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Re: M_Boats: New on Photo Site...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

In a message dated 9/26/2005 8:25:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, Larry.Hughston(a)dgs.ca.gov writes: Bill, great job. I know what you mean about too much sun...your project makes some nice shade. Hull M-15 #189 -----L.H. Hi Larry, Just a note, I know you are aware, the cockpit shade isn't mine, but Steve Shenkels. Steve has been kind enough to us all, by sending me CD's of his changes and improvements he's making to his newly acquired M-17. I have a series of his ,before shots, when he purchased her, that I'll one day put on the Photo Site. But, only after Steve does the after shots for me, when he gets her all spiffed up... Because of other commitments, Steve wont be able to do the heavy work until sometime next year. Until then he's doing other small projects By the way, Steve is the person who provided us with all of the "Montgomery Brochures" that are posted on the Photo Site. I think he's a collector. Must have a big garage/storage building. "Just kidding". Bill www.MSOG.funtigo.com

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RE: M_Boats: New on Photo Site...
by Hughston, Larry 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Bill, great job. I know what you mean about too much sun...your project makes some nice shade. Hull M-15 #189 -----L.H. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+larry.hughston=dgs.ca.gov@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of BILLAMICASR(a)aol.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 5:28 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: New on Photo Site... Just finished a short album of Steve Shenkel's Arizona Screen Room cockpit enclosure. http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=286050&c=1789789&p=start&cr=1 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type?
by Woodsybill＠aol.com 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Hello, what's wrong with good grade 2X6 Douglas fir, painted with oil based paint and covered with carpet? Once hunkered down on supports for a time, they develop their own curve--almost. I remove them ocasionally when cleaning the hull and applying anti foul paint. Certainly, before removal, the hull is propped and raised with four adjustable stands--The two forward stands within the trailer and the two aft outside the trailer. Works for me. Bill K. M-17 half Monty

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Bunk Boards: wood type?
by B. Mayer 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

I thought Trex was pretty flexible. Maybe on bunkboards that's okay, but it would limit its other uses. Bobbie

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RV: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type?
by Carlos Albar-Díaz 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Bill, Note that these "wood-plastic composites" (aka WPC) such as Trex's product contain wood particles that DO rot if the manufacturer did not add the right amount of biocide. Louisiana Pacific's "Weatherbest" is one of the products that contain the right amount of effective but benign biocides and comes out at the top in the durability tests I have seen. Carlos M-17 #348 -----Mensaje original----- De: montgomery_boats-bounces+carlos.albar-diaz=alumni.haas.org(a)mailman.xmission. com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+carlos.albar-diaz=alumni.haas.org@mailman.x mission.com] En nombre de George Burmeyer Enviado el: Sunday, September 25, 2005 9:34 AM Para: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Asunto: Re: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type? Bill, I think you may be referring to a material called "Trex" (there are other brands as well) made of recycled plastic material. Virtually indestructible, can't rot, withstands weather very well. The main drawback with this stuff for trailer bunks is that it has poor stiffness when laid flat. When used in deck construction, A 2 X 6 has to be supported over less than two-foot centers or it sags noticeably. An unsupported section might flop around like a noodle in a trailer application. If you could add more supports to your trailer, it might work okay, but I'm not sure it would be worth that extra expense/trouble. The second (third?) growth redwood you get these days is often brittle and prone to splitting when stressed. IMHO, foundation grade pressure-treated pine or fir would probably be your best bet. It's ugly, but you're going to be covering it with carpet anyway. George M15 #385 On Sep 24, 2005, at 8:50 AM, BILLAMICASR(a)aol.com wrote: > > > I've been seeing the "wood replacement" (cant recall the brand name > - made > from old milk jugs) that's being sold at home centers to do decks, > underlayment > and lots of other projects. I wonder if it could be used... > certainly no > chance of rot. > > Bill www.msog.funtigo.com > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RV: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type?
by Carlos Albar-Díaz 26 Sep '05

26 Sep '05

Bill, If you want to use pressure treated wood you may want to consider that sodium borate, as used in Osmose's "Advance Guard" pressure-treated wood, is both benign from a health standpoint and effective in the absence of water, but will leach out of the wood when submerged in water. You may want to consider treated wood specified for "below ground" use treated with a biocide (ACQ, copper azole) that will not leach out as much. Look for brands "Preserve", "NatureWood", and "Natural Select". You may want to be sure that you do not use wood treated with CCA (copper-chrome-arsenic) that is being phased out of most applications because of toxicity concerns. Carlos M-17 #348 -----Mensaje original----- De: montgomery_boats-bounces+carlos.albar-diaz=alumni.haas.org(a)mailman.xmission. com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+carlos.albar-diaz=alumni.haas.org@mailman.x mission.com] En nombre de Wcpritchett(a)aol.com Enviado el: Saturday, September 24, 2005 6:43 AM Para: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Asunto: Re: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type? I replace trailer bunks with pressure treated wood. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type?
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

In a message dated 9/25/2005 9:38:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, gburmeyer(a)mac.com writes: I think you may be referring to a material called "Trex" Thanks George, Yep, Trex it is. I recently did a small wood project and saw the Trex at the lumber store in lots of shapes and sizes. What a great use for land fill plastics. Termites will have to move back to the forests if this trend keeps up. Bill

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Re: M_Boats: Bunk Boards: wood type?
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

In a message dated 9/24/2005 6:38:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, htmills(a)bright.net writes: Time to replace Busca's trailer bunk boards. Anyone know what wood is best for this application? Hi Tod, Recently did an album of Randy Graves and his new Board work. http://www.funtigo.com/MSOG?b=275849&c=1789789&p=start&cr=1 Randy says... "We used 2' x 6" x 10' clear redwood (Home Depot) boards to re-create the bunks and purchased from a Marine supplier, carpet designed for trailer bunks. It comes 11" wide, in various colors, and is sold by the foot or in pre-sized rolls. From a tip on the MSOG list I also added a layer of 1/2 closed cell foam between the bunks boards and the carpet. This is to help the lapstrake make better contact against the bunks. Stainless steel stapes were used to attach the foam and carpet to the bunks and the holes that the bolts go through to attach the bunks to the supports were countersunk." I've been seeing the "wood replacement" (cant recall the brand name - made from old milk jugs) that's being sold at home centers to do decks, underlayment and lots of other projects. I wonder if it could be used... certainly no chance of rot. Bill www.msog.funtigo.com

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Re: M_Boats: New Guy
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Hi John Welcome Aboard. I sail Sweet Dream (M15 # 620) out of Mobile Bay. I've always wanted to haul her to Maryland and sail the Big Bay. Anytime you have a question on parts or rigging, someone on the board can help. Don

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New Stuff
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 24 Sep '05

24 Sep '05

Hi All, Finally got "Busca Brisas" in an album. Also a solution on an M-15 removeable galley. Look for the red word "New" on the site Also, you'll notice some changes. First, Funtigo has been working on making the site more efficient. Now, that doesn't mean it's friendly to everyone, but it's working better. Also, I've found if I make all the backgrounds the same, reduce the size of the headings and get rid of the twirling arrows, strange fonts and the fluff, the site responds much better. I'm redoing all of the file sizes of the pictures. Not to reduce quality, but to improve the upload time it takes to view a site. You may have noticed this change on the past few, new albums. Enjoy the photos. Bill www.MSOG,funtigo.com

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