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RE: M_Boats:
by Morris, Giles 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

It's so. Well... I feel bad about having such a beautiful little ship used so little -- she hasn't been in the water since the Georgian Bay trip last year. There's a touring kayak too, that hasn't been in the water for far too long -- but two more folding kayaks that I have no intention of selling. The whitewater boat was e-Bayed without regret (I found out that I don't mind waves but prefer that they not have rocks in them). It's not that I don't get on the water, though. It's a rare weekend that I'm not aboard Dolphin for at least a short while. And of course this list is the best sailing discussion group that I know, so I have no intention of leaving. Should I paint lapstrake on Dolphin, I wonder? Anyway, we'll see what happens. -----Original Message----- From: Honshells [mailto:chonshell@ia4u.net] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:59 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Say it ain't so, Giles . . . Say it ain't so . . . Hope you stay with the list . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: Morris, Giles <mailto:giles.morris@unisys.com> To: 'For and about <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: I just added this to the boats for sale database. The first sentence says it all. Montgomery 15, 1983 I have mixed feelings about this, but there are two sailboats in my life, and only time for one of them. So... it's time to pass Umiaq on to somebody who will use her more. She is a 1983 Montgomery 15. Blue sheer stripe, pulpit, control lines led aft, nav lights, topping lift, Anchor, chain and rode. Main, jib and spinnaker (spinnaker looks unused). Centerboard replaced recently. The trailer was completely restored recently with many new parts. Sunbrella sail and tiller covers. Searching for Umiaq in the archives will tell you more about her and there is more information on my web site at http://www.angelfire.com/art/2by4/Boats/index.html <http://www.angelfire.com/art/2by4/Boats/index.html> . The engine is a 5HP Honda outboard that I bought new, but if this is too big then I would be willing to sell the boat without the engine. A fair price for the boat alone would be $3500, and $900 for the engine. Umiaq is on her trailer in my driveway in Arlington VA (Suburban Washington DC). If you're interested and would like pictures, I can take some and e-mail them. Giles Morris <mailto:Giles.Morris@unisys.com> Giles.Morris(a)unisys.com

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Older M17 Skeg Measurement
by Honshells 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

As I write I'm about 90 miles from where I keep my '84 M17. Do any of you owners of older M17's know the width of the skeg, both at the very bottom and up where it meets the hull (I know it slants upward in a v-shape)?

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Sequencing query
by s.mcclellan＠comcast.net 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

No kickup rudder??? What was the thinking behind *that* change? If it were me, Sandy, I'd think about getting one. Might make your life a LOT easier. I know from my own experience, when I have forgotten to put the rudder on before launching, it can be a real pain to put it on once you are in the water. -- Steve McClellan~~M15~#152~~Chicago > Hi all, > Thanks to all of you who so graciously shared your information with me. > Yes, I am the Sandra who is in Dalton, GA and I have a newer M15. My > rudder is not the kick up type which would probably be less of a > problem if it was. I have a 2 hp Honda and if you are familiar with it > you know that to reverse you have to 180 the motor once started, and if > it starts on the first pull, and you have managed to get the rudder > mounted without too much problem, you might be ok. However, if any of > the above cause difficulty, you find yourself drifting up on the rocks. > Low water is certainly not our problem around here these days. The > challenge is to find the dock which is underwater at some of the > launching areas. > > ===== > Time for a cool change! > Sandra > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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by Morris, Giles 15 Jul '03

15 Jul '03

I just added this to the boats for sale database. The first sentence says it all. Montgomery 15, 1983 I have mixed feelings about this, but there are two sailboats in my life, and only time for one of them. So... it's time to pass Umiaq on to somebody who will use her more. She is a 1983 Montgomery 15. Blue sheer stripe, pulpit, control lines led aft, nav lights, topping lift, Anchor, chain and rode. Main, jib and spinnaker (spinnaker looks unused). Centerboard replaced recently. The trailer was completely restored recently with many new parts. Sunbrella sail and tiller covers. Searching for Umiaq in the archives will tell you more about her and there is more information on my web site at http://www.angelfire.com/art/2by4/Boats/index.html <http://www.angelfire.com/art/2by4/Boats/index.html> . The engine is a 5HP Honda outboard that I bought new, but if this is too big then I would be willing to sell the boat without the engine. A fair price for the boat alone would be $3500, and $900 for the engine. Umiaq is on her trailer in my driveway in Arlington VA (Suburban Washington DC). If you're interested and would like pictures, I can take some and e-mail them. Giles Morris <mailto:Giles.Morris@unisys.com> Giles.Morris(a)unisys.com [Giles]

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RE: M_Boats: Fern Ridge get Together?
by Shawn Boles 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Hi All: Let's try for the 26th. Perhaps John Edwards and 'Miss T' can join us. Also, anyone know who is owner of the M17 with Colorado marine decal at Fern Ridge on E dock? cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Roberta Dvorscak [mailto:edarts93@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:18 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: Fern Ridge get Together? Hi Shawn, Count us in. The weekend of July 26 is good for us. We'll probably be there on all those weekends but Roberta has wedding cakes to deliver and set up on Aug 2 and 9 so we would only sail on those evenings. We've been wondering when we would see you (we've visited with Grey Mist though). I'll be on the lake this weekend (our sailing club is having a "race" Saturday afternoon). Grace won't be racing (I'm using my old dingy for that) but she will be going out for a moonlight sail. See you soon. Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 Grace -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Boles Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:03 AM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: Fern Ridge get Together? Anybody interested in a get together at Fern Ridge this summer? The lake may be drained next year for dam repairs and it seems a shame not to take advantage of it this year. I am traveling more than I had anticipated but could do something the weekends of 7/26, 8/2, 8/9, 8/23, 8/30. I can count 3 M17s and at least 2 M15s on just the D & E docks.... cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978)

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RE: M_Boats: Re: Sequencing query
by Smith, Tom 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Well, this won't be the first time I do something differently than everyone else. I keep my boat in the water most of the time in the summer, but those times it goes in and out, I always install the rudder after the boat's in the water (and take it off before it comes out). And you know what? I don't have a real good reason to do so except I fear damage to the thing in either up or down position. I don't find it hard to install the rudder when the boat's in the water, maybe because I'm used to it--I stow my rudder after each outing, which has paid off, since I last varnished it two years ago and it still looks great. Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Seawitch [mailto:seawitchlj@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:17 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Re: Sequencing query Hi all, Thanks to all of you who so graciously shared your information with me. Yes, I am the Sandra who is in Dalton, GA and I have a newer M15. My rudder is not the kick up type which would probably be less of a problem if it was. I have a 2 hp Honda and if you are familiar with it you know that to reverse you have to 180 the motor once started, and if it starts on the first pull, and you have managed to get the rudder mounted without too much problem, you might be ok. However, if any of the above cause difficulty, you find yourself drifting up on the rocks. Low water is certainly not our problem around here these days. The challenge is to find the dock which is underwater at some of the launching areas. ===== Time for a cool change! Sandra __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses.

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M15
by Richard Cottrell 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

I believe the Montgomery boat which sailed to Hawaii was an M15. I'm not aware of a 17. Regarding sailing conditions for the M15. This morning I sailed "Really" from Coyote Point to Redwood City. This is a 14 mile trip on San Francisco Bay. There's a high pressure area to the southeast which was supposed to make this a most pleasant warm weather sailing experience because of a flood tide with 2.5 knots under the San Mateo Bridge. However, a new weather report had small craft warnings for the bay in the afternoon. There was fog off to the northwest. I left at 9am with 12 knot winds out of the nnw. And big wave action. It must have been blowing last night. I sailed with a 36sf, 4.5 ounce jib and a full main. I was flying. Once I got under the San Mateo bridge it became pleasant but at about 10:45am it started blowing over 15+ knots. Because of the wave action I put one reef in the main. It wasn't enough. I lowered the jib and sailed under control to the Redwood Creek launch ramp. I consider San Francisco Bay a marginal place to sail the M15 under these conditions because of all the variables and being on big water with no assistance nearby. For many years I sailed a Pearson Electric and a Cal 20 in the same area and I had few concerns because of the deeper keels and being heavier boats. Now - it's different. You have to realize your limitations and the boats limitations. Rich Cottrell M15

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Varnish
by Thomas Wilkinson 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

I finally tired of oiling my external teak. It had to be done frequently and I really didn't think it was protecting the wood. I cleaned all the oil and crud off the teak and decided to varnish it. I decided to use Le Tonkinois varnish because of the claimed ease of use. It was easy to apply and looks good. It does not change the color of the wood. I guess now the test is its durability. Does anyone else have experience with Le Tonkinois? Tom M17 Obsessus

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Re: Sequencing query
by Seawitch 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

Hi all, Thanks to all of you who so graciously shared your information with me. Yes, I am the Sandra who is in Dalton, GA and I have a newer M15. My rudder is not the kick up type which would probably be less of a problem if it was. I have a 2 hp Honda and if you are familiar with it you know that to reverse you have to 180 the motor once started, and if it starts on the first pull, and you have managed to get the rudder mounted without too much problem, you might be ok. However, if any of the above cause difficulty, you find yourself drifting up on the rocks. Low water is certainly not our problem around here these days. The challenge is to find the dock which is underwater at some of the launching areas. ===== Time for a cool change! Sandra __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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RE: M_Boats: Sealanr Recomendations
by Morris, Giles 14 Jul '03

14 Jul '03

>sealing the centerboard pivot pin I used a little epoxy resin to cover over each end. Giles Morris

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