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Little Breeze M15
by Michael Mann 18 Nov '15

18 Nov '15

Hi, My name is Michael Mann and in 1982, I sailed the Montgomery 15, Little Breeze from CA to Hawaii. I see on the web site that she has been rescued by new owners in Hawaii and I would love to correspond with them. I am currently sailing on a container ship headed for Honolulu and would welcome the chance to make contact. Thanks for any info. Michael Mann

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Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 15 Jul '13

15 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: racing my M23
by Larry E Yake 02 Apr '11

02 Apr '11

>So when is the next San Juan trip? Annual? Bi-annual? >Jeff Probably semi-annual. Larry

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Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Larry, I'm really sorry...I totally forgot that you did ask for that. I was supposed to shoot some pics for you of the halyard setup while in Monterey and did forget. I have not had the boat out of the garage and rigged since then. The mast remains in horizontal position diagonally across my garage so not a good place for a picture. This weekend I'm heading up to Alaska on vacation for the week. So it will be a couple of weeks before I have the opportunity to rig and launch...probably at Folsom. I'll take the picture at that time. Neil Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:19:26 -0700 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, did you have any photos of your mainsail halyard system that I could view? Thanks, -----Larry in old 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:16 AM To: ndorf(a)surfbest.net; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Thanks Neil. ----Larry Old M-15 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:58 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Larry, I'll get a few digital photos when I next rig in Monterey a week from today. Original Message: ----------------- From: Hughston, Larry Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:48:33 -0700 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Neil, where are you sailing these days? Can you post some images of the main sheet rig? ---Larry in Old M-15 hull 189 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of ndorf(a)surfbest.net Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:27 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Raising mainsheet block cleat for easier release Hi Gordon, On my 1985 M15, I have a swivel cam cleat with bullseye that, I don't know, may have been original equipment. The stainless plate to which both the cleat and bullseye are attached has bent down, resulting in more effort (more leaning down) to secure the mainsheet when I need to do so. I've bent the ss plate up a couple of times but you can only bend ss so much before it will break. For a visual, the my current hardware looks very much like the Harken model 240 (look on Defender). Rather than replace with a new 240, after talking with a Harken rep I have decided for the purposes you mentioned, to go with a combo ratchet block and angled cam swivel base. Prbably something like the Harken #1235 ratchet block attached to the #144 swivel cam cleat. This will should only provide a better angle of control for the skipper, but also more purchase in ratcheting in the main under sporting conditions and close points of sail. All it takes is money :-( What say the rest of you M15 sailors? Any other ideas? Neil / 1985 M15 / Roseville CA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft(r) Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange

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by Paul Vincent 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

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boom crutch
by Tom Jenkins 28 Oct '10

28 Oct '10

Hello out there, I am finally installing my IdaSailor adjustable boom crutch on my IdaSailor rudder, and the spacers do not seem big enough to clear the tubing from the hydraulic kickup ram on the port side (where the picture Bob sent me shows the unit mounted). If anyone out there has one of these units, could you tell me if your crutch is mounted on the opposite side from the ram? Maybe the rudders have changed since I got mine. Thanks, Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla

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Re: M_Boats: Center board bushing
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Great photos Robbin. Thanx much for sharing. sal In a message dated 10/24/2010 7:38:41 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, robbin.roddewig(a)verizon.net writes: So I have my 350lb center board hanging in the garage and have turned it a lovely color of blue with fairing compound, but I have a question about what looks like a fiber glass bushing that was in the pivot pin hole. I thought I was pounding out a metal bushing with my ratchet head but when part of the bushing came out it is definitely fiber of some sort. Anyone else ever see this on their center boards or know what the genesis is? Any advice on what to replace it with? I am thinking of trying to machine a metal replacement but would be fine with an easier solution. I will post some pictures for any of you that have an interest at http://picasaweb.google.com/110938325409185510143/M23?authkey=Gv1sRgCJqUgPz3 k7-WmQE# Thanks Robbin M23 (grounded), M10 Tonka _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Big waves on Lake Superior!
by Chris Smith 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

I've got a friend that went up there at 4 am this morning to surf them! I'll give an update with pictures when he gets back... On Oct 27, 2010 7:47 AM, "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> wrote: Gordon, Imagine the view from the lighthouse at Rock of Ages! I seen to recall that lighthouse is 130 ft. Remember seeing the picture at the ranger station at Windigo of waves crashing half way up it? It would be thrilling to see Superior in such an angry state, (from a safe location). 28.84 on my barometer in Mpls yesterday. I heard on the news the barometer was at 29.00 when the Edmond Fitzgerald went down off Whitefish point on Superior. Record low pressures here. Bones ____________________________________________________________ DEAL OF THE YEAR: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,734.09 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cc81eddcc3e445c843st03vuc _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo...

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Re: M_Boats: Big waves on Lake Superior!
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Oct '10

27 Oct '10

Gordon, Imagine the view from the lighthouse at Rock of Ages! I seen to recall that lighthouse is 130 ft. Remember seeing the picture at the ranger station at Windigo of waves crashing half way up it? It would be thrilling to see Superior in such an angry state, (from a safe location). 28.84 on my barometer in Mpls yesterday. I heard on the news the barometer was at 29.00 when the Edmond Fitzgerald went down off Whitefish point on Superior. Record low pressures here. Bones ____________________________________________________________ DEAL OF THE YEAR: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,734.09 SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% off! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4cc81eddcc3e445c843st03vuc

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Big waves on Lake Superior!
by Gordon Gilbert 26 Oct '10

26 Oct '10

Here's the point-and-click marine forecast for Rock of Ages, near Isle Royale on Lake Superior. Wednesday, 27-foot waves subsiding to 24 feet. I'm sure glad I'm not out there: forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=47.81315451752768&lon=-89.36279296875… Gordon M-17 Sapphire Milwaukee

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