June 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Hi. My name is Mike
by Honshells 11 Jun '02

11 Jun '02

John, Are you saying you couldn't find anything out about the Seafarer 22', or about the boat in Tucson, specifically? I found the following websites on Google: http://home.att.net/~seafareryachts/history.htm http://www.marinersguide.com/dockswap/chesapeakebay/messages/310.html http://www.sailboatspecs.com/xq/ASP/boatId.23287/boatMaker.Seafarer/boatLen… --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jslubliner(a)aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 12:15 PM Subject: Hi. My name is Mike Mike @ Lake Michigan - You mentioned Seafarer 22. There is one for sale not far from me here in Tucson. I have a friend interested but we can find out nothing about this boat. It does not even seem to have a California PHRF number. I don't want to waste a lot of air time for the list, but if you would contact me directly, would like to have a conversation and some information if you have some. Thanks, John in Tucson

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Re: M_Boats: Hi. My name is Mike
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 11 Jun '02

11 Jun '02

Mike @ Lake Michigan - You mentioned Seafarer 22. There is one for sale not far from me here in Tucson. I have a friend interested but we can find out nothing about this boat. It does not even seem to have a California PHRF number. I don't want to waste a lot of air time for the list, but if you would contact me directly, would like to have a conversation and some information if you have some. Thanks, John in Tucson

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Re: M_Boats: Hi. My name is Mike
by s.mcclellan＠attbi.com 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

Mike, Hi! At LAST another M-boater (at least prospectively) to share Lake Michigan with! Its kind of a big lake for me to take care of all by myself. I'm down here in Evanston. I've only had my 1981 M15 since last winter--had her out twice so far. Still working on fixing up a few things. She was evidently pretty neglected for some years. If you're looking for a used M17, there used to be one at a marina up in Door County for a good price (not sure of it's condition). Wonder if it's still there. O -------(\_----------(\_--------- ~ ~ (\_ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Steve McClellan~~M15~#152~~Chicago > Hi all you MSOG subscribers. The subscription page suggests I do this, > so I will. I've sailed on and off for over 20 years. Way too much "off," > as I have recently realized that in my 53 years, that I have had a > cruising boat in the water for only 3 1/2 seasons, plus quite a bit of > daysailing. I started noticing the M-17 sometime in the mid seventies > while sailing a Seafarer 22 in Milwaukee. I'm considering getting a used > M-17 next year. Buying used will make it more possible to eventually > afford the magnificent M-23 Cutter. I currently live in Waukegan, IL. > I'm looking forward to being part of this group. > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Main Sheet Leads M15
by Smith, Tom 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

I trim my mainsheet frequently, especially in gusty conditions where I prefer not to point up and luff but rather ease then harden the sheet. Thus mainsheet control on the transom would be very inconvenient for me. Are you saying handling the main and steering is not more difficult with this arrangement? How so? Isn't there a certain amount of reaching across, or backward handedness to this setup? How did you solve this problem? Tom Smith Itron Inc. Phone: 509-928-1707 ext. 248 Fax: 509-928-2581 E-mail: tom.smith(a)itron.com Website: www.itron.com Knowledge to Shape Your Future -----Original Message----- From: Joe Kidd [mailto:jk@yosemite.net] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 9:39 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Main Sheet Leads M15 >Re-arranging the main sail sheeting will probably force the sailor to reside farther aft. I also image such an arrangement makes sail handling and steering a royal pain. Not so... I repositioned the mainsheet at the end of the boom on my M15 and added a boom vang. With the aid of a Forespar adjustable tiller extension, I sit forward in the cockpit most of the time. Sometimes I even sit on the bridge deck with my legs dangling through the companionway into the cabin. Of course, this seating position is possible only if you remove of all the mainsheet tackle from the bridge deck. Joe Kidd M15 #207 "Poco a Poco"

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thru hull patch
by ron and cathryn goodspeed 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

thank you Doug for the referral to the yahoo site. after seeing the photos the repair job doesn't look too hard. hey Mike, welcome to M-boats, and when you find that perfect boat , if it has an iron board take it out for a sail to see if it will come out of the trunk. I wish I had!! thanks, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025

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Hi. My name is Mike
by brezinski 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

Hi all you MSOG subscribers. The subscription page suggests I do this, so I will. I've sailed on and off for over 20 years. Way too much "off," as I have recently realized that in my 53 years, that I have had a cruising boat in the water for only 3 1/2 seasons, plus quite a bit of daysailing. I started noticing the M-17 sometime in the mid seventies while sailing a Seafarer 22 in Milwaukee. I'm considering getting a used M-17 next year. Buying used will make it more possible to eventually afford the magnificent M-23 Cutter. I currently live in Waukegan, IL. I'm looking forward to being part of this group.

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rotten thruhull-stuck board
by ron and cathryn goodspeed 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

greetings, we are the proud new owners of M17 "hula pie", hull # 025, built in april, 1974. she was a s.f. bay boat for many years and was even shipped to hawaii for a period of several years before returning to northern california. she had been in storage for about 18 months prior to getting wet again just two weeks ago. cathryn and i have taken her out scotts flat lake near nevada city, ca and we can't get the board down so i am tapping it down a little bit thru the pendant hole then cranking it up again to try to get it loose and also trying to slip a hacksaw blade up alongside the board while on the trailer. i have read many ideas in the archives and am currently looking for a farmer with a big tractor and three healthy sons if the simple efforts do not work. even with the board up "hula pie" is a blast! our most immediate problem is that the single 1.5 inch aluminum thruhull is rotten [the one in the cockpit sole looks good] and needs fixing. i read jerry's ideas on thruhull repairs and was wondering if anyone had tried this or any other ideas. how about the two new additional drains a couple of inches above the cockpit sole? any backflow? we are new to sailing and find the M17 to be a very kindly boat to learn on. thanks, ron and cathryn goodspeed M17 "hula pie" #025

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Re: M_Boats: <Sniff> Selling my Montgomery 15, "Piccolo"
by AirEvacLen＠aol.com 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

In a message dated 6/8/2002 7:55:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time, bobo4u(a)qwest.net writes: > So, if anyone in the northwest might be interested in a Montgomery 15, > here's your chance. Bob Olson 253-852-2337 Kent, WA Brian.................This could be something you would be interested in. Lenny

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RE: M_Boats: Main Sheet Leads M15
by Smith, Tom 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

That you are happy with your set up is all that counts Joe. Different strokes and all that stuff. Sounds to me like your brand of sailing would suit me fine too. Fair winds. t Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15/345 -- Chukar Sandpoint, Idaho -----Original Message----- From: Joe Kidd [mailto:jk@yosemite.net] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:11 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Main Sheet Leads M15 >Are you saying handling the main and steering is not more difficult with this arrangement? How so? Isn't there a certain amount of reaching across, or backward handedness to this setup? How did you solve this problem? Tom, et. al., An M15 cockpit is not that big. You can sit almost anywhere in the cockpit and still reach the controls -- with, perhaps, the exception of the outboard. I can sit forward, aft or middle and control main sheet, jib sheets, halyards, reef lines, tiller, etc., with little problem. For me and my admirable, the main sheet tackle was always in the way (blocking the companionway) when attached to the bridge deck, so I moved it to the end of the boom for convenience more than anything else. When combined with the boom vang, I find little difference in main sail control. Obviously, Jerry (the racer) might disagree, but I'm not a racer... in fact, I am usually the only sailor on the lake during my mid-week outings and a tenth-of-a-knot (+/-) is no big deal. As long as the slot between the main and jib is providing good lift, I'm a happy sailor. Perhaps I should give a more complete description of my setup: The top block (w/becket) on the main sheet tackle attaches to the end of the boom with a snap shackle. The lower block is a fiddle block (w/cam cleat and becket) and attaches to the bridle on the transom with another snap shackle. I shortened the bridle until it rides just above the tiller and tied a small bowline loop in the center. The lower snap shackle attaches in the loop. A simple pull up or down sets or releases the main sheet in the cam cleat. Fine tuning the main sail is easy. I made the boom vang with Laser dinghy vang blocks (WM p.1036). Some discussion on this net stated a preference for modern block technology, but I find these inexpensive Laser blocks work just fine. Perhaps they may wear the line more than other designs, but so what? A few feet of 1/4' line is cheap to replace every four or five years. All-in-all, I am very satisfied with my main sheet lead setup. It works for me and I would not want to go back to the previous arrangement. Joe Kidd M15 #207 "Poco a Poco"

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<Sniff> Selling my Montgomery 15, "Piccolo"
by Bob Olson 09 Jun '02

09 Jun '02

Yes Folks -- a difficult decision. I've decided to downsize to a Walker Bay 10. I live on small lake which is a little too small for Piccolo. So, until I move to a bigger pond, I'm gonna make due with dinghy sailing. So, if anyone in the northwest might be interested in a Montgomery 15, here's your chance. I put together a page of shots at http://www.users.qwest.net/~bobo4u/piccolo.html I'm a lousy salesman, so if you enquire about it, I'll let you know about every little problem. Comes with lots of stuff and is ready to sail. Oh, and if you need a truck, I'm selling my '92 Nissan, 2.4 litre, 5 speed as well. Great for towing and hauling stuff. Bob Olson 253-852-2337 Kent, WA

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