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Re: M_Boats: Forward Hatch in an M15
by chbenneck＠juno.com 18 Mar '06

18 Mar '06

Hi Rick, When I mounted the NICRO vent on the M15 foredeck, I had to install the NICRO vent flange on a teak ring. The deck camber problem was solved easily - with a bit of elbow grease - by putting the teak ring on a sheet of 80 grit sandpaper that lay on the deck. Straight line fore and aft movement of the teak ring on the sandpaper produced the matching curvature. Then it was just a matter of bedding the teak ring, and using the fasteners of the NICRO vent flange to secure everything in place. Or, if you want to install the 12 x 12 hatch, scribe a teak piece to fit the curvature of the deck. Connie

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Forward Hatch in an M15
by Rick Langer 18 Mar '06

18 Mar '06

Thanks Guys and Gal, Your comments on my hatch project are appreciated. The camber issue on the M15 foredeck is minimal. Athwardships the change is about 1/4" for a 12"x12" frame. Fore and aft the deck is flat. I figure I can build a shim from some plastic sheeting like Starboard. I was considering mounting a small rectangular portlight on the front sloping bulkhead of the cabin, much like a Potter 15. This surface has a lot of camber and building a shim for it would be more difficult and more likely to leak. Between the slope, which would make the portlight a water catcher, the extreme camber and the fear of weakening the mast step, I abandoned this idea. Putting ports of the cabin sides just forward of the stock fixed lights was my first choice, but they would end up directly in line with the mast. Jerry, if you're out there, I'd like to hear your reaction to cutting holes in this part of the boat. Once when I was deliberating cutting another hole in my boat, Connie said to me, "It's only a boat". He's right, but cutting under the mast step is a bit scary. If the mast step ended up needing the support of a compression post it would ruin the interior of the M15. I think that in terms of ventilation the forward deck hatch is the best of the three alternatives. However, my tests show that any thoughts of sticking ones head out such a hatch would be a most difficult yoga pose at best. And if you did get your head out getting it back would be even more difficult. Given a 9"x9" opening, my head barely fits through and that's without the body contortions. I'll keep the list posted. Rick Langer

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BCC Brochure Published
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 18 Mar '06

18 Mar '06

I got the BCC Brochure just a bit ago and posted it on the PDF Download Page under the Hess/Montgomery Designs section. Best way to find it is go to "What's New" and then click on the link to the brochure page. Sumio Oya is looking for a good copy of the Falmouth Cutter as well. Bill [_www.MSOGPhotoSite.com_ (http://www.MSOGPhotoSite.com) ]

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RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art
by Shawn Boles 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Ash Grey is the sailor's way cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+shawn=ori.org@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:23 PM To: Thomas(a)TEHowe.com; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art Ash Grey, Yes... for all those who are color blind. Just my 3 cents, from a heretic! ---L. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Howe Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:17 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art The one True color for t-shirts is ash grey. Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic! -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phipps Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art Oh, red is the ONLY way to go... On 3/17/06, Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> wrote: > > No, I prefer Pacific Blue. > --Gary > On Mar 17, 2006, at 4:03 AM, LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Bill > > The best tee shirt color is black. > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boat > > s > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art
by Hughston, Larry 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Ash Grey, Yes... for all those who are color blind. Just my 3 cents, from a heretic! ---L. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmiss ion.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Howe Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:17 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art The one True color for t-shirts is ash grey. Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic! -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jack Phipps Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:31 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art Oh, red is the ONLY way to go... On 3/17/06, Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> wrote: > > No, I prefer Pacific Blue. > --Gary > On Mar 17, 2006, at 4:03 AM, LUDLOWD2(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Bill > > The best tee shirt color is black. > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boat > > s > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Bill The best tee shirt color is black. Don

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RE: M_Boats: T-Shirt Art
by Tom Smith 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

Why would anyone want a t-shirt with anything other than an M17 on it? /)) Tom Smith & Jane VanWinkle M17/496 & M17/064

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T-Shirt Art
by David W. Wood 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

What, you guys think this is a democracy? You'll get the color I choose and you will be happy with it! Uh, unless Sean tells me where to stuff my color... David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Re: M_Boats: Forward Hatch in an M15
by Harvey G Wilson 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

>> however the front hinged hatch does give one a better view of the stars while laying down.<< It also will not blow open when trailering... Harvey/ Ga

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Forward Hatch in an M15
by Rick Langer 17 Mar '06

17 Mar '06

I'm planning to install a 12"x12" (9"x9" cutout) hatch in the forward deck right in front of the cabin. My intent is to increase ventilation through the cabin. I have considered a Nicro type vent, but prefer a passive, no noise option. I don't think a cowl or dorade box will work well because the deck is very small. I also considered cutting a port or two into the cabin sides, but nixed that being worried I'd weaken the roof/mast step. So it seems a low profile hatch is the best solution. My question is, "Which way should I orient it?". My first thought is to have the lid open towards the mast. This way, at anchor, the lid would direct a breeze down the hatch. However, I've seen some hatches mounted the other way like on an M17. What's the advantage of this orientation? Thanks, Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird

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