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Recycling
by Alex Brega 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

My friend Giorgio "Reiter",has noticed that Brasilian Technopop site is taking material all over the web,without asking. He is the Italian KW-related "MONDOKRAFTWERK" site mainteiner and he has never given his material as written in Technopop comics section. What kind of courtesy could be if they even have asked him permission to publish ? I think it is not so correct. Someone has written me,asking if I want to share my Paris recording on the web : have patience,but after 7+7 hours of train to reach the place and about 500 Euros spent in order to see KRAFTWERK, I think that I have all rights to ask for some money. Have you ever seen someone that is giving Man Machine red vynil for free ? Florian has been reached on 27 September at 3 o'clock in Place d'Italie Metro station and he has told that new material will be released very soon. I think the new album is already recorded on each hdd of the 4 laptops. Alex _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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New concert dates
by ncentola 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Hi, As far as I know, KW will play at Electraglide 2002, Makuhari Messe, Tokyo in 13/12/2002, and at Big Day Out Festival (www.bigdayout.com) There´s six different venues: Auckland - 17/01 Gold Coast - 19/01 Sydney - 25/01 Melbourne - 27/01 Adelaide - 31/02 Perth - 02/02 Maybe the australian guys could help us. At the site, there´s no mention about KW playing in some special place (I heared about Auckland). Can anyone confirm if KW will play all the venues? If yes, it could be interesting visit Australia next January... hehehe One question about latest gigs: someone notice thats KW still use foot pedals. But how many has each one? Until 98 gigs, they use 4 pedals each, and looking at the pics from 2002, I can see only one each. By the way, where are the pics from the concerts? Many guys reported there´s a lot of flashes at the concerts. Please guys, upload the pics. :-) peace Nicolau www.kraftworld.hpg.com.br

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Re: Tango
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

From: Christophe Socquet <CST(a)SODEXHO-PASS.BE> > Where does the name Tango (name of the Airwave techno extension) came = > from ? > > Is this an official name or only a fan choice ? afaik , it's jus' "a fan choice" , someone once came up with in '97 ... after their concerts in linz & karlsruhe !!! btw : what was the name of the 3rd new song again ??? *jus'_wonderin'* was it "lichthof" , because it was first played @ the lichhof in linz / austria ??? *pure_curiosity* i always confuse that one with the other title that was floatin' around @ some time : "nummweltverschmutzung" , which was actually called "tribal" later on , wasn't it ??? *slightly_puzzled_look* :-o however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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about the latest flame war & its consequences ...
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

well ... after i've talked to several list members privately about this subject , we've almost all came to the same conclusion that it's really the best to simply IGNORE ev'ry kind of troll , troublemaker or complete jerk of what kind soever & NOT_EVEN reply to them privately anymore ... which was , what i've "accidentally" thought would solve this problem , but ... anyway , IT'S_OVER_NOW_!!! i simply have MORE_THAN_ENOUGH of all this idiocy & therefore take a step back & retire from here right now !!! happy further flamin' on this list ... WITHOUT_ME in the future !!! p. s. : may this list go down in FLAMES , as that's all what it deserves !!! *grim* :-/ oh jay *~\^/~*

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To Arthur and Oh Jay - Peace on earth "brothers in kraftwerk"
by Roman von Contzen 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Ommmm, whilst working on the a-capella version of "Flame-war Dummies" i listened to some non-kraftwerk musik in my "Ping Pong Studio". I think this could be your hymn guys. Maybe - at one of the next KW concerts - we'd all meet, light up some joints and sing along in peace and harmony. Here's the lyrics: Today is gonna be the day - That they're gonna throw it back to you By now you should've somehow - Realized what you gotta do I don't believe that anybody - Feels the way I do about you now Backbeat the word was on the street - That the fire in your heart is out I'm sure you've heard it all before - But you never really had a doubt I don't believe that anybody feels - The way I do about you now And all the roads we have to walk along are winding - And all the lights that lead us there are blinding There are many things that I would - Like to say to you - I don't know how Because maybe - You're gonna be the one who saves me ? And after all - You're my wonderwall... Yes - it's shitty Oasis! Anyway the lyrics match perfectly. Love u all Roman/Berlin aka the german Dalai Lama

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Re: Two more questions on the Paris show...
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

From: Georg Jajus <Georgie(a)blackbox.net> > - At the 1997 shows (Linz, Karlsruhe) the videoclips came from a Laserdisc > Player in the Kling Klang consoles (I remember the 'wrong' videoclip startet at > "Musique Non Stop" in Linz, 'cause Fritz forgot to change the videodiscs ;-) ). > As the Kling Klang consoles are now gone - is there any hint, where the videos > come from? > Did any of the members (Fritz?) change some discs during the show? > If not, maybe they come from DVD or harddsisc from their SONY > Vaio notebooks now? i know FOR_SURE ( fyi : first hand info !!! ) that kw spent the last 4 or 5 years mostly with transferrin' audio- & video-data from ol' media to new media & the videos that once were on laserdisc are now on dvd !!! ALL their music is now sampled & on harddisks , in order that they can use these notebooks etc. !!! FACT is that they are now much more interested in "DESIGNIN'" their performances , than in creatin' @ least SOMETHIN' new & really INNOVATIVE_!!! :-/ a really BIG_DISAPPOINTMENT of their most recent shows was the fact that they chose to play the inferior & still UNFINISHED "tango" extension in combination with their ol' "airwaves" classic , instead of the by now sadly totally OVERPRODUCED "tribal" song , which WAS a hundred times better , as they last performed it , imho ... of course !!! :-o 'nuff said for now , folx !!! however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: flamewerk >> LIVE_!!! << *LOL* ;-)))
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

"mr. arthurbahn" wrote : > you can't stop, babe, can you? *g* > > rename the group to "flamejay" :-)) > > HOW EVER > > "oh brehm sweet oh brehm" *harrharr* :-)))) oh well ... u are sooo far from bein' ORIGINAL & ALL u can do is pitifully copy other people's style & attitude !!! *disappointed_sigh* :-o a chimp would copy my style & attitude even better than u , "mr. arthurbahn" !!! :-/ please hit the reset button on the back of your neck & try to LEARN , how to IMITATE human beings much better the next time , okay !? *MWG* ;-))) however ... many greetinx again , the one & only ***_ORIGINAL_*** oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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fyi : personal HARASSMENT is ILLEGAL_!!!
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

"mr. arthurbahn" scribbled again : > i stop to copy your style, when you stop to flame here, buddy *harrharr* this only indicates , what kind of rather sad human-like individual u are , "mr. arthurbahn" !!! *deepest_sigh* :-o > i know, you don't like it....that's why i do that ;-))) that's jus' another proof for A_MENTALLY_RETARDED_TROLL of VERY_POOR origin , but i'm not @ all surprised about your lack of INDIVIDUALITY or personal style , as u are STILL stalkin' other people ... but this time it's not kw or any of the ex-members ... IT'S_ME_!!! :-/ quite sad !!! *sigh* :-o > be quiet and i stop STOP_HARASSIN'_ME on or off list ... & this FARCE will find an end , "mr. arthurbahn" !!! that's ALL i have to say to u in this case !!! over & out !!! oh jay *~\^/~*

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Re: flamewerk >> LIVE_!!! << *LOL* ;-)))
by Oh Jay 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

> Oh, I always thought that would be called a freak show. > > Erik (couldn't resist...) ... & i always thought that THIS_LIST is actually "a freak show" !? *BWG* ;-))) but maybe we should think of performin' "a special kind of warm-up ceremony" before each new kw concert ... to amaze & hopefully also amuse the rest of the audience then !!! *hehehe* ;-))) p. s. : thanx to jan for the lyrics to "flame-war dummies" ... which should really become a classic here now !!! *slyest_grin* ;-))) however ... many greetinx again , "oh jay sweet oh jay" ;-) *~\^/~*

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Planet of flames
by Marston, Richard 09 Oct '02

09 Oct '02

Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 18:17:49 +0200 / Subject: Re: AW: [Kraftwerk] Flaming Non-Stop / From: "I've got a LASER, Earthman!" wrote: You can add : the mini-flamer Flamermelodie flamer 2002 Franz flamer Flamer non stop ----------- Let's not forget the classic "Flame-war Dummies". This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network.

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