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Another few quick things
by jb004a8797＠blueyonder.co.uk 04 Mar '03

04 Mar '03

1. Does anyone know when this Black Smoke albums coming out? 2. Is there anywhere I can download all of Bill & Jimmy's live gigs in MPEG video format (particuarly the Paradiso gig). 3. Is Bill up to anything at the moment because I wrote a letter to him using The K Foundation address and hav'nt heard anything yet? 4. Is there a Bill & Jimmy MP3 archive on the internet anywhere? 5. Where can I download a Mp3 of The Magnificent from? On the Channel 4 Music teletext page here in the UK, on the Feedback page (Page 162) a few people have been writing in to say that the music industry needs The KLF. Think about it, we need something that complex in music, this Pop Idol shit needs to be stopped and Bill & Jimmy are better than anybody.

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Re: Discuss. 500 words or less
by Tony Stuart 03 Mar '03

03 Mar '03

Michael wrote: >Should any artist have this attitude? And should we respect it? This is something that I've found unreasonable. I'm not a mad dangerous fixated nutter, but the JAMS and The KLF meant a lot to me. Bill & Jimmy spent a lot of time from the JAMS onward creating music and staging events that would intrigue people immensely. The use of Illuminatus imagery and slogans, so much self-glorifying imagery and sounds, ultra-collectible back catalogue, etc. The Church of The KLF, no less. To disown it is understandable, but to look down on, or fear, people still in love with their work of that period, something I feel they themselves heavily encouraged, that to me is disappointing. Maybe it's only Bill's paranoia. I haven't heard Jimmy saying anything on the subject at all. t -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup

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RE: [KLF] A Few Justified Questions
by Don Gagen 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

I had started a WR Movie DVD project with a friend who authored and encoded professional DVDs for a living. Everything was completed that I had direct control over. I had my 1st generation PAL copy transferred to professional betacam, and I created all the menus. His job was to implement my menus and handle the details of conversion and PROPER compression of the video to DVD. I was also going to handle the printing and packaging myself. DVDs with graphics printed onto the DVD surface not decals. The problem is that I could never get him to complete his half. So as it stands I have the menus and the tape. I really want to see this project finished, but I don't want to create a home computer DIY DVD burn. I cringe every time I watch a DVD with heavy mosaic or artifacts. I'm not eager to hand over the tape either. There were other projects that disappeared along with the owners tapes. I have considered putting the tape and menu artwork for sale on the list for someone else to complete. I really don't need the money. Just the fact that they would be paying for it would give the owner much more incentive to complete the project. I'm really not sure what I'm going to do with it at this point. Maybe I should burn it and sell the ashes, or cut it into little pieces selling each one for a dollar or two. Don "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: jb004a8797(a)blueyonder.co.uk [mailto:jb004a8797@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 4:33 AM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] A Few Justified Questions 1. What Ever happened to the DVD project? 2. Why Sheep? 3. Did The KLF become Big In Japan? 4. Does anyone know where I can get the 1987 - What The Fuck Is Going On? Mp3s. I downloaded them from Jammins Site but the end of All You Need Is Love got taped onto Next. Because my CD Burner puts a pause in between tracks it sounds weird. 5. What The Fuck Is Going On? By the way, I recently wrote to Mute Records about Triple A. They deny all knowledge about it and said that all Jimmy has ever recorded for them is 2K. What Do you guys/gals think? _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf

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Re: America: No More
by Christopher Gegax 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

In light of Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty's well-known stance against war I have to agree with Mr. Knight and respectfully disagree with Charlie. I suggest having another listen to "America No More" by The Klf. However, if list-members would rather thoughtful discussion on such issues took place elsewhere I will respect that. "If Jesus Christ were here tonight, he would not dare drop another bomb." Chris Gegax Minneapolis, Minnesota USA On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:41:10 -0000, djnite(a)klf-communications.com writes: Well... yes and no. I think that anti-war rhetoric is actually rather appropriate when it comes to a band who wrote a song for world peace (Que Sera Sera indeed!), another on the title of this thread and contributed to the War Child 'Help' album. However, the 'America bashing' needs to be a bit more focused. After all we have America WTIL, the Chill Out and White Room OST dreams of the US highways and Jimi Hendrix sampled all over! I think most of us are perhaps anti US government policy, but I doubt anyone on this list is anti US (counter) culture, which informed so much of what Bill and Jimi did. Just thought it was useful to make that distinction :o) Good night America, we love you. Del

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Scooter
by RMStringer 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

The more I listen to Scooter - Weekend, the more I like it. Someone knows him here on the list? I first heard a song called Weekend by Dj Dick back in 1992. then, it was redone about 3 years ago. I like his version. I doubt that it has been played here in Austin. Is his stuff released stateside? RMStringer ************************** "Rationalization is giving a socially acceptable reason for socially unacceptable behavior, and socially unacceptable behavior is a form of insanity". BB - Pg 550

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Mortal Kombat
by jb004a8797＠blueyonder.co.uk 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

To answer this you would have to have seen the first Mortal Kombat movie. The song at the beginning of the movie sounds similar to What Time Is Love? Did it contain KLF samples or something?

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RE: [KLF] Re: America No More
by Don Gagen 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Touzimsky [mailto:thomas@klf.de] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:11 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [KLF] Re: America No More > however the US > since the WWII has invaded Korea, Vietnam, Laos, > Cambodia, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, > Bosnia and leant military advisors to military coups in Nicaragua, > Chile and Burma. America is the only country to have used a nuclear > weapon in anger and used chemical weapons in large numbers (agent > orange in Vietnam). I think those facts speak for themselves. This is true. However, in many if not all of these situations US was trying to stop heavy handed leaders who torture and murder people who oppose their personal and political agenda. Saddam is one of these leaders... If Saddam does this to his own people so easily one can only imagine what he is capable of doing to others. I seriously doubt that he would be in power if the people had a choice. Don't forget there is no such thing as voting in Iraq. Something worth checking out is a "personal recollection" by an Iraqi on life in Iraq under the rule of Saddam. http://orpheus.ucsd.edu/eands/wwwboard/messages/122.html You pointed out that WW II was a key turning point in US foreign policy. WWII was the one time when the US leaders sat on their asses with the rest of the world and allowed Hitler run wild committing unspeakable acts of horror. To clarify, Agent Orange wasn't a weapon. It was a defoliant and we sprayed on US soldiers too. It's one of those things like asbestos or lead paint. No one knew the damage it caused until it was too late. I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way. I'm not trying to point fingers at a country in general or the people who live there, but the leaders who abuse their power. Don

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The KLF's Guide to the Galaxy (non-HTML - sorry!)
by John Milne 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

As you may know, next Saturday (8th March) is the 25th anniversary of "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" original radio show. I'm attempting to collate a list of all bands/records which have sampled bits of this series - the Orb's "Blue Room", for example, or Jam and Spoon and Radiohead. As far as I am aware, the KLF themselves never sampled "Hitch-Hiker's" in any form (during their ambient days anyway) - but I may be wrong. I wonder if any of the "new" remixes or bootlegs that have popped up in recent years (some of which I've never heard) contain "Hitch-Hiker's" samples. If anyone knows of any record (KLF or otherwise) which contains samples from the show, please feel free to e-mail me off list. Secondly, does anyone know if Bill Drummond was involved with the Ken Campbell stage show of "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? It was done about two years after "Illuminatus!" (which Drummond was set designer on, I think), during the early days of Zoo Records. Presumably Bill had a day job somewhere though! Sorry if this seems a bit off-topic, but any help or info would be very much appreciated. And at least it moves the conversation away from war (unless it's between the G'guvuntts and the Vl'hurgs) ;-) Thanks. John Milne "Last Train to Magrathea"

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RE: [KLF] Re: America No More (OT) Massive Attack
by James Parker 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

The new Massive Attack is good. I didn't like Mezzanine and while the latest is a long way from the hip hop sounds of the early days it is a late night, whispered, delicate sound collage. Worth getting. Apparently it is only 3D on this recording, no daddy G. On the war subject it has been claimed that Irag has invaded all five of its neighbours, however the US since the WWII has invaded Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia and leant military advisors to military coups in Nicaragua, Chile and Burma. America is the only country to have used a nuclear weapon in anger and used chemical weapons in large numbers (agent orange in Vietnam). I think those facts speak for themselves. James -----Original Message----- From: Don Gagen [mailto:DGagen@EnsembleStudios.com] Sent: 26 February 2003 21:23 To: 'klf(a)mailman.xmission.com' Subject: RE: [KLF] Re: America No More (OT) I was just listening to Mezzanine and thinking about the name change too. I'm not sure if it happened in the US as I've only seen a few examples of their releases with the name change online. Is the new album worth getting? I like everything else they've done. It would be cool to hear Jimmy remix of one their new tracks. "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM <MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM> ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com <http://www.ensemblestudios.com> -----Original Message----- From: John Milne [ mailto:Highlandland@btopenworld.com <mailto:Highlandland@btopenworld.com> ] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 3:11 PM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] Re: America No More (OT) During the last Gulf War (assuming we're about to embark upon Gulf War 2) radio stations in the UK were banned from playing certain records and others were altered ("3 AM Eternal" had the gunfire removed, and Massive Attack's name was shortened to "Massive", etc.). Now, just this afternoon, a DJ on Radio Scotland announced that he was going to play "Rock the Casbah" by the Clash, but "wasn't allowed to". He played "I Fought the Law" instead. Have I missed something, or have the Powers That Be (either the BBC or the government, or both) brought out the same ruling, twelve years later, banning the same tunes again? If so, there's been no reporting of it on the news. Sorry if this seems trivial, but considering we're not actually at war yet (and please God never will be), it seems amazing to me that DJs are being banned from playing certain records in mere ANTICIPATION of conflict! John Not Scots, just Scott-ish PS - Why do I feel like I've just written to the "Daily Mail"? _______________________________________________ KLF mailing list KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf> _________________________________________ This INBOUND message to Frontline Limited has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. ------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail message and any attachment(s) are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you should not read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information in this e-mail or any attachment(s). Please also e-mail, telephone or fax us immediately and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. E-mail may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment, and we do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. Please note that any views expressed in this email may be those of the originator and do not necessarily reflect those of this organisation. ----------------------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________ This OUTBOUND message from Frontline Limited has been checked for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service.

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KLF Far East
by PVC＠PositiveVoid.co.uk 28 Feb '03

28 Feb '03

well their releases in japan are well documented however i have KLF items from around the world including a 7" of WTIL from the philipines so there is weird and wonderful stuff to find out there in the spirit of mu liberate and communicate love peace and happiness

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