FOTD -- May 03, 2011 (Rating 9) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I was recently surprised when Brian found a minibrot in a scene that I had assumed and stated held no minibrots. As is so often the case in the world of fractals, things are not always as they seem. Knowing that minibrots were in the scene even though the (apparently flawed) 'fmod' method had indicated they were not, I made an old-fashioned search by locating areas of 2-way symmetry and zooming into the center. The old-fashioned way soon led to today's minibrot and image. I named the image "Most Unexpected", not because the minibrot was unexpected, but because the round-cornered square is unlike anything I have perviously stumbled upon in a fractal image. The image was given extra excitement by rendering it with the outside set to 'tdis'. When I found an acceptable color palette, the final result rated a lofty 9. Part of the rating expresses my pleasure at finding that there are more minibrots in fractals than I had previously assumed. Of course, since I have always assumed the number of minibrots is infinite, it is hard to explain how that number can be increased. (Almost anything done to infinity equals only more infinity.) The calculation time of 1 minute is already quite fast, but even this brief time may be saved by hopping to the FOTD web site at: <http://www.crosscanpuzzles.com/Archives.html> where the finished image is posted. Those who prefer their fractals in hi-def may find satisfaction at: <http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/jim_muths_fotd.html> The original FOTD web site may be accessed at: <http://www.Nahee.com/FOTD/> Hazy sunshine through a veil of clouds, a few sprinkles of rain and a temperature of 70F 21C made Monday a very typical day for the start of May here at Fractal Central. The fractal cats spent the day trying to stay out of trouble. They were almost successful. My day was annoying. It could have been better but also could have been worse. The next FOTD will be posted in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and pay no attention to what they tell you on the telly. Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Most_Unexpected { ; time=0:01:01.61-SF5 on P4-2000 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=basicer.frm formulaname=MandAutoCritInZ function=recip float=y center-mag=+0.6316470288267675/-1.940029456046413/\ 7.679e+008/1/-42.5/0 params=11/-1.1/1.1/-11/0/0/0/0 maxiter=2000 inside=0 outside=tdis periodicity=6 colors=000zzAK8HI7GG7EF6DD5CB5B94A8396384273265356\ 35835935B45C44D44F44G54I54J54K53M63N63O13O33P42N43\ M44L84LG5LF6KF6KG7JG8JH8JG9IHAIHAIIBHIBHICGIDGIDGI\ EKHFKHFKHGJHHJHHIGIIGIIGJHGKHGKHFLGFMGFMFFNFEOFEOE\ EPEEQEEQDDRDDRCDSCDTCDTBCUBCVBCVACWABX9BX9BY9BY8BZ\ 8A_8A_7A`7Aa6Aa69b69c59c59d59d6Be7Ce7Df8Ef8Ff9Gg9H\ gAIgAJhBKhCLhCMiDNiDOiEPjEQjFRjFSkGTkHUkHVlIWlIXlJ\ YmJ_mK`nKanLbnLcoMdoNeoNfpOgpOhpPiqPjqQkqQlrRmrSnr\ SosTpsTqsUrtUstVttVuuWvuVxvWhuWhtWgsWfsWerWfqWhpXj\ pXloXnnXonXomXnlXmkXlkYljYkiajiciqhiskhzhgrefl`fgZ\ edZdcZcbZcaZbaZa`_`__`___Z_ZY_YX_YX_XW`WV`VV`VU`UT\ `TS`SS`SR`RQaQQaPPaPOaONaNNaMMaMLjLLgKKbJJcJIbIIbH\ HbGGZ99bGGfMMjSSnZYrdczkjzjiziiuiiuhiugitgitfitfit\ eitdhtdhychsbhsbhsahsahs`hr_hr_grZgyZgrYgvXgqXgqWg\ qVgqVgqUfpUfzTfpSfpSfpRfpQfoQfoPfoPeoOeoNeoNenMenM\ enLenKenKemJdmIdmIdmHdmHd } frm:MandAutoCritInZ {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(((-a*b*g*h)^j)+(p4)), k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================
Jim Muth wrote:
FOTD -- May 03, 2011 (Rating 9)
I named the image "Most Unexpected", not because the minibrot was unexpected, but because the round-cornered square is unlike anything I have perviously stumbled upon in a fractal image.
The image was given extra excitement by rendering it with the outside set to 'tdis'. When I found an acceptable color palette, the final result rated a lofty 9. Part of the rating expresses my pleasure at finding that there are more minibrots in fractals than I had previously assumed. Of course, since I have always assumed the number of minibrots is infinite, it is hard to explain how that number can be increased. (Almost anything done to infinity equals only more infinity.)
The calculation time of 1 minute is already quite fast, but even this brief time may be saved by hopping to the FOTD web site at:
Wow! That's a real cutie - pink caterpillars coming up to snack on something in the middle, or a cartoonish rendition of the four winds lifting up a symbolic hurricane spiral. -- David gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community
After several years of inactivity, I have recently begun to use Fractint again. DOSBox has been the key for me. I am now able to easily use the sound parameters, enabling me to pursue my interest in Music Fractals. DOSBox is surprisingly well-behaved so far, and exhibits just a few behaviors that I don't remember from the past. One of these can be problematic if you are not prepared for it. Various video modes cause the sounds to change pitch - dramatically. Counter-intuitively, at least for me, the lower the display resolution (smaller window) the lower the pitch. I normally work in 1024x768x256 (SF7 for me). The following pars, based on Albrecht Niekamp's "Out_of_Orbit", were all designed to be heard at that display resolution. Try displaying first at 1024 and then try other resolutions to see the effect. This is a bit troubling in that it is not easy to get people to view in the intended resolution. One note...when listening to music fractals, I find it a lot better sounding if I have some mild reverb included in my soundcard environment. Not too much though...experiment. These four variations show some of the things that can be done with different drawing methods (boundry tracing and 3 pass in this case), orbit delay settings, base hertz values, quantize note pitch on/off, scale mappings and synth parameters. All these except the drawing methods can be accessed via <ctrl+F>. I find it productive to use Viewwindows modes for music fractals. Bill Jemison START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Out_Of_Orbit_BJ1 { ;Border tracing treats periodicity, too. ; DOSBox users - Resolution matters - SF7(1024x768x256) ; This will crash Fractint For Windows. ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 4 ; Sound variation by Bill Jemison reset=2004 type=mandel passes=b center-mag=-0.765332/0/0.7772216/1.4732/90/3.88578058618804789e-016 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=10 fillcolor=1 periodicity=-11 viewwindows=6/0.75/yes/0/0 hertz=-200 sound=y/fm/quant polyphony=3 wavetype=7 attack=8 decay=9 sustain=3 srelease=9 scalemap=1/1/1/5/5/5/8/8/9/11/11/1 orbitdelay=1500 showorbit=yes colors=000<4>00000000zzz0000<4>000z000zzz0zzz00zzz0zyy00yyy0yxx00xxx0xww\ 00www0www00www0wvv00vvv0vuu00uuu0utt00ttt0tss00sss0sss00sss0srr00rrr0rqq\ 00qqq0qpp00ppp0poo00ooo0ooo00ooo0onn00nnn0nmm00mmm0mll00lll0lll00kkk0kkk\ 00kkk0kjj00jjj0jii00iii0ihh00hhh0hhh00hhg0ggg00ggg0gff00fff0fee00eee0edd\ 00ddd0ddd00ddc0ccc00ccc0cbb00bbb0baa00aaa0aaa00```0```00``_0___00___0_ZZ\ 00ZZZ0ZYY00YYY0YYY00XXX0XXX00XXX0XWW00WWW0WVV00VVV0VUU00UUU0UUU00TTT0TTT\ 00TTT0TSS00SSS0SRR00RRR0RQQ00QQQ0QQQ00QQP0PPP00PPP0POO00OOO0ONN00NNN0NNN\ 00MMM0MMM00MML0LLL00LLL0LKK00KKK0KJJ00JJJ0JJJ00III0III00IIH0HHH00HHH0HGG\ 00GGG0GFF00FFF0FFF00EEE0EEE00EED0DDD00DDD0DCC00CCC0CCC00BBB0BBB00BBA0AAA\ 00AA90999009990988008880888007770777007760666006660655005550544004440444\ 0033303330033202220022202110011101000 } Out_Of_Orbit_BJ2 { ; 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I am a bit concerned about the negative values for Hertz. In literal terms, that is undefined, and Hertz are scalar, so negative values should come through as pauses or silences. Maybe that is what you nitend, Mister Jemison. Maybe you could get a similar effect with very small Hertz values.
Bill,
Earlier I had mentioned what I thought was unique behavior of Fractint when run under DOSBox, specifically the shifting of pitch in sound files when changing resolution. It turns out that that is not unique to DOSBox. It works that way on my 486 W98 using ver. 20.03.1.
However, on my 386 W95, I have ver. 19.6. That was prior to the <ctrl +F> sound parameter inclusion. There is no provision in that version to use your sound card or control pitch...just x,y or z and orbitdelay via the <x> screen. Also, the orbitsave=sound command was not included. In that version. The changing of display parameters in 19.6 doesn't change the pitch. I noticed, as well, that the "calibrating timer" notice no longer appears when entering the <o> (oh) command during image generation in or after the ver.20 release,. I suspect that that may have something to do with the pitch shifting. Just a hunch.
If you add the parameter debug=4020 the old timer will be used. Also, try moving the sound= parameter to after all the other sound related parameters, as suggested earlier. The sound card does not get properly initialized with the order Fractint currently writes the sound parameters to the PAR. I have this fixed in my version, but probably won't have time to put together a formal patch until June. Jonathan
Suibject-Was: Re: [Fractint] DOSBox and MusicFractals Test { ; I was just thinking that scalemappings to zero could ; signify a rest. Even though I used this version of ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 4 ; to write these parameters, when I load them, it is ; interpretting them as defaults one to twelve. reset=2004 type=latoocarfian function=sin/flip/cos/asin center-mag=-0.000684158/4.31882/0.7141089/1.3384/4\ 1.6505097310925407/3.76194921054549525 params=2.71828182845905/2.71828182845905/2.7182818\ 2845905/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=4000 inside=0 outside=atan cyclerange=1/1 hertz=331 sound=x/pc/fm/quant polyphony=6 wavetype=7 attack=0 decay=15 sustain=15 srelease=3 scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0 orbitdelay=1000 showorbit=yes }
If I load those parameters, then I end up with 1/2/3/... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Jemison To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] A meaning for scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0;silence. Hi Jay, Actually, what I think is happening is that it indeed does keep the note at 0, however, if you try to enter a number above 12, say a 15, it resets the value to 12. Making those changes (0s and 15s) to the <ctrl+F> F7 screen and then generating a bit and returning, you will find 0's and 12's. The reason I don't think it is internally resetting to 1 becomes painfully obvious if you enter all values of 12's and 1's as I did on this: Arcade_Variation2 { ; This works nicely under DOSbox. ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 10 ; tone map 1's and 12's reset=2004 type=mandelcloud passes=1 center-mag=-0.5/0/0.6666667 params=-37 float=y maxiter=100 inside=0 periodicity=3 hertz=360 polyphony=9 wavetype=7 attack=1 decay=0 sustain=15 srelease=0 scalemap=12/12/12/12/12/12/1/1/1/1/1/1 orbitdelay=1500 showorbit=yes sound=x/fm/quant colors=@default.map } Bill On 5/6/2011 1:20 AM, Jay Litwyn wrote: Suibject-Was: Re: [Fractint] DOSBox and MusicFractals Test { ; I was just thinking that scalemappings to zero could ; signify a rest. Even though I used this version of ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 4 ; to write these parameters, when I load them, it is ; interpretting them as defaults one to twelve. reset=2004 type=latoocarfian function=sin/flip/cos/asin center-mag=-0.000684158/4.31882/0.7141089/1.3384/4\ 1.6505097310925407/3.76194921054549525 params=2.71828182845905/2.71828182845905/2.7182818\ 2845905/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=4000 inside=0 outside=atan cyclerange=1/1 hertz=331 sound=x/pc/fm/quant polyphony=6 wavetype=7 attack=0 decay=15 sustain=15 srelease=3 scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0 orbitdelay=1000 showorbit=yes } _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint
I mean when I run my parameters, with zeros, FracTint considers them to be invalid, so it replaces them with the defaults; 1/2/3...If it did *not* consider zeros to be invalid, and I am thinking that zero is a very reasonable reprezentation of resting, then I would not be forced to wonder what negative Hertz values mean. In my synthesizer, negative Hertz values *can* mean waves that start with a negative phase. I don't think OPL allows that. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Jemison To: fractint@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] A meaning for scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0;silence. not sure what you mean - if you run the Arcade_Variation2 and then go to the tone map screen you are seeing 1/2/3...? That is not at all what I see after multiple attempts. I see exactly what is in the par file 12/12/12/12/12/12/1/1/1/1/1/1. I suggest that you try it again. Anyone else? On 5/8/2011 12:54 AM, Jay Litwyn wrote: If I load those parameters, then I end up with 1/2/3/... ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Jemison To: Fractint and General Fractals Discussion Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [Fractint] A meaning for scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0;silence. Hi Jay, Actually, what I think is happening is that it indeed does keep the note at 0, however, if you try to enter a number above 12, say a 15, it resets the value to 12. Making those changes (0s and 15s) to the <ctrl+F> F7 screen and then generating a bit and returning, you will find 0's and 12's. The reason I don't think it is internally resetting to 1 becomes painfully obvious if you enter all values of 12's and 1's as I did on this: Arcade_Variation2 { ; This works nicely under DOSbox. ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 10 ; tone map 1's and 12's reset=2004 type=mandelcloud passes=1 center-mag=-0.5/0/0.6666667 params=-37 float=y maxiter=100 inside=0 periodicity=3 hertz=360 polyphony=9 wavetype=7 attack=1 decay=0 sustain=15 srelease=0 scalemap=12/12/12/12/12/12/1/1/1/1/1/1 orbitdelay=1500 showorbit=yes sound=x/fm/quant colors=@default.map } Bill On 5/6/2011 1:20 AM, Jay Litwyn wrote: Suibject-Was: Re: [Fractint] DOSBox and MusicFractals Test { ; I was just thinking that scalemappings to zero could ; signify a rest. Even though I used this version of ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 4 ; to write these parameters, when I load them, it is ; interpretting them as defaults one to twelve. reset=2004 type=latoocarfian function=sin/flip/cos/asin center-mag=-0.000684158/4.31882/0.7141089/1.3384/4\ 1.6505097310925407/3.76194921054549525 params=2.71828182845905/2.71828182845905/2.7182818\ 2845905/2.71828182845905 float=y maxiter=4000 inside=0 outside=atan cyclerange=1/1 hertz=331 sound=x/pc/fm/quant polyphony=6 wavetype=7 attack=0 decay=15 sustain=15 srelease=3 scalemap=0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0 orbitdelay=1000 showorbit=yes } _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint -------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint
Bill,
One of these can be problematic if you are not prepared for it. Various video modes cause the sounds to change pitch - dramatically. Counter-intuitively, at least for me, the lower the display resolution (smaller window) the lower the pitch. I normally work in 1024x768x256 (SF7 for me). The following pars, based on Albrecht Niekamp's "Out_of_Orbit", were all designed to be heard at that display resolution. Try displaying first at 1024 and then try other resolutions to see the effect. This is a bit troubling in that it is not easy to get people to view in the intended resolution.
I find it productive to use Viewwindows modes for music fractals.
If you use something like this: viewwindows=6/0.75/yes/320/240 then the same size image will always be used unless the user has selected a smaller display resolution. And if they do, they get a warning message about using full screen instead of a viewwindow. Jonathan
Bill,
BTW - moving the sound= parameter to the end of the sound-related items works like a charm! Haven't decided yet if the debug=4202 will be useful. Where in the par file should it be located? I tried it near the beginning, and it didn't seem to have an effect. Only when I entered debug=4202 via the <g> did it seem to take effect.
I hope you are actually using debug=4020. Anywhere in the par after the reset= should work. Jonathan
Jonathan Before I complained I wanted to see what the latest version is but can't seem to find any up to date site. Have been using version 4 but one recent FOD was dependent on a revision so I switched to version 10 which worked fine but brings up an old problem. I am not sure when it happened but RAMDisk is broken. Attempting to use it on any of my systems results in a complete lockup. I could go back to version 4 but it seems obvious now that I would be losing something that I might need. Is there any newer version? Have been thinking about writing Tim and asking him to post a gentle reminder about no HTML. It's a pain in the neck having to convert a HTML file to text to get a parameter posting. I have a program to do it but it has a peculiar problem. With no pattern that I can see it substitutes A0 for 20 to represent a space. In windows this seems to be transparent but in DOS it shows as an a with an accent rather than a space. It doesn't seem to cause a problem in most cases but when it occurs in a formula things get messed up. I am not asking you to do anything but thought it might be an interesting example of how computers can go wrong in very strange ways. Charles
Charles Crocker wrote:
Before I complained I wanted to see what the latest version is but can't seem to find any up to date site.
Is there any newer version?
The most current version is 20.4.11 and may be found available for different operating systems at: http://www.FractInt.org/ftp/current/ Sincerely, P.N.L. -------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. -------------------------------------- http://www.Nahee.com/PNL/Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
Charles Crocker wrote:
Have been thinking about writing Tim and asking him to post a gentle reminder about no HTML. It's a pain in the neck having to convert a HTML file to text to get a parameter posting. I have a program to do it but it has a peculiar problem.
Most email clients have a selection on the Tool Bar to switch between viewing the message body as either Plain Text or HTML. I would think that QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 should have that as well. (I personally leave mine set to Plain Text and only go to HTML if I am forced to.) Sincerely, P.N.L. -------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. -------------------------------------- http://www.Nahee.com/PNL/Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
Charles,
Before I complained I wanted to see what the latest version is but can't seem to find any up to date site. Have been using version 4 but one recent FOD was dependent on a revision so I switched to version 10 which worked fine but brings up an old problem. I am not sure when it happened but RAMDisk is broken. Attempting to use it on any of my systems results in a complete lockup. I could go back to version 4 but it seems obvious now that I would be losing something that I might need.
I looked at your messages on the Fractdev List from 2007 about this and will try to recreate the problem. Hopefully, I'll have better luck this time. Jonathan
Charles,
Before I complained I wanted to see what the latest version is but can't seem to find any up to date site. Have been using version 4 but one recent FOD was dependent on a revision so I switched to version 10 which worked fine but brings up an old problem. I am not sure when it happened but RAMDisk is broken. Attempting to use it on any of my systems results in a complete lockup. I could go back to version 4 but it seems obvious now that I would be losing something that I might need.
Okay, I found the problem. There is a buffer overflow if the savename in sstools.ini is too long. I'll increase the buffer size and add some checks. In the mean time, you should use the relative address of the savename instead of the absolute address: pics instead of c:\fractint\pics Thanks for prompting me to look at this again. Jonathan
Jonathan Thanks for your efforts. Went to 20.04.11 and things work perfectly. Amazing that such trivial things can have such far reaching consequences. My previous remark about Paul Lee was just a reference to his post where he said that he was using Windows 98 and DOS for his Fractint work. Tim has plugged DosBox. I gave it a try and it seemed to work OK but the rate that Microsoft changes Windows makes me reluctant to switch to it. I used to like DR DOS better than MSDOS. As I remember some disk drive company acquired it and immediately junked it. Never understood why. With a couple of improvements DOS would be a great program. What would be great is making file names just a little longer. Eight characters is rather too short. Fractints allowing long PAR file names isn't much help when the GIF files get cut down to eight. One small change to Fractint that would make me happy would be when a picture is loaded to have it's name put into the X screen file name. I know it's easy to change but remembering to do it every time is difficult. I don't know how many duplicate FRACTxxx.gif files I have and every time I try to get them organized things quickly bog down. In my original program the naming I used was xxxXyyyZ. Where xxx was first three significant digits of real coordinate. X was a letter for Fractal type. All I ever got to use was M,J, and D, D for Dragon. And yyy for imaginary coordinate. Leaving 36 choices to distinguish individual pictures. These days that system would fill up pretty fast. Charles
Charles Crocker wrote:
What would be great is making file names just a little longer. Eight characters is rather too short. Fractints allowing long PAR file names isn't much help when the GIF files get cut down to eight.
Something that has been on the "wish list" for quite a number of years now!!! It should not be that difficult to allow the full length file names that have been available now for around 20 years under a Windows OS. Sincerely, P.N.L. -------------------------------------- Why do most folks hate cynics so much? Because we're almost always right. -------------------------------------- http://www.Nahee.com/PNL/Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
I have to say that image was indeed "most unexpected", one of the strangest things I've seen in any fractal. The rounded square is so totally unfractal. Thanks yet again, Jim. The FOTD: the Everready Bunny of gifts that keep on giving. On 02/05/2011 10:35 PM, Jim Muth wrote:
FOTD -- May 03, 2011 (Rating 9)
Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts:
I was recently surprised when Brian found a minibrot in a scene that I had assumed and stated held no minibrots. As is so often the case in the world of fractals, things are not always as they seem.
Knowing that minibrots were in the scene even though the (apparently flawed) 'fmod' method had indicated they were not, I made an old-fashioned search by locating areas of 2-way symmetry and zooming into the center. The old-fashioned way soon led to today's minibrot and image.
I named the image "Most Unexpected", not because the minibrot was unexpected, but because the round-cornered square is unlike anything I have perviously stumbled upon in a fractal image.
The image was given extra excitement by rendering it with the outside set to 'tdis'. When I found an acceptable color palette, the final result rated a lofty 9. Part of the rating expresses my pleasure at finding that there are more minibrots in fractals than I had previously assumed. Of course, since I have always assumed the number of minibrots is infinite, it is hard to explain how that number can be increased. (Almost anything done to infinity equals only more infinity.)
The calculation time of 1 minute is already quite fast, but even this brief time may be saved by hopping to the FOTD web site at:
<http://www.crosscanpuzzles.com/Archives.html>
where the finished image is posted. Those who prefer their fractals in hi-def may find satisfaction at:
<http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/jim_muths_fotd.html>
The original FOTD web site may be accessed at:
Hazy sunshine through a veil of clouds, a few sprinkles of rain and a temperature of 70F 21C made Monday a very typical day for the start of May here at Fractal Central. The fractal cats spent the day trying to stay out of trouble. They were almost successful.
My day was annoying. It could have been better but also could have been worse. The next FOTD will be posted in 24 hours. Until then, take care, and pay no attention to what they tell you on the telly.
Jim Muth jamth@mindspring.com
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