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by Van De Genachte Thierry 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

Hi, Is there anyone who went to the concert in the Vooruit in Ghent (Belgium) ? Was is a good concert ? I had no ticket and could not get one at the entry of the Vooruit (I saw tickets sold for 100 Euro, instead of the 30 Euro ticket-price). Was it a really sold-out concert or like Paris (sold-out but many place over) ? Someone took photo's or recorded it ? Greetings, Leffe Beer FOREVER ! Thierry.

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RE: [Kraftwerk] KW in Paris
by Christophe Socquet 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

> > http://www.kraftwerkcenter.free.fr/images/villette.jpg This picture is NOT from the Paris concert. It even does'nt look like the Cité de la Musique concert hall. "Dit e-mailbericht en alle documenten die ermee verzonden worden, zijn vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend voor gebruik door de persoon of de onderneming waaraan ze geadresseerd zijn. Indien deze e-mail verkeerdelijk bij u terechtkomt, gelieve de afzender te verwittigen en deze bestanden van uw computer te verwijderen. Ce message e-mail ainsi que tous les fichiers transmis sont confidentiels et uniquement destinés à l'usage de la personne ou de l'entité à qui ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message e-mail par erreur, veuillez en informer l'expéditeur et le supprimer de tout ordinateur."

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RE: [Kraftwerk] KW in Paris
by Marcelo Figueroa 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

Oh sorry !, I took it from Kraftwerk Center's 'News' section; now, I think it is just 'Parc de la Villete' So, if you (or anyone) have a picture of KW's concert in Paris, please send it to us. Marcelo Figueroa Cordoba - Argentina -----Mensaje original----- De: djm [mailto:bloop2000@gmx.net] Enviado el: Viernes, 27 de Septiembre de 2002 07:52 Para: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com Asunto: Re: [Kraftwerk] KW in Paris > http://www.kraftwerkcenter.free.fr/images/villette.jpg What's this picture? This was NOT the paris concert. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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Beer (and moving OT a bit)
by Oystein Moe 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

>Stella Artois is most likely Belgiums worst beer... But it sure beats > >Coors >Lite :-) I lived in England awhile back, and I once met a cab driver at a pub who 'explained' a few things about this: 1. He held that Stella Artois is not beer, but lager, which is something different entirely. 2. He held that England has the best BEER in the world, but possibly the worst LAGER, as all the lager was made out of watered down chemicals 3....Except Stella, which was imported, and not full of chemicals, and would thus be the best kind of LAGER in England. Ofcourse, like Sting once said, I don't necessary subscribe to his points of view, but he can't be the only one with these prejudice (prejudices?)... Ah, it's Friday! Have beer, my friends, Stella or otherwise. Oystein _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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RE: [Kraftwerk] KW in Paris
by Christophe Socquet 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

> > - 10 : airwaves and tribal - green This was not tribal, but the extended Airwave version (Tango) > - Did they wear the '97 / '98 'wireframe' dresses? Non, only black dress > - Were there any videos at the Airwaves / Tribal songs? Only an animated green Wave Sine (not synchronized with the music) > - How was the response of the audience? Most of the people enjoyed the show, but some others (like those around me) was just bored by the immobility of the performer. My 2 cents Christophe. "Dit e-mailbericht en alle documenten die ermee verzonden worden, zijn vertrouwelijk en uitsluitend voor gebruik door de persoon of de onderneming waaraan ze geadresseerd zijn. Indien deze e-mail verkeerdelijk bij u terechtkomt, gelieve de afzender te verwittigen en deze bestanden van uw computer te verwijderen. Ce message e-mail ainsi que tous les fichiers transmis sont confidentiels et uniquement destinés à l'usage de la personne ou de l'entité à qui ils sont adressés. Si vous avez reçu ce message e-mail par erreur, veuillez en informer l'expéditeur et le supprimer de tout ordinateur."

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KW in Paris
by Marcelo Figueroa 27 Sep '02

27 Sep '02

Ehhhhh..., I'm waiting for report about Kraftwerk's concert at Paris last night (25-Set-02), please... Many many thanks in advance. Marcelo Figueroa Cordoba - Argentina _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? InformaciÃ³n de Estados Unidos y AmÃ©rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. VisÃtanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com

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kraftwerk@vooruit,Gent
by Geert Lemmens 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

words can not describe how i feel right now... the concert was f*cking amazing!!!!!!! this was the first time i saw them live and it were the best 2 hours of my life!!!! i can't give a set list because i'm to blown away to remember ;-), what i do remember is that they started off with a special version of expo 2000 and ended with numbers/computerword and music non stop during the concert they had some problems with their equipment (at one point i had the impression one of them was rebooting his laptop) which caused sometimes that the bass fell away and one song (i think the robots) was ended quite suddenly. so maybe they had to postpone the luxembourg concert because of that reason kraftwerk, better then sex... (or at least equal :-)) g http://www.dertaschenrechner.tk --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo!

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on french TV this evening
by Filtre4Pole 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

EXCLUSIVE ___ 19:50 ( 10 min. before the show! ) KRAFTWERK ON FRENCH TV CHANNEL CANAL+ ! :-) Hey guys, what were you expecting for? ;-) concert broadcast? interwiew with Ralf & Florian themselves? No, sorry, nothing new... The EVENT ( fyi: talking about Kraftwerk on french TV is an event! ) was only a nice little reportage ( about 4-5 min. ) explaining Kraftwerk myth and the huge influence on all the techno movements, with several exerpts from well known videos, and some interviews - with guys like fashion designer J.C. de Castelbajac... Beside the "Villette-numerique" shows, this reportage was actually made for those too many people who like techno and know nothing about Kraftwerk. Fine. Greetings, _ /o o\ Filtre4Pole \ ~ / I I - -

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Gent 23.9
by Paul Mennes 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

I'm glad to read that some of the people on this list made it to the concert in Gent. I was there too and it was amazing. The 'classic' Kling Klang stage image has been stripped down to just the four people with one-bar-music stands, everyone with a laptop. Ralfs kit contained a synth, you could clearly see (and hear) him play some stuff. The stage looks very minimal and very good. The show open with the curtain routine and the 'Meine Damen und Herren' voice. They start with a version of Expo that's very close to one of the Underground Resistance remixes (if I'm correct). The four people are dressed in black (no fluostripe suits here). The person next to Ralf looked familiar, the person next to Florian didn't (not to me at least). The lighting is exquisite, the sound baffling (that bass!), the visuals are largely what's on the official website, with some bits redone, modernized or reshot. TEE has some new visuals, and Musique Non Stop is featured in a video that contains no images of Karl or Wolfgang (no surprise there). One of the three screens had a few temperamental fits along the way. Radio-activity has a new arrangement for the first few minutes, one I liked a lot. One of the TG tracks was played, also in a more elaborated, arranged version. This track is evolving. And yes, there were technical problems. The Robots stopped somewhere in the intro for a very uncomfortable few seconds. It also had a very peculiar ending. During Autobahn a lot of the programmed material faded out quite suddenly and I could see the guy behind the mixing desk fading up the back up. TEE stuttered occasionally, sounding a bit like a hard disk with hiccups. Still, the crowd didn't mind, took it all in, loved it and went mad. My personal opinion is that these small accidents are irrelevant. They even enhance the 'live' aspect of the gig. No more robots here, no more whipping out the smalll hand held devices for Pocket Calculator. Some of the tracks are updated as far as arrangments and sound go. On the whole a very good, very worth while concert, living up to expectations and a lot more. The emphasis of the show has shifted from Computerworld to The Man Machine. What is wrong with that curtain? It fails to open correctly at exactly the same time as described in the TG concerts. I'm starting to think this is 'part of the show'. Souvenir hunter will drop by the merchandising stand that has everything from the website but the skateboard. They carry a nice 10 euro poster. A tour programme would have been nice. I could see two microphones on stands picking up crowd response, so it was recorded. I now at least of one person who made a dat-copy, sadly enough, I don't know him. No reviews in the papers today. Could still be on the way. Good concert, loved it. (And I quite like Tuxedomoon too,BTW) Kind greetings, Paul

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first Paris Gig
by daniel doppler 26 Sep '02

26 Sep '02

hello this first parisian gig was terific and very zen. first on the stage there were only 4 keybords and 4 laptops over there was a large screen all over the rear of the stage (15mx4m) - 1 : the set began with the robots, all the stage was red - 2 : expo 2000 (the internet remix version - germany/dertoit) - stage green during these first two songs no one of the band sang, just recorded voice - 3 : it's more fun to compute - stage blue - first real vocals - 4 : man machine - stage ref (same animation as on the web site) - 5 : tour de france - stage blue and red (obviously) - classic TDF film - 6 : autobahn - stage blue - 7 : the model - stage white - classic 50' film with - 8 : neon light - blue - 9 : pocket calculator - orange - 10 : airwaves and tribal - green - 11 : radioactivity - purple - 12 : TEE - red and white - 13 : numbers - white first stop - 14 : computer world - green - 15 : boing boum tscahk/music non stop - no light on stage only the screen. Something very strange, the concert was not full !! But was sold out. i've seen people bying their tickets directly at the office. I've not recognized the two other members of the band, it seems that they have not a lot of work to do. Maybe just to be four ! The sound was huge for 2 reasons, the music was mainly generated by the computers (and not keyboard), and the acoustic in that place is very good. If you can, try to go this evening in Paris and have a ticket, i'm sure you can have one. to end a good news, if think they can play that kind of gig until the rest of their life ! We will surely see other kraftwerk concerts. music non stop daniel

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