December 2004 - KLF - mailman.xmission.com

Re: [KLF] burning cash
by say.map＠ihug.co.nz 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

> i would prefer the response of say perhaps > a nice meal for someone who was hungry > or a home for someone without eh? but you admit that if you had the chance you would spend it on yourself and not the hungry or homeless as well! If someone else has the money you want them to give it away, but if you had the money you would keep it! Ha! QED! :-) cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Photography, Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/

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Re: [KLF] burning cash
by Pär Lydmark 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

> Mark Humphrey wrote: > "I don't know what the UK law is regarding defacing/destroying money" According to what Gimpo said in that documentary I posted two weeks ago, it's not illegal. This is what he said: "It's not illegal to burn money. They didn't think anybody would be so daft to burn it, so it's not illegal to burn it." The clip is still available if you haven't seen it. The direct link is http://svt.se/content/1/c6/29/20/80/041125kobra.ram (KLF part begins 9 min 45 sec into the clip, and Gimpos statement about the illegalness (?) of money burning is after 12 min 20 sec). /Par

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another wikipedia update - Blacksmoke
by Stuey and Michelle 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Hey, I've done a major expansion of the Blacksmoke wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksmoke into which I may have introduced mistakes - have a look and make or suggest changes. cheers -- Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) Live at: 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/ Any views expressed in this email are those of the author and not of any of the organisations we are involved with.

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Re: KLF Digest, Vol 22, Issue 16
by Mark Humphrey 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

>From: klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com >[mailto:klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com@mailman.xmission.com] On >Behalf Of K. Weston >Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:29 PM >To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. >Subject: Re: [KLF] burning cash >that is quite unbelievable >and why did they have to pay a fine ?? I don't believe there was a "legal" fine as such. KLF Communication's bank (Barclays I think) charged them several thousand for the cost of re-printing the million quid they nailed to a board. This is because they took the money back to the bank to be re-deposited. Whereas the million quid they burned never made it's way back to the bank, therefore no reprint, it's gone for good. I don't know what the UK law is regarding defacing/destroying money, but think about this; has anyone been procescuted for using one of those coin stamping machines in tourist spots? Mark H

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Re: [KLF] burning cash
by say.map＠ihug.co.nz 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

> that is quite unbelievable > and why did they have to pay a fine ?? they didn't have to pay a fine for burning the cash. they had to pay a fine + costs for reprinting the cash that they "Nailed to a Wall" when they returned it to the bank with big nail holes through the middle of every note. cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Photography, Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/

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RE: [KLF] burning cash
by Don Gagen 09 Dec '04

09 Dec '04

Bill has talked about it the most even though they weren't supposed talk about it at all after they signed some sort of contract. I think it was supposed to expire in 23 years from the day of the burning. In one interview he described it like the ultimate manifestation of rock-and-roll. Like a band smashing up all their equipment after a concert. Another time it was described as performance art, like the previous pieces they created by nailing something like 50,000 UKP to a piece of wood. The idea: is it worth more as art or as cash. (They might have been fined for that and not the burning. Can't remember...) In a recent interview Bill said it evolved from a childhood whim that stuck with him. I think he said something he and a bunch of other children were talking about what they would do with a million pounds. He said he'd burn it simply to shock and impress the other kids. He's also described it as quitting while they were ahead and on top. Like creating a painting and tossing the paint before you put down too many strokes and it ceases to be as fresh and spontaneous. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:klf-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of K. Weston Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:29 PM To: All bound for Mu-Mu Land. Subject: Re: [KLF] burning cash that is quite unbelievable and why did they have to pay a fine ?? whats all that about ? didnt know anything about that.... im on similar tip to the guys disgusted with them for doing it not that i actually condone the use of money i hate money... mainly cos i havent got any today.. hehe no but seriously i really dont like the concept of money.. but anyway seeing as its here... they could have helped people less fortunate than themselves... it would be interesting to know what they were thinking to me i thought their guerilla marketing thing was good dumping the sheep was great... the ice cream cones by the thames was my fav... until i saw that - i slagged em off every time i thought of em after that... __ kwis )) (( c[_] scuse the epenthesis ***************************** On 8 Dec 2004, at 20:42, Don Gagen wrote: My short answer is yes. _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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1987 on BBC Advert
by Andrew McCombe 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Hi Listmembers Saw an Ad on BBC TV the other day - not sure what it was for but there was a shot of a guy with a pair of turntables and on the wall there was a 12" cover in red with '1987' in white on it. Anyone else see it? Andrew

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Re: [KLF] burning cash
by say.map＠ihug.co.nz 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

> did jimmy and bill really burn a million pounds? yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch_The_K_Foundation_Burn_A_Million_Quid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Foundation cheers -- This is the webmail account of Stuart Young, Michelle Ardern & Felix Ardern-Young (3) 42B, Sefton Ave, Grey Lynn, Auckland, NZ Phone: +64 (0)9 376 8100 say.map(a)ihug.co.nz Photography, Graphic and Web design, Web development and hosting: http://www.pixelandgrain.co.nz/ Stuey's personal website - a cobweb site: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~stuey/

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Blacksmoke mailing list
by Don Gagen 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

Did anyone else get an invite? "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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Re: [KLF] Ebay rarities
by TheRitesOfMu＠aol.com 08 Dec '04

08 Dec '04

In a message dated 08/12/2004 15:38:10 GMT Standard Time, TheMgnt(a)aol.com writes: > >hows that ? > > Still not good enough. A proper troll must post a somewhat informed comment > that, on the surface, appears legitimate, but who's pure intent is to incite > a flame war. > > By simply walking into a territory consisting solely of members of like > minded individuals, and saying something as banal as "KLF SUCK DICK" (or it's > equivalent) is, well, banal in it's own right. > > -paul > kwis..... get out more mate, see the world (as little as yours is) instead of studying a dictionary. just in case this isn't in the dictionary... KLF = Keep Listening Forever Wizard

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