January 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: M-17 for sale in Bay Area
by Michael Ray Wisely 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hey David, I have not seen the boat in person. But I have seen some pics... As you know that does not tell the story. If you email the guy, I'm sure he would send you pics and you can find his email in the thread. I don't think he is a Sailor, just a seller. Best, Michael Ray Wisely M17 #383 Molly M.

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Re: M_Boats: M-17 in Bay Area for Sale
by Nick Cherau 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hi all, $3,000 for an M17 is almost too good to pass up, even for me and I live on the East coast Has no one in the area laid eyes on it yet? I'm almost crazy enough to jump in my van and haul ass out there on the chance that it is in good enough condition to buy it. Two things make me hesitate. One; possible serious repairs needed like deck rot and centerboard trunk, rusted ballast etc. Two; I think it's the 4 berth layout, would that be correct, a 1980 ? Bottom line is I don't really want a fixer upper, I want to sail and I'm willing to pay extra for that luxury. I guess I'm just tortured by the thought that this M17 might be the proverbial diamond in the rough. What happened to progress? I thought by now we'd have instant teleportation _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fair tide and a steady breeze, Nick Cherau Transitioning from a Nimble to a Monty

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Re: M_Boats: 9' sail boat
by Larry E Yake 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Any sailors in the northwest looking for a Ranger Minto? Here's a listing for one cheap. ($400) I don't think the owner knows what he has. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/988849914.html P.S. There's a rebuilt one, also in Kingston, for $2600! ____________________________________________________________ Get DVDs Delivered to your Door. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2o0FG0D7WlYCmj2BUm5mC64Q4…

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Trailer brakes
by David C. Patterson 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Ron, thanks for the trailer brake source. I hadn't looked at Eastern Marine. My trailer already has larger wheels, which will help. I enjoyed imaging you towing your former boat around Germany. Would you ever take a sailboat on the Danube? Anyway, I hope sometime I get to see Griselda. May we cross paths one day. I certainly look with longing at all the fresh and salt water in you corner of the world. Livingston and Sam Rayburn look huge compared to the pond I have been sailing in. David Patterson Cloud Girl M17 #393 Dave, A few years ago, I installed trailer brakes on my trailer for a Slipper 17 that I was towing behind a 4 cylinder Volvo. The boat was of similar size and weight to the M17. I bought my brake kit from Eastern marine and it was easy to install and setup. I was much more comfortable towing after installing the brakes. The ones for my Slipper were drum and were still working perfectly when I sold the boat before moving to Germany. The 20 foot pilot house power cruiser I had in Germany weighed about 4,000 pounds on the trailer and I towed it behind a 4 cylinder turbo deised VW mini van. The road from my houise to Keilheim, where I had a slip, was very hilly country and I was so glad to have the 4 wheel trailer brakes; especially on the long winding switchback road down into the Donau (Danube) river valley. I am plannng to put hydraulic surge disc brakes on the trailer for my M17 and have been looking at the hydraulic disc brake kit ($389.95) from eastern marine www.easternmarine.com as well as a dropped axel to put the trailer lower to the road. The kit does require going to 14" wheels which I have already done. Another great accessory I have is a sliding extension tongue. Griselda, my M17, is one of the rare fin keel models and really has to go deep to launch it. I tow with a 2006 Pontiac Torret (Chevy Eqinox twin) with a 3.4 L V6 and 5 speed automatic transmission. The car is rated for 3500 pounds and tows Griselda or my 20 foot pontoon boat at highway speeds over any terrain at the legal speed limit. The pontoon trailer has brakes and I do miss them when towing Griselda. Ron M17, #14, Griselda Lake Livingston, Texas ************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: M-17 in Bay Area for Sale
by Michael Ray Wisely 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Hello to all, The guy who is selling this boat just dropped the price to $3000 with trailer. Read Below: Boat is now priced at $3000 - and that includes the trailer! Thanks, Z This Could be a good deal for someone looking. I took the Molly M. out this evening... The SF Bay was like summer this evening...except the wind was very light. Temperature was about 70 degrees...unbelievable sunset. I'm glad I decided to leave her in this winter. Best, Michael Ray M-17 #383 Molly M.

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"Owner's Pages" Now Available
by Frank Hagan 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

MontgomeryOwners.com is now testing our "Owner's Pages" concept, "mini websites" available for Montgomery owners who want to create and maintain a few web pages about their boat without having to maintain their own website. Details are at http://montgomeryowners.com (click the "Owner's Pages" link). The on-line editor lets you cut and paste from Word, or create the pages on-line in your browser in a "WYSIWYG" format ... no HTML coding is required. Its an easy way to create web pages, and might be just the thing to avoid the winter doldrums! Our first chat session looked like it was a success; even though I actually missed it! My wife is recovering from cancer surgery, and she was having a good day Saturday so we celebrated by going to dinner. I'm a bad webhost, but an OK husband in her book. The chat log is available for everyone to read in our Forums, or at the http://meebo.com site (search for "Montgomery Owners" chat room).

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9' sail boat
by Larry E Yake 13 Jan '09

13 Jan '09

Any sailors in the northwest looking for a Ranger Minto? Here's a listing for one cheap. I don't think the owner knows what he has. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/988849914.html ____________________________________________________________ Click for an accredited Life Experience Degree in 5 days, make up to $150k. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1UmEsoEsjKJTJYRiSvDYg8iGl…

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Trailer brakes
by David C. Patterson 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

Gary, thanks for the note about your towing. I am looking into trailer brakes, of course, and do wish I had a more powerful engine. I will not be crossing any high passes, like those in Colorado, with my current vehicle. I can get back and forth to the reservoir (Chatfield, south of Denver) I sailed on last year, pretty workably. But I am hemmed in to the west by the Rockies, as I mentioned. Most of the season all I must do is two flat miles from the yard to the ramp. (I do like the 4 wheel drive at the ramp. I watch huge pickups spin their wheels with small boats.) There is probably a used V6 vehicle of some kind in my future. May the sailing season start soon. Still, though, my off-season list for my old boat is pretty long, now including bow chocks, sail battens, trailer winch cable, trailer keel roller, check valves for cockpit drains, running light replacement (though no battery yet), some other sail repair, galley pump replacement, etc., etc. I think the cosmetics will have to wait. As one sailor in the northwest puts the steps: 1) safe boat, 2) comfortable boat, 3) pretty boat. Clearly I am still working on the safe boat step. Most of which actually depends on me getting more sailing experience. On to season two's sailing. Again, thanks to all on the list. David Patterson Cloud Girl 1985 M17 #393 galley model ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:31:24 -0800 From: Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pulling an M17 with a Subaru is workable if few grades To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <811F3BCB-AC24-4366-8057-02E4D5CE72CA(a)mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I pull my M17 with a turbo Subaru Forester and have surge disk brakes on the trailer. It works very well, even crossing the Cascade mountains. But I wouldn't tow it without the trailer brakes. They were a $500 add on, I think. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 71, Issue 10 ************************************************

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wire size - M15 shrouds
by Doug Kelch 12 Jan '09

12 Jan '09

What is the wire size for the M15 shrouds? I bought a new set from Jerry last year and I need to shorten them - what size oval sleeves? 1/8? Thanks Doug Kelch

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Last sail of 2008 video
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 10 Jan '09

10 Jan '09

Was fortunate enough to make the last sail of the year yesterday. Light winds but fun nonetheless. Been playing around with my new toy....a video camera that Jo got me for Christmas....so....Here's a link to the "Last Sail of 2008". :-) S _http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=41539524&cr=1_ (http://www.quicktopic.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?link=http://havasumontgomerys.pi… =246167730.4) **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026)

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