January 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Pulling an M17 with a Subaru is workable if few grades
by David C. Patterson 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Larry, my Outback has a 4 cylinder, not super charged, and pulls the M17 fine. IF...the grade isn't too steep and I don't have to stop quickly. A tongue weight of 200 lbs, trailer weight of 2000 lbs (if memory serves), and a hitch rating of 3000lbs are what the 2006 Outback is rated for. Again, if memory serves. Not an ideal tow vehicle. But I am trapped east of the Divide with this vehicle, though I may try for Flaming Gorge through Wyoming this summer. Or maybe up to Lake Francis Case. I am seriously landlocked here in Colorado. As usual, getting the trailer to move is far easier than getting it to stop. My Subaru already had a substantial transmission cooler, stock, but I added a bigger one. I keep the brakes maintained. Someday I'll have a trailer with brakes, and a bigger tow vehicle. For now this gets me back and forth to the water, if I am careful. I opted for the boat over a bigger vehicle for the time being. The boat is more satisfying. Message: 7 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:36:25 -0800 From: "Hughston, Larry" <Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov> Subject: Re: M_Boats: 2008 Appreciation for the group To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <5EFE2F415E9DBE4FAABCC2040AC11AB704C09F43(a)smf00exch103.dgsaccounts.dgs.ca.go v> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" David, I am usually pretty much a quiet reader of the blogs on this Monty site. I have old hull number 189, Montgomery 15, now pretty much restored(1981, December, built by Jerry Montgomery). I am curious about the size of your Subaru engine?. I am pulling my m15 with a 1990 Camry Wagon, 4 cylinder. No guts but when I pull the M15 boat I am VERY smooth and slow and NEVER in overdrive! I would never chance a trip up the hill to Lake Tahoe for instance. I am amazed that you can pull an M17 with your Subaru. I did have my mechanic install a transmission cooler just for a little insurance. ----Thanks, Larry Hughston, Sacramento, CA -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David C. Patterson Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:04 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: 2008 Appreciation for the group 2008 was my novice sailing season, made very satisfying through help from this group, and from the msog.org site. Thank you all. I searched for my first boat over several years and decided on a Montgomery. In March I brought home a neglected 1985 M17 galley model from Texas to Colorado behind my Subaru wagon, right at the limit of its capacity. After a long process of getting the trailer titled and licensed (jeesh!)and repairing some necessary items (the mast compression post, for example) I got Cloud Girl, as she is now named, in the water at local Chatfield Reservoir in August. I sailed her through November. After some notable clumsiness (groundings, near knockdown in a cloudburst, etc.) I had a great first season of sailing, singlehanded, even getting the spinnaker up a few times. I had sixteen trips out, eight of which were overnight, for my goal is to learn to cruise, and mostly docked without using the outboard. I guess that I am no longer a complete novice. Maybe in 2009 I will actually go somewhere on by boat. I look forward to my 60's sailing. Again, thank you all, especially Tod Mills for his sharings as a singlehander, and Bob Eeg for his generosity with time and information. The best of the season to you all. David Patterson M17 #393 Cloud Girl _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 70, Issue 35 ************************************************

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M-17 for sale in Bay Area
by Michael Ray Wisely 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Hello everyone. I followed up a craigslist ad and recently received an email about an M-17 for sale. I don't know anything about the boat personally, but thought someone might be interested. He had some pictures in the email that you could probably ask him to send. Here is the ad. Hope everyone is well. Best Michael Ray Wisely Molly M. M-17 #383 Here is his email and address: zachary.carson(a)gmail.com Hey there, Here are some pictures of the 17' Montgomery that I am selling. I will be available to meet up over the next couple days. Please know that this boat does involve some work to make her looking pretty and ready to sail- * Woodwork and rutter needs sanding and refinishing * bottom needs painting (already sanded and ready for the paint, which I have) * new lines * interior needs cleaning As far as I know, center board drops down fine and pivot bolts look solid - the integrity of the boat is great trailer ready to ride Asking $4,000. offer trades if you got them. Please write back with inquires or appointments to see it. First come first serve, or the best story associated with your desire to sail her home. Cheers, Z

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Fwd: Coffee filters - are lint free
by Gary M Hyde 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

Might find a use on a boat. --Gary ☺ Begin forwarded message: > From: Bert Wight <wightdale(a)briskweb.net> > Date: January 1, 2009 6:02:55 PM PST > To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@smtpgate.yournetplus.com > Subject: Coffee filters - now I know, interesting - Bert > > > > > Coffee filters ..who knew! And you can buy 1,000 at the Dollar > Tree for almost nothing. > > COFFEE FILTERS: Not just for making coffee.... > > 1. Cover bowls or dishes when cooking in the microwave. > Coffee filters make excellent covers. > > > 2. Clean windows and mirrors. Coffee filters are > lint-free so they'll leave windows sparkling. > > > 3. Protect China > Separate your good dishes by putting a coffee filter between each > dish. > > > 4. Filter broken cork from wine. If you break the cork when opening > a wine bottle, filter the wine through a coffee filter. > > > 5. Protect a cast-iron skillet. Place a coffee filter in the > skillet to absorb moisture and prevent rust. > > > 6. Apply shoe polish. Ball up a lint-free coffee filter. > > > 7. Recycle frying oil. After frying, strain oil through a sieve > lined with a coffee filter. > > > 8. Weigh chopped foods. Place chopped ingredients in a coffee > filter on a kitchen scale. > > > 9. Hold tacos. Coffee filters make convenient wrappers for messy > foods. > > > 10. Stop the soil from leaking out of a plant pot. Line a plant pot > with a coffee filter to prevent the soil from going through the > drainage > holes. > > > 11. Prevent a Popsicle from dripping. Poke one or two holes as > needed in a coffee filter. > > > 12. Do you think we used expensive strips to wax eyebrows? Use > strips of coffee filters. > > > 13. Put a few in a plate and put your fried bacon, French fries, > chicken > fingers, etc on them. Soaks out all the grease. > > > 14. Keep in the bathroom. They make great "razor nick > fixers." > > > > > > > > >

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Chat this Saturday
by Frank Hagan 09 Jan '09

09 Jan '09

We're testing our chatroom on montgomeryowners.com, and would like to invite everyone to join us this Saturday, Jan. 10th, at 9 PM ET, 8 PM Central or 7 PM Pacific time. To reach our chatroom, go to http://montgomeryowners.com and click on the chat link. The direct URL is: http://montgomeryowners.com/pages/community/chat.php If any of you need access with a mobile device, let me know. I can create a "Lo-Fi" version of the page to avoid sideways scrolling.

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Life Seal as a bedding
by Flickasf＠aol.com 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

I highly recommen Life Seal for bedding, especially for metal to fiberglass. The marine metal fabrication shop near me swears by it. Bert Felton Zephyr, M-15,#365 ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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Another bedding-compound question
by Dan Richman 08 Jan '09

08 Jan '09

May I tap the wisdom of the group? On my new-to-me M17, I am replacing the ancient, crumbling teak pads under the bow red-and-green light and the stern white light. I'm not sure what substance to put between the deck and the bottom surface of the pads. I was thinking I'd use marine silicone, based on the 3M site's recommendations. But the discussion of butyl tape seemed to suggest that's not the best idea. I welcome informed opinions. Thanks! Dan Richman Shoreline, Wash. M17 #302--"Orli"

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Dinghy sale at West Marine
by Bill Day 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

West Marine has this blow up dinghy on sale. It's small, but looks strong, and looks like it would store in a small space. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/10001/-1/10001/… Bill Day M-15 363 Gee Whiz!

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Dinghy option
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Heck Gary, if I remember correctly, Corndog could tow me WITHOUT the aid of a powered kayak!!!! Seems like all I remember seeing of Larry was his transom!! hahaha :-) Sean **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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Dinghy option
by Larry E Yake 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Hey, if you're trying to figure out what to use for a dinghy on the San Juan or East Coast cruises, this ought to get you around the anchorage. ;-) http://spokane.craigslist.org/boa/981594682.html ____________________________________________________________ Click to get a free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PNO3y2Zithfk2ctcUU2XgU3h…

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Last Chance to Support our "Race for a Cure" !
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 07 Jan '09

07 Jan '09

Greetings WrinkleBoaters, and a Happy, Prosperous and Healthy New Year wish for you. Actually this is not the Last Chance, you may donate to the Leukemia Cup until the 16th of January, 2009! We are doing well but are not yet near our goal for donations. You can help get us to that goal!! NOW is the time get your commitment in and you can be a part of the Team Geezer Racing and Leukemia Cup Regatta for our third year in a row! Last year Jerry won the PHRF Non-Spinn Fleet Leukemia Cup Trophy! We plan on the same or better results this year, but we need your help to meet our fundraising goal! We have high expectations and have set high fundraising goals ('if you don't ask..') this year. With your help we can reach them! Please make this a part of your 'community service' for 2009! Jerry and I would appreciate it. Here is a Link to the donation page: _http://www.active.com/donate/leukemiacupdms/lcrGOberbe_ (http://www.active.com/donate/leukemiacupdms/lcrGOberbe) If you find it in your heart and wallet to support our bid - I will update the donors as to our fundraising AND race results as the Regatta happens. I will send out an e-mail to donors on Saturday AND Sunday evenings to update our results! Now that right there, and the fact that you get to see how much that ol' 'Geezer' Jerry M. donated, should be worth the price right there! LOL! ANY amount is appreciated! $5. $10, $11, $12, $1000! This is a worthy and noble cause - please help. The boat will be named "Saulo Morris" for this Leukemia Cup Regatta, in honor and memory of a brave and generous young man. Saulo lost his battle with Leukemia on Dec 2nd of 2008, but won the hearts of many who knew him and how he lived. _http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/02/20081202phxsaulo1203.htm… (http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/02/20081202phxsaulo1203.html) Please help! A hearty "Thank You" to those of you who have made such generous donations to date! Thank You! Team Geezer Racing...Old and In the Way Gary Oberbeck and Jerry Montgomery This is the Last Request for the 2009 Regatta! **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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