No. Try getting an egg out of a cake, that's easier. ;-)
(there is a basic method of channel mixing to delete large chunks of music from a track, but the results are not predictable)
Then how can Go Home Prod's do this stuff? Maybe they have access to acapella versions? Because for example there arent't any official Madonna acapellas, yet they remixed "The Power Of Goodbye"! There must be a way...anyway, thanks for the info... _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
Don't forget how tracks are recorded - the backing will be put down, then the rest of the melody, then the singer (in the case of high profile performers such as Madonna, etc. they may not even go into the recording studio, rather they'll use a satellite one near wherever they are at the time) will sing the vocals. All these are recording on different tracks so the engineer can then cut them up, clean them up and tweak them as necessary. All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)... Rgds Chris
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No. Try getting an egg out of a cake, that's easier. ;-)
(there is a basic method of channel mixing to delete large chunks of music from a track, but the results are not predictable)
Then how can Go Home Prod's do this stuff? Maybe they have access to acapella versions? Because for example there arent't any official Madonna acapellas, yet they remixed "The Power Of Goodbye"! There must be a way...anyway, thanks for the info...
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<g> Yes, I should have pointed out that getting hold of the DAT would be - umm - difficult to say the least. Unless you have a mate who's an engineer in a top recording studio and doesn't mind getting fired if he or she is caught smuggling it out of course...
-----Original Message----- From: Jon Doe [mailto:jondoe@clsmweb.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: 10 November 2003 13:06 To: munkie@cloud9ine.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2.
All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)...
Rgds
they just give them out!
Chris goes mission impossible! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Peel <munkie@cloud9ine.com> To: 'Jon Doe' <jondoe@clsmweb.fsnet.co.uk>; 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:11 PM Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2.
<g> Yes, I should have pointed out that getting hold of the DAT would be - umm - difficult to say the least. Unless you have a mate who's an engineer in a top recording studio and doesn't mind getting fired if he or she is caught smuggling it out of course...
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All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)...
Rgds
they just give them out!
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I've done a few mixes from commercially released tracks and find that the best starting point is to find ever existing mix of the track in question and see if the phrase (musical or vocal) that you wish to include in your new mix is included in any introduction or breakdown section. I find that with most tracks that have been released, there is enough variety in different mixes to allow flexibility in remixing and create your own private idaho... I personally use cooledit pro and start with .wavs of all existing mixes, isolate potential loops and phrases and save them as individual .wavs. After stockpiling enough raw material, have at it with the mixing and have fun! Cheers, Lysergic Oh and look for my mixes of depeche mode, new order, the orb, klf, mission giant, britney spears, butthole surfers and more! -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Peel Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. Don't forget how tracks are recorded - the backing will be put down, then the rest of the melody, then the singer (in the case of high profile performers such as Madonna, etc. they may not even go into the recording studio, rather they'll use a satellite one near wherever they are at the time) will sing the vocals. All these are recording on different tracks so the engineer can then cut them up, clean them up and tweak them as necessary. All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)... Rgds Chris
I'd be interested in sampling(!) some of your mixes, as those are all bands I like a lot. I've also become a slightly obsessive collector of KLF unofficial remixes (an unhealthy habit) so I would certainly be interested in those. Any chance of a few uploads? lysergic <lysergic@btinternet.com> wrote:I've done a few mixes from commercially released tracks and find that the best starting point is to find ever existing mix of the track in question and see if the phrase (musical or vocal) that you wish to include in your new mix is included in any introduction or breakdown section. I find that with most tracks that have been released, there is enough variety in different mixes to allow flexibility in remixing and create your own private idaho... I personally use cooledit pro and start with .wavs of all existing mixes, isolate potential loops and phrases and save them as individual .wavs. After stockpiling enough raw material, have at it with the mixing and have fun! Cheers, Lysergic Oh and look for my mixes of depeche mode, new order, the orb, klf, mission giant, britney spears, butthole surfers and more! -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris Peel Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. Don't forget how tracks are recorded - the backing will be put down, then the rest of the melody, then the singer (in the case of high profile performers such as Madonna, etc. they may not even go into the recording studio, rather they'll use a satellite one near wherever they are at the time) will sing the vocals. All these are recording on different tracks so the engineer can then cut them up, clean them up and tweak them as necessary. All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)... Rgds Chris _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
can anyone point me to a proper ftp for this sort of thing and i'll upload away... cheers, lysergic -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:00 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. I'd be interested in sampling(!) some of your mixes, as those are all bands I like a lot. I've also become a slightly obsessive collector of KLF unofficial remixes (an unhealthy habit) so I would certainly be interested in those. Any chance of a few uploads?
Erm...Mr Stringer? Any chance he can up some of his stuff to your illustrious space? lysergic <lysergic@btinternet.com> wrote:can anyone point me to a proper ftp for this sort of thing and i'll upload away... cheers, lysergic -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:00 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. I'd be interested in sampling(!) some of your mixes, as those are all bands I like a lot. I've also become a slightly obsessive collector of KLF unofficial remixes (an unhealthy habit) so I would certainly be interested in those. Any chance of a few uploads? _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
That will be fine to me..just make a folder for the material RMStringer ***************************************************************** in a bar that's always closing in a world where people shout I don't want to talk this over I don't want to talk it out I was quite impressed until I hit the floor isn't that what friends are for? pain looks great on other people that's what they're for - I Was Wrong: Sisters Of Mercy _____ From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:57 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. Erm...Mr Stringer? Any chance he can up some of his stuff to your illustrious space? lysergic <lysergic@btinternet.com> wrote: can anyone point me to a proper ftp for this sort of thing and i'll upload away... cheers, lysergic -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:00 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2. I'd be interested in sampling(!) some of your mixes, as those are all bands I like a lot. I've also become a slightly obsessive collector of KLF unofficial remixes (an unhealthy habit) so I would certainly be interested in those. Any chance of a few uploads? _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _____ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with <http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree> Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
Hi all, I'm French and I saw (and eared) a software that can extract each part of a track (voices or instruments), but it was at the CNAM (the French Music Research Center) and it is not for sale, sadly..... Maybe one day? Cheers Stephane
Absolutely, that's what I do/did. Also, look out for remixes which have different backing tracks on them - especially if they're quieter/lighter.
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of lysergic Sent: 10 November 2003 16:49 To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2.
I've done a few mixes from commercially released tracks and find that the best starting point is to find ever existing mix of the track in question and see if the phrase (musical or vocal) that you wish to include in your new mix is included in any introduction or breakdown section. I find that with most tracks that have been released, there is enough variety in different mixes to allow flexibility in remixing and create your own private idaho... I personally use cooledit pro and start with .wavs of all existing mixes, isolate potential loops and phrases and save them as individual .wavs. After stockpiling enough raw material, have at it with the mixing and have fun!
Cheers, Lysergic
Oh and look for my mixes of depeche mode, new order, the orb, klf, mission giant, britney spears, butthole surfers and more!
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf > Of Chris Peel Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: 'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.' Subject: RE: AW: [KLF] OT: bootlegmixing 2.
Don't forget how tracks are recorded - the backing will be put down, then the rest of the melody, then the singer (in the case of high profile performers such as Madonna, etc. they may not even go into the recording studio, rather they'll use a satellite one near wherever they are at the time) will sing the vocals. All these are recording on different tracks so the engineer can then cut them up, clean them up and tweak them as necessary.
All you need to do is get hold of the DAT (or, nowadays, hard disk) which contains the indivdual tracks, bingo - an accapella (or anti-accapella)...
Rgds
Chris
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