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Personal Condolences
by Doug King 26 Mar '03

26 Mar '03

You can send a message to the Kidd family at jk(a)yosemite.net .

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Re: M_Boats Sadhana
by Michael L Bowden 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Hello Rich, That is indeed the boat that I am sailing. I have enjoyed one season with her so far and looking forward to many more. Quite the difference between the M17 and M23. I love them both. spring is here in Minnesota. Bones ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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by Jeff Flancer 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Hi all, This is Jeff in Phoenix with an M-15 for sale. It is listed on the boats for sale page of the site. Thanks to all who write regularly and supply such valuable info on boat tips and tales. It has been great to be a part of this forum.

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Michael L Bowden 22 Mar '03

22 Mar '03

Hello Richard! I'm still thrilled with your old M23! How's the Nonsuch? Bones ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Michael L Bowden 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

Hi Scott, My M23 has a custom interior. I do not have the fiberglass drop in liner, the interior was all done in wood with a wood sole. The V berth is larger and I have a hidded porta-potty instead of the normal head. Thus, the head area ia all part of the V berth. There is room for two comfortably. You are correct in that I cannot stand upright when down below, but, I don't think I could in a Flicka either. We all like to sail a boat that has some performance, in that area the M23 really shines. Com-on spring. Bones ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

In a message dated 3/20/03 5:12:41 PM, rqlhgl(a)ieee.org writes: >Scott,I believe the other three you mention also have outboard rudders. >Dick The Dana does not. Scott

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Re: M_Boats: Hardware Mounting / Level
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

In a message dated 3/19/03 5:46:37 PM, chonshell(a)ia4u.net writes: >Thanks for your posts, Scott. I'm disappointed no one has circumnavigated >in a Flicka, but at least there's >the dream that you "could" . . . :-) Eventually I'll get around to buying >the book about Kowabunga's >travels . . . --Craig I've read Charlie Dewell's book (Kawabunga's South Seas Adventure). I think it gives you a decent idea of what voyaging on a Flicka would be like. He is relatively candid about the shortcomings of small boat cruising. I had the opportunity to meet/talk to him several years ago. Last I heard, he and his wife were still living on their Flicka in Marina Del Rey, CA. Scott

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

In a message dated 3/19/03 4:46:46 PM, htmills(a)bright.net writes: >Hi, Scott > >Wow, I didn't know that no Flicka has yet managed a circumnavigation. As > >long as the >boat's been around (late 70's?) you'd think someone would have done it. > >Tod Yes, I was surprised too. I have three friends with Flicka's, and have logged a fair amount of time on them. The boat is certainly capable of circumnavigating. Indeed, the fact that one hasn't has been a topic of some discussion on the Flicka group. One has to remember that the Flicka has a waterline length of just over 18", a bluff bow, and a lot of wetted area. Furthermore, it is relatively undercanvased for a boat of its displacement (5500-6000lbs depending on configuration/power). It is not a high performance boat, and is somewhat idiosyncratic in its handling. I think that if I were thinking about a circumnavigation, I would probably lean toward a Nor'Sea 27. Apparently others have done just that, as I believe several have closed the circle. Don't get me wrong, I love the boat. My selection matrix hasn't changed in the last ten years (Flicka, Dana, Falmouth Cutter, and NorSea 27), and in spite of the more generous accommodations and markedly better performance of the alternatives, I will probably end up with a Flicka someday. I like the stubby aesthetics, outboard rudder, standing headroom, palatial (for a boat 20' on deck) interior, and the build quality. I like the removable cockpit sole for access to the engine (inboard version), and the fact that it is much easier to tow than the other boats mentioned. I especially like the fact that it fits in a 25' slip, as there are very long waiting lists for longer slips in both Santa Cruz and Monterey, CA. For now, I will enjoy sailing on my friend's Flicka and keep the M15. There is something nice about having the boat in my garage, and I don't plan to circumnavigate any time soon. Alaska is calling, however. Scott

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

In a message dated 3/19/03 6:55:17 PM, bownez(a)juno.com writes: >Scott, > >I looked at two Flickas and decided they were too heavy for the >conditions I would be sailing in, and too small for my long lanky body. >I was lucky enough to score a M23 with suits my comfort and sailing needs >perfectly. > >Bones Bones, I am surprised that you found the M23 more comfortable. I looked at one, but found the v-berth too narrow to be a true double, and missed the headroom of the Flicka. On the other hand, that fine entry is part of what makes the boat fast. I am with you on the weight issue, however. If I were not considering offshore sailing, I would think the M23 would be an excellent choice. The new M23 looks very nice, but alas, is out of my budget. Scott

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Re: M_Boats: Flicka
by Michael L Bowden 20 Mar '03

20 Mar '03

Scott, I looked at two Flickas and decided they were too heavy for the conditions I would be sailing in, and too small for my long lanky body. I was lucky enough to score a M23 with suits my comfort and sailing needs perfectly. Bones ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

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