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Re: M_Boats: Boat Name
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 09 May '02

09 May '02

I believe I saw a Santana at Lake Pleasant, Az one time with the name "Frayed Knot..." Always liked that one. Coyote in Tucson M17FD #69

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Re: M_Boats: Boat Name
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 09 May '02

09 May '02

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Re: M_Boats: Mast weight
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 09 May '02

09 May '02

Bob, Thank You and Jerry for the info. Tell Jerry it looks like a tall rig is in my future. The 23 is looking very nice. Good Luck. Gary O. M-17 # 316A #5 name game -Knot Rod. PS I am getting NO help from the list on this! If you like em, say yea! if you think they s*ck say so! Please. Thanks C-21 Arizona Foothills 602 943-7252 Office 602 703-7245 Mobile 800 528-8962 Toll Free www.GaryOberbeck.com "Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives." -William A. Foster

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Re: M_Boats: M15 Lift motor mount
by Conbert H Benneck 08 May '02

08 May '02

Hi Don, Glad you were so successful removing the old mount and installing the new Fulton MM. You saved yourself all the work and cost of the additional hatch that I installed to gain easy access to the area. However, now that I have the hatch, I find it very useful for getting at things that are buried in the back corner of the Port sail locker. I now keep my cleaning bucket / sponge / and cleaning supplies back there, and instead of groping for them, when I need them, it's just open the hatch and they are there. I had the same difficulty that you find with the FULTON MM. I cut the top off mine and now the mount is 9 1/4" high, from top to bottom. The bottom bolt holding the mount pad to the lift arms is 1 1/4" from the bottom edge of the MM, if this is any help. This has a double benefit: the motor has the correct immersion depth for the propeller; .... and you reduce weight aft. The MM plate is easy to cut using a cross cut saw. I radiused the two top edges using a wood rasp, and then finished it off with a finer file. Another modification I made, that I can highly recommend is: I cut two slots in the upper surface of the MM to just fit the width of the Honda motor clamps. The slots are about1/4" deep. The idea is to center the motor on the motor mount, and at the same time capture it physically, so that in the remote case of a loosening motor mount clamp, the motor can't go anywhere. Next, with the motor located by the slots on the top surface, I tightened the clamp screws to mark the aft surface of the MM. The Honda has "Vee" shaped ridges on the forward surface of the mount clamps. Tightening the mount clamps makes marks so that you can carve out appropriate slots to fit these "Vees". Now your motor is not only centered on the mount, but also the "Vees" fit into mating notches in the aft face of the MM. With these modifications you'll find it makes life very simple when rigging your boat prior to launching. Put the Honda on the MM and it drops into it's designed space. It is always in exactly the same place. ---------------- Before I installed the FULTON MM I made a plywood mock-up of the Honda mounting clamp height to propeller dimensions, and used that, clamped to the MM as a means for locating the proper height for the MM attachment bolts on the transom. It sure beats trying to hold MM + motor as you search for the "proper" location. When I installed the MM, I made the height so that I could use the last notch on the Fulton MM to go down a bit further, if need be. Otherwise I operate in the next to last bottom notch when the MM is lowered. So far, no complaint, unless I go to the bow with the motor running, and then the propeller will come out of the water. But for normal operations, it works fine and is a big improvement over the fixed mount. To get the motor all the way up, I found I had some interference between the forward edge of the lift handle and the edge of the transom. My solution for that problem was: cut off the handle by about 1/4 inch (just the corner where I had the interference). To do this the easy way, disassemble the mount, and remove the handle. The black plastic knobs are press fits on a small shaft. A bit of judicious prying with two screwdrivers will get one removed and then the pin just slides out of the hole, giving you more working room on the offending corner. Finally, I still had interference, even after cutting off the end of the lift handle. So, ........I cut a matching grove in the bottom lip of the deck/transom joint, to give me that last 1/16" clearance I needed, and now everything works fine. Happy installing......... Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Name game
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 08 May '02

08 May '02

In a message dated 5/7/02 9:25:00 PM Central Daylight Time, GILASAILR(a)aol.com writes: > Gary O. > M-17 # 316A #5 name game -Knot Rod. > PS I am getting NO help from the list on this! If you like em, say yea! if > you think they s*ck say so! Please. Thanks Knot Rod-I confess that I don't get it. I believe this puts #5 in the latter category. Welks Steve Tyree

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Re: M_Boats: RE:boat name
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 May '02

08 May '02

Mark, The selection of the boat name will be meaningful to myself, but I am looking to elicit reactions to the various choices-as in your comment that Knot Rod "doesn't do anything for me." That was a response, (I don't like the choice much myself), the boat is being named by process of democratic input from various sources, family and friends mainly. Thanks for the reply. Gary O. M-17 # 316A #6 Name Game -Filibuster C-21 Arizona Foothills 602 943-7252 Office 602 703-7245 Mobile 800 528-8962 Toll Free www.GaryOberbeck.com "Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives." -William A. Foster

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Re: M_Boats: Boat Name
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 May '02

08 May '02

Joe, That's what I am looking for -a response. I have nixed that one myself. I think I will ponder this "thread" in private. Thanks Gary O. M-17 # 316A NFS C-21 Arizona Foothills 602 943-7252 Office 602 703-7245 Mobile 800 528-8962 Toll Free www.GaryOberbeck.com "Quality is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives." -William A. Foster

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Mast weight
by Bob 08 May '02

08 May '02

Hey Gary. Jerry Montgomery weighed a section of 17 mast for you and the weight is: 1.18 pounds per foot Fair winds M_23 update coming Bob

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Re: M_Boats: 15 & 17
by Conbert H Benneck 07 May '02

07 May '02

Hi David, Eugene Lodrini, who can be reached via the Montgomery website has an M17 for sale at the moment. The boat is located in Old Mystic, CT and is currently in storage under cover. Eugene got the boat last year and then reworked almost everything since he was planning to sail it to Florida and the Bahamas. Unfortunately, 9.11 intervened, and Eugene was recalled to active duty in the Coast Guard. On top of that, a family problem has made him decide to sell his beautiful M17. It has new sails, and everything is in tip-top shape, but has no engine. Eugene can be reached at: capteugene(a)yahoo.com Good luck Connie Benneck M15 #400 Glastonbury, CT ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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15 & 17
by david_hill＠idg.com 07 May '02

07 May '02

I am interested in a Montgomery 15 or 17, but more likely a 17. I know the boats by reputation but have never sailed one. I live just north of Boston and would like to find an owner who would take me for a sail. I also get to San Francisco several times a year on business, so a sail in that area is possible as well. Thanks, David Hill david_hill(a)idg.com

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