some concerns about that, safety-wise.) Yes, the spinhaler halyard block should swivel 360. the block should be attached above the forestay, preferably on a small crane or tab. (If you have a furler, take care to stow it securely away from the top of the the furler, to avoid a halyard wrap around the furler.) Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails USA, Northern California judyb(a)hydesailsUSA.com cell: 925.208.1692 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica ________________________________ From: Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> To: "Judith Blumhorst, DC" <drjudyb(a)blumhorst.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 3:04 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cruisng chutes Judy, Thanks for the info in cruising chutes in general and hoisting and dousing in particular. I have a few questions for you or other list members who want to jump in and contribute. Regarding using an assymetrical dead down wind, would one be using a whisker pole same as poling out a genoa wing & wing, or were you referring to using a spinnaker pole? On an M17 with a mast head rig, I would require a separate spinnaker halyard. Should this be mounted on a swivel block at the mast head? Do you have a suggested spin sheet diameter for M17? 3/16" Thanks Bill Wickett Makin' Time M17 #622 On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Judith Blumhorst, DC <drjudyb(a)blumhorst.com> wrote: Hi Joe, > >Google "spinnaker launching companionway". Most racers in boats under 25 feet launch their spinnakers from the companionway, not the foredeck. Usually with a crew of two or three (think J22, J24, etc). > > >For small boats, I think the easiest way to launch and retrieve a cruising chute is from a bag in the companionway or cockpit. I hang a bag in the companionway. Before I leave the dock, I rig the sheets, tack, and halyard so I can launch on starboard tack. (I leave all 4 lines rigged and clipped to the rail all the time.) > > >You don't need or want a snuffer on a micro cruiser. It's more work than it's worth for such a small, easily handled chute. >Here's an overview of flying a chute on a small boat. How big you are and how much wind you want to fly it in determines how big a chute you can handle. > >I'm a small woman, and I can handle the 175 square feet of a Potter 19 chute by myself and it's the same size the one for the M17. (Keep in mind that you can start with a small chute for learning safely, then sell it and get a bigger one if you want) . (I use a snuffer for the 600 square foot cruising chute on my Catalina.) > >An easy-to-handle all-purpose cruising chute for a Monty boat will be at least twice as big as your 150% genoa. (It could be bigger, but that depends on the windspeeds you want it for). > > >Pick a spot where you have enough sea room. >Drop your jib. >Check that all your lines are free, especially the spin sheets. >Set your course with the tiller tamer so the chute can be hoisted in the shadow of the mainsail (about 150 degrees to the true wind?) >Haul the tack line until the tack of the chute is at the bow, about 3- 6" (?) inches above the fairlead/block. Secure it. (make sure you can release it fast if you need to cancel the hoist) > >Haul the halyard ot the top and secure it. > >Haul the working sheet, but not too tight. Keep it in hand. > >Head up to a broad reach (120 degrees true?) or so to fill the chute. How high you go will depend upon wind speed. The goal in this step is to get the boat moving fast enough so the apparent wind moves forward so it's coming over the beam. > > >Finally, ease the tackline a bit, turn slowly downwind, and give a big ease on the sheet. The chute will rotate across the center line and project beyond the windshadow of the mainsail. > > >When you ease the tackline (and detension the lufff), the chute gets a shape similar to an asymmetric spinnaker and you can sail deeper angles and build up good boatspeed on a very deep reach. You can't sail DDW without a pole. > > >For reaching in light winds, tighten the tack line as you steer higer. that will give the chute a shape close to a genoa than a spinnaker. > > >Always be ready to give a big ease on the sheet if you get overpowered while sailing. But don't drop the sheet if you get in trouble -- instead, to totally depower the chute safely, you'll release the tack. > > >To douse the chute: > >Turn downind to about 150-160 degrees, so the main can blanket the chute. Ease the mainsail so you can pull the chute in underneath the boom, into the companionway bag. > >Make sure the lazy sheet is free, the halyard is free, tackline is free to run. >Release the tack line and pull the working sheet towards you until you can grab the foot of the chute somewhere. Takes 3-5 secs. >Release the halyard and gather up the chute. Takes another 3-5 secs. >Stuff everything into the bag in the companionway. Stuff it in deep so the wind won't pull it out. Done. > >Fair winds, > >Judy B > >PS. If you looking for new sails, now is the best time to order them. The fall discount ends Dec 5th. After the holiday season, prices go up and lead times increase to 6-8 weeks. > >PPS. I didn't proof read this carefully, so I hope others will correct anything I wrote that's wrong. I'm not a certified sailing instructor, I just sail boats. > > >Judy Blumhorst >Hyde Sails USA, Northern California >judyb(a)hydesailsUSA.com >cell: 925.208.1692 >fax: 925.820.2327 >skype: judith.blumhorst >www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica > > > >________________________________ >From: Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 9:42 AM >Subject: M_Boats: cruisng chutes > > >I have been looking at the possibility of a Cruising Chute and found that almost all the discussions relate to 2 or more crew handling them. But these discussions seem to center on larger sailboats. >Does anyone have any 'real life' advice on the use of these single handed on an M17? >Joe >SeaFrog M17 >

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Re: M_Boats: M15 Gaff Cutter
by W David Scobie 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

the M15gc is doug kelch's 'seas the day'. i've attached a picture. there are also a few video's of doug doing sea trials and other things on youtube - http://www.youtube.com/user/dougkelch :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Mon, 11/7/11, Jeff Thorsett <jeff(a)thorsett.net> wrote: > Dave, > > That wasn't my M15. Mine is just old. > > Jeff Thorsett > M-15 #102 "Scamp" > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 5:21 PM, David Gilroy wrote: > > > Dear Jeff, > > > > Do you have a picture or a sail plan for your M-15 > gaff cutter? I just got a M-15 and this sounds awfully > interesting. > > > > Dave

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Re: M_Boats: wire to rope halyards
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Annapolis Performance Sailing Ltd. _www.apsltd.com_ (http://www.apsltd.com) they can do either wire to rope or nico press thimble to rope half/half type for you. Many have gone to full 'rope' halyards with the current crop of material available that is stronger and gentler than wire. Check for recommendations as to stretch, creep, and UV resistance. Good company - calling them right now for replacement inspection port. Have Fun, Go Sailing GO M-17 #316 'Ohhh Boy!'

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wire to rope halyards
by Tom Smith 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

Can anyone recommend a source? Thanks. t

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first sail of the Lake Pleasant AZ season
by Doug Kelch 08 Nov '11

08 Nov '11

The cool front finally came through and the temps dropped and the wind came up. Took "Seas the Day" ( M15 Gaff Cutter) out to play. The starting winds were 10 kts, gusting to 15 kts. By the end of the day the forecast proved correct and was blowing 15 kts, gusting to 25 kts. SWEET!!! By the end of the day I was down to a single reef in the main and just the staysail and still moving at hull speed. I got to play with all of the lines a couple of times :-) Thanks, Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" M15 G #310

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New to Montgomery
by David Gilroy 07 Nov '11

07 Nov '11

Hello all, I'm excited to be the new owner of a 1984 Montgomery 15. I live in East Granby, CT and usually sail out of Guilford on Long Island Sound. I have yet to get out for a sail but am hoping to be able sometime in October. Does anyone know if 1984 M-15's have steel ballast in the keel, and whether the centerboard is fiberglass. Mine is well and truly stuck in the up position despite a couple sessions of doing everything I could think of to lower it, and I'd like to understand better what I'm up against. Also, is it allowed to post a boat for sale in this group? (Not the M-15, but my last boat) Thanks very much. David Gilroy

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