Shag Times vinyl question
it was not reissued, it was a bootleg http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/116.htm http://www.klf.jp.md - Last Update 04.11.2003
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time. Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles). klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/116.htm http://www.klf.jp.md - Last Update 04.11.2003 _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3" Chris -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time. Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles). klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/116.htm http://www.klf.jp.md - Last Update 04.11.2003 _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard
the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" <munkie@cloud9ine.com> To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3"
Chris
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time.
Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles).
klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg
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Which way round should the text be? I'm assuming it should flow chronologically...?
-----Original Message----- From: PVC [mailto:pvc@positivevoid.co.uk] Sent: 07 November 2003 01:47 To: munkie@cloud9ine.com; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" <munkie@cloud9ine.com> To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3"
Chris
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time.
Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles).
klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg
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See my previous comments too though...my version has a white sleeve with 'Shag Times...The Justified Ancients Of MuMu Circa 1987' on the front and a tracklist on the back, all in black print. This was 'new' when I bought it around 1992 therefore is probably the reissue/bootleg version but I have seen slightly tattier (therefore perhaps older) copies where the back of the sleeve is a totally black background with white print...i'd always assumed this was the original issue, therefore isn't that quite a major difference too? I think some of these older copies had the sticker on the front too. the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3"
Chris
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time.
Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles).
klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg
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Both my copies are identical -- with the exception of the sticker. I bought one (sans sticker) from Probe in Liverpool circa 1991/1992 and I won the other one on eBay recently. As far as the sleeves go, both have "THE JUSTIFIED ANCIENTS OF MU MU [pyramid logo] CIRCA 1987" "SH/\G TIMES" on the front and a white "KLF" in very large font on a black panel, although the rest of the rear of the p/s is white with the tracklist/credits in black. I also have RTD87 (the single LP version) which has an identical front to the two DLP3's (although no sticker). No idea if either/neither/both of these are the reissue or bootleg - comments? Chris -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 08 November 2003 16:37 To: PVC; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question See my previous comments too though...my version has a white sleeve with 'Shag Times...The Justified Ancients Of MuMu Circa 1987' on the front and a tracklist on the back, all in black print. This was 'new' when I bought it around 1992 therefore is probably the reissue/bootleg version but I have seen slightly tattier (therefore perhaps older) copies where the back of the sleeve is a totally black background with white print...i'd always assumed this was the original issue, therefore isn't that quite a major difference too? I think some of these older copies had the sticker on the front too. the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3"
Chris
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time.
Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles).
klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg
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The first two you mention sound like the one I have...have you checked the inside of the gatefold? I just did, and unfortunately on mine the text seems to be the wrong way around...the chronology doesn't work, the left side press cuttings dating from Aug 87 to April 88, and the left side from March 87 to July 87. The record labels have the pyramid blaster on one side and tracklist on the other (or BPM times on the second disc). Can anyone confirm that KLF Communications never reissued any of the KLF records, as I bought this around 1992 and it seems a bit early to be a bootleg. It seems the Pure Trance 12" singles were reissued around this time too (WTIL sleeve for example is a slightly lighter shade of green) so were these bootlegs, even though KLF Comms were still pressing records/CDs? It would be cool to hear from someone who feels they definitely have an original copy of Shag Times ie. purchased around 1988, or can someone confirm they have a copy with white text on a black background on the back of the sleeve, please? Beginning to think i'm goin mad =/ Chris Peel <munkie@cloud9ine.com> wrote: Both my copies are identical -- with the exception of the sticker. I bought one (sans sticker) from Probe in Liverpool circa 1991/1992 and I won the other one on eBay recently. As far as the sleeves go, both have "THE JUSTIFIED ANCIENTS OF MU MU [pyramid logo] CIRCA 1987" "SH/\G TIMES" on the front and a white "KLF" in very large font on a black panel, although the rest of the rear of the p/s is white with the tracklist/credits in black. I also have RTD87 (the single LP version) which has an identical front to the two DLP3's (although no sticker). No idea if either/neither/both of these are the reissue or bootleg - comments? Chris -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 08 November 2003 16:37 To: PVC; All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question See my previous comments too though...my version has a white sleeve with 'Shag Times...The Justified Ancients Of MuMu Circa 1987' on the front and a tracklist on the back, all in black print. This was 'new' when I bought it around 1992 therefore is probably the reissue/bootleg version but I have seen slightly tattier (therefore perhaps older) copies where the back of the sleeve is a totally black background with white print...i'd always assumed this was the original issue, therefore isn't that quite a major difference too? I think some of these older copies had the sticker on the front too. the main difference between the original and the repress is when you open the gatefold one of them was misprinted with the text on left and right inners (all the stuff about music papers and stuff) appearing transposed (ie left hand page printed on right and visa versa) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Peel" To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:23 PM Subject: RE: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
I have two copies, both of which have the vinyl in paper paper inners. In fact, the only difference between the two is that one has a sticker on the front saying "2 LP's for the price of 1! Featuring the No. 1 single from the "Timelords" JAMS DLP 3"
Chris
-----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Simon Glass Sent: 05 November 2003 18:07 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question
Are you sure? There were a lot of 'reissues' around this time including most of the Pure Trance singles and I always thought these were legitimate, after all the KLF were still (just about) around at this time.
Regarding the original query, on original copies of Shag Times the back of the sleeve contained white words on a black panel, whereas on the reissue/bootleg the writing was black on a white background. I have the 1992 version and the inner sleeves are clear plastic/sellophane like the Pure Trance reissues, so the original issue may have had paper inner sleeves (like the black paper inners of the original Pure Trance singles).
klf-communications@arcor.de wrote: it was not reissued, it was a bootleg
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Hi...i have a original copy of Shag Times on Vinyl. The inner gatefold writing is in the correct order. Left side March 87 to 18 July 1998 and the right side 23 Aug 1987 to 16 April 88. there is no reverse print or errors. On the Vinyl lp1 has track details on one side of the label and lp 2 has BPM details.....The sides are numbered 1,2,3 &4....has Adrenalin written in the run off groove. The inner bags are normal plain unlined paper. Hope this helps Regards Mark W.
Yep, these match mine. -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Mark Weston Sent: 09 November 2003 08:04 To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] Shag Times vinyl question Hi...i have a original copy of Shag Times on Vinyl. The inner gatefold writing is in the correct order. Left side March 87 to 18 July 1998 and the right side 23 Aug 1987 to 16 April 88. there is no reverse print or errors. On the Vinyl lp1 has track details on one side of the label and lp 2 has BPM details.....The sides are numbered 1,2,3 &4....has Adrenalin written in the run off groove. The inner bags are normal plain unlined paper. Hope this helps Regards Mark W.
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