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Re: CDs versus vinyl
by Oh Jay 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

From: Reetze(a)t-online.de (Jan Reetze) > the master tape should be the final stage. yes , it SHOULD be , but VERY_OFTEN it ISN'T_!!! :-/ > the producer (or engineer) has done a bad job > if the master has to be corrected again for the disc cutting. ... but that's jus' what happens LOTS of times & why such "corrections" are simply necessary in some cases to even make "the final cut" from master to disc ( fyi : vinyl from metal master & cd from glass master ) then !!! however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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Die Roboter - Canada
by Electram 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

hello all: another show...choreography, videos, costumes, hey the next best thing to kraftwerk... at the electric workers 1 year anniversary event friday sept 20th 2002 legowelt from holland will be performing as well --> great dirty elektro disko !!! venue to be announced shortly...get your red shirts 'n' black ties dry cleaned now ;) die roboter --> http://go.to/dieroboter electric workers --> http://dialectro.com/ew legowelt --> http://www.xs4all.nl/~awolfe/ cheers, dave

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Re: Testing
by Oh Jay 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

> From: "Daft Punk" <klingklangprodukt(a)hotmail.com> [ ... ] hey ... what a really *kewl* & "ORIGINAL" pseudonym or nickname & e-mail addy !!! *LOL* ;-))) however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) ~*~ oh_jay(a)kraftwerk.nu ;-) *~\^/~*

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Testing
by Daft Punk 29 Jul '02

29 Jul '02

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Technopop site - News
by Electram 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

Hello to all, Technopop site has news: If you would like to see rare photos from Wolfgang Flur and some of Karl Bartos, our site dispose 27 new pictures at: http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/pictures_flurbartos.php These images was sended by courtesy of Marko Schmidt, from Germany. If any member can identify the persons at some pictures, please contact us: kraftwerk(a)technopop.com.br Regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti Brasil

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Technopop site - News
by Electram 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

Hello to all, Technopop Site has news: Last updates in the site - Pictures 80 Years page - 1 image Pictures 90 Years page - 4 images Pictures 2000 Years page - 1 image Curiosities page - 3 images Books and Magazines page - 2 images Tickets page - 2 images Posters page - 1 image Animations page - 1 image Cliparts page - 3 images Comics page - 1 image And updatings at News and Concert Dates pages. Be our guest and visit. Regards, Marcelo Duarte Dante de Conti http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br Brasil -- Best regards, Electram mailto:electram@terra.com.br

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CDs versus vinyl
by Oystein Moe 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

Hiya, Now that it's obviously too late to bring in some new aspects to the CD/vinyl debate, I thought I might. Didn't I read in Record Collector, ages ago, that the master tape was never intended as the finished product in the '60s and '70s? Apparently, there is something called the cutting phaze (phase?). This is/was the last stage of production, and the changes could be pretty vital to the final mix. IIRC, the sound could for instance be compressed (so the differences between the loud and silent parts were diminished), or the other way around, like Peo English is not my first language so I don't know what they call that, and even some EQ went into that last stage. Come to think of it, I think Orbital have credited someone "cutting" their records at least once, although I'd suppose they would have put the final cut onto the CDs as well. Anyway, I can't believe the CD/vinyl debate found its way to the Kraftwerk mailing list as I can't think of any CD reissues I own where they did a lousier job. You don't even get the complete recording (first chord of Neonlights?) at times. I also think the fade-in of Europe Endless sounds far weaker. Not to mention all the mic hiss on Man-Machine Autobahn and some others. And I don't have a very good stereo, either, I always thought that records were more important. So, if anyone remembers the RC article I mention, I wont have to bother with searching for it. thx in advance. Oystein _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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dance like a robot appliance!
by Der Automat 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

>From Mute Mailing List info(a)mutehq.co.uk: nottinghillartsclub presents: the anti-festival festival. Saturday 27th and Sunday 28th July. Appliance (DJ set): A dip into the no doubt vast and eclectic collection of motorik Mute-signed krautrockers Appliance. Expect to dance like a robot fool to Kraftwerk, Neu! and Can, then probably receive none of the above... All details can also be found at http://www.nottinghillartsclub.com Unquote. DER AUTOMAT

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Re: "an original sound" is NEVER "digital" !!! ;-)
by Oh Jay 28 Jul '02

28 Jul '02

From: "Der Automat" <automat(a)offcampus.net> > Since the sound is produced by a printed circuit inside the digital > synthesizer, it is purely and completely digital yep ... that part of your sentence is TRUE_!!! ;-) > and original. nope ... this part of your sentence is FALSE_!!! :-o fyi : "an original sound" is NEVER "digital" !!! it can ONLY be (RE)CREATED ( digital ) to sound *LIKE* "an original ( i. e. "analog" ;-) sound" !!! ;-) THAT'S the diff'rence , mate !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) > He runs other projects also, like Almost Digital. ;-) well ... *ALMOST* digital !!! *hehehe* ;-))) i suppose that says it all , eh !? *BWG* ;-))) > Senor Schmidt also uses Akai MPC3000 when he plays live > as Atom Heart and Lassigue Bendthaus. true , but he ALSO uses analog equipment live to make it ( the akai & other digital equipment ;-) sound the way it sounds then !!! *sly_grin_again* ;-) in the end , WITHOUT the aid of @ least "somethin'" analog , digital jus' sounds like a bloody fake !!! *XLG* ;-))) got the concept ... finally , fellows !? *G+* ;-) however ... many greetinx again , oh jay ;-) ~*~ jvr network program - july 2002 : http://mitglied.lycos.de/cybernetx/program.html ( incl. live stream via internet ) studio webcam - live : http://stream.ok-bremen.de/studio.html radio show & playlist archive : http://friends.schallreflektor.com/ohjay/alien_disco for more info , send your request(s) to : oh_jay(a)kraftwerk.nu ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: "an original sound" is NEVER "digital" !!! ;-)
by Oh Jay 27 Jul '02

27 Jul '02

> Poppycock. If a sound is created for the first time in a digital circuit, > it is originally digital. Original as in not from a recording. It doesn't > even matter if the sound mimics a meatspace musical instrument or not; > if it's digital and not derived from a recording, it's original. > > Your rabid, biased vinylist leanings are showing again. > > We get that you're a troll, passing off controversial > as truth in order to stir us up. > > -- > /* Soleil */ well ... there's simply NO_NEED to reply in a mature & reasonable way to this PLAIN_BULLSHIT of mr. lapierre above , as i'm finally DONE with this topic ... & also with him personally !!! :-/ welcome to my personal killfiles , u utterly silly troll !!! over & out !!! oh jay *~\^/~*

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