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Re: [Fractint] please is anyone listening to me?
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

Hmmm, what you talking about? David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com why are people ignoring me? -david _______________________________________________ Fractint mailing list Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint

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Cardioid plus circles...?
by Tony (Anthony) Hanmer 05 Aug '04

05 Aug '04

I have read that the Mandelbrot Set can also be though of as a cardioid (the main body) with circles attached to it. Looks likely to me. Does anyone know the ratio of sizes of successive circles to each other, and of the largest of them to, say, the "vertical diameter" of the cardioid? It isn't Fiegenbaum's first Constant by any chance, is it? Next: Is the arrangement (position) of the circles something which might be programmed, knowing size ratios, avoiding the standard z->z^2+c programming entirely? Tony Hanmer Tbilisi, Republic of Georgia _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Q 4 SherLok Merfy re "Hw2 combine diff vus of a fractal in truecolour"
by Hal Lane 03 Aug '04

03 Aug '04

############################################### Thanks for the pics: http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/cards/heart.htm http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/cards/diamond.htm You say: > If you are interested in how to combine > different views of one > fractal in truecolour, then you might find > http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/img/cards/par.gz > to be interesting. Do your formulas do the combining of two different views both of which you calculate within the formula - or do you use something like PhotoShop to combine two separately calculated images? I didn't understand how the formulas in your file: cards.par were combining two views (if they were doing that). I also ask if you use another program in addition to Fractint because I noticed that your images were .jpg and not the .gifs written by FractInt. Also, your statements: > I equalized the chrominance view through a mask. and > ...it's hard to beat FracTint combined with a > good pixel editor. imply the use of programs other than FractInt. What program(s) do you use to equalize the chrominance view through a mask? <---<< What program(s) do you use to combine different views of a fractal into true color? <---<< What program(s) do you use to do pixel editing? <---<< What effects do you try to achieve when you edit pixels? <---<< By the way, you typed "FracTint". The intent of the name Fractint was originally "an INTeger fractal calculator" -- so I would expect a recapitalization to be "FractInt" rather than your "FracTint", altho Fractint does apply 'tints' to fractals (mathematical abstractions) and thereby creates color images... - Hal Lane ######################### # hallane(a)earthlink.net # ######################### ############################################### --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.732 / Virus Database: 486 - Release Date: 7/29/04

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Re: [Fractint] Multiple Boot for FractInt Users
by Mark Christenson 03 Aug '04

03 Aug '04

<de-lurk> *** Prenatal Advisory: WAY off-topic. Penance forthcoming. *** Ja no, Merf, I usually take little notice of yer postings, butt eye must chime in on a couple of points. > My computer says "Designed for Windows NT and 98" and I don't even >believe that. (If I did, then I wouldn't hav tried Linux). As far as I'm >concerned it was designed for DOS and Win3.1, which would be a bit nicer >if MicroSoft's Win32s would install again (because I can quit from it >without rebooting the machine). God, I long for the days of Win 3.1. I had to upgrade from my old flintlock 486/80 to a Win 98 PII so I could run Java and burn CDs. I hoped I would adjust to the '95 and subsequent limitations and quirks, but still: - I'm G**-damned sick and tired of not being able to do block file renames. I archive a LOT of data from my Web surfing, and I despise having to manually rename every file without an extension to .TXT or whatever so I don't have to tell Windoze what app to use to open it. - I'm also tired of Win 98 (which is the latest Win OS I can run without employing fancy workarounds to support pure DOS mode) trying to second-guess me when I am dragging files between folders and questioning my every decision to change a file extension. - I'm REALLY tired of Microsnot referring to reduced capability, bugs, quirks, and other defects as "features". I know I should move to some Linux-based solution, but am afeared of compatability issues with old DOS and Windoze apps... > Actually, this contraption has two warning labels. The other is >"Intel Inside", but at least Linux wil tel you if you hav one of their >buggy chips. I hear you. The old 486 box had an AMD chipset and was considerably more stable than the Intel/PII/Win98 system. Of course maybe it's the OS... ========== In Fractint tradition, I offer a PAR in penance, a glimpse into the enticing universe of Sylvie Gallet's gravijul-v3: gjv3-ai { ; * cotan/asin /exp z/o ah decomp sg6 (c) Bud 2002 20 Dec reset=2002 type=formula formulafile=gravjulz.frm formulaname=gravijul-v3 function=cotan/asin/exp passes=1 center-mag=-0.41318/0.502105/3.846154/1.3333/-90/3.88578058618804789e-01\ 6 params=-1.003/-0.289156/-0.003/0.002/4/0 float=y maxiter=256 inside=255 outside=imag decomp=256 periodicity=0 viewwindows=2/1/yes/0/0 cyclerange=0/255 sound=beep/fm colors=000G00J00L00<12>a00b00c00<3>i00k00m00o00q00<3>x00z00y00<24>T88R88\ Q88<2>M99KAALBB<24>ljjmkknmm<2>qqqsssrrr<24>JMOIKNGJL<2>CFIADGAEH<24>2dq\ 2er2ft<2>1ix0kz0jy<24>DMPDLOEKM<2>FHIGGGHHG<24>qkTrlUtnU<2>xqWzsXyrW<30>\ GG0 } frm:gravijul-v3 { ; Variation on Mark Christenson's gravijul by Sylvie Gallet z = pixel: w = fn1(z) z = fn3(fn2(w*w)^p1) + p2 |z| < p3 } Aloha, Bud <lurk>

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Re: [Fractdev] Fractal Creations OCR
by Paul N. Lee 03 Aug '04

03 Aug '04

Tim Wegner wrote: > > John Wilson did what in my opinion is > a very successful experiment scanning > the first few pages of Fractal Creations > 2nd Edition (FC2). .....what OCR > software you used? I believe John stated on at least two emails to the FractInt List that he was using "ABBYY" as the OCR software. > > I've had offers of FTP access with login > for a few team members, but I don't think > this degree of security is needed. After your initial reaction to John's making those few pages available, my offers to have an FTP access with login was only to help assure you of some form of security. Now that this will not be necessary, maybe a few others will have some free time this summer to assist in the effort. Sincerely, P.N.L. ------------------------------------------------- http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/

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Ancient Par Files.
by Peter Moreland 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

Hello Folks I used to be fairly active as a fractal artist about a decade or so ago! After a long break I want to start creating some more fractals. The first thing I want to do is get all my lost PAR files back together, particularly for the images that I contributed to Fractal Creations Second Edition published by the Waite Group and those posted in the CompuServe Graphics Forum. I have scoured the net and managed to find about 80% of them but the rest are rather elusive. If any of you folks have horded PAR files from this period or know of some sensible person who has an archive (I lost mine in a drive crash) that is on or off the net could you point me in the right direction? Many thanks Peter Moreland

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FOTD 02-08-04 (Mimoids [3])
by Jim Muth 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

FOTD -- August 02, 2004 (Rating 3) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The rush continues here at Fractal central. Today's image shows a midget in the fractal that is created by subtracting Z^(-11) from 7 parts of Z^(1.1) then adding 1/C. It is basically a cut-off scene made more interesting by being rendered with the outside set to 'fmod'. The result is not all that interesting, and rates only a 3. But the very fast render time of 1 minute gives an overall value of a respectful 272. The name I gave the image -- "Mimoids" -- is a word from the novel "Solaris", where the living planetary ocean creates forms mimicking the images it finds in the minds of the visitors from earth. The task of downloading the completed image from the FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> is about equal to the task of running the included parameter file and waiting a full minute. Warm, muggy weather on Saturday and Sunday here at Fractal Central kept the dynamic cats confined to the porch. Occasional showers kept the grass wet, assuring that the duo would remain close to home. Today is starting the same, so I expect similar behavior from the duo. For me, it's the same old story -- work, work, work. Who said that being self-employed means lots of free time for fun. The next FOTD will appear as soon as I find time to find a worthy fractal, most likely in two or three days. Until then, take care, and be worthy of your fractals. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Mimoids { ; time=0:01:06.40--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotMix4 function=recip center-mag=-0.13795262862347370/+0.041547177846593\ 86/3.121372e+012/1/150/0.002408448 mathtolerance=/1 params=7/1.1/-1/-11/0/0 float=y maxiter=275 inside=0 proximity=1.4 outside=fmod logmap=19 periodicity=10 colors=000S8XT8XU8WV7WW7WX7WW2UX4VX6WX7WX9XXBXXCYX\ EYXFZXH_XJ_XK`XM`XNaXPaXRbXScXUcXVdXXdXZeX_eXafXbf\ _XXdRMcSNbSOaSP`SQ_SRZSSYSTXSUWSUVTVUTWTTXSTYRTZQT\ _PT`OTaNTaMUbLUcKUdJUeIUfHUhGUiFUk9UiBUkDTkFSmGRmI\ OoKLpMIqNFrPCsR9tS7uR8vR8wQ8xQ8yQ8zP8yP8xP8wO8vO8u\ O8tN8sN8rN8qM8pM8oM8nL8mL8lL8kK8jK8iK8hJ8gJ8fJ8cI8\ aI8_H8XH8WH8VG8UG8TG8SF8RF8QF8PE8OE8NE8MD8MD8LD8KC\ 8KC8JC8IB8IB8HB8GA8GA8FA8E98E98D55C98DCBDFDDJGEMJE\ PLETOFWQFZTFbWGeYGh`GlcHoeHqhHsjEujHsjKqjMojPnjSlj\ UjjXhi_fiaeidcigaii_ilYioZjsYirXiqXipWioWinVinUimU\ ilTikTijSijRiiRihQigQifPieOieOidNicNibMiaMiaOh_QgY\ RgXTfVVeUWeSYdQ_cP`cNbbMdaKeaIg`Hi_Fj_ElZClYAmZBmZ\ BmZBmZCnZCnZCnZDnZDoZDoZEoZEoZEpZFpZFpZFpZFqZGqZGq\ ZGqZHrZHrZHrZIrZIsZIt_Ju_Jv`Jw`KwaKwaKwbKwbKwcKwcK\ wdKwdKweKweKwfKwfKwgKwgKwhKwhKwiKwjKwkKwlKwmKwmKwm\ KwmKwmKwmKwmKwmKwmKwmKwmK } frm:MandelbrotMix4 {; Jim Muth a=real(p1), b=imag(p1), d=real(p2), f=imag(p2), g=1/f, h=1/d, j=1/(f-b), z=(-a*b*g*h)^j, k=real(p3)+1, l=imag(p3)+100, c=fn1(pixel): z=k*((a*(z^b))+(d*(z^f)))+c, |z| < l } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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Fractint with AGP??
by Tim Wegner 01 Aug '04

01 Aug '04

Has anyone successfully used Fractint with an ATI Radeon 7500 AGP video board, or for that matter, with any AGP video board? I have problems - computer hangs after the completion of an image in any SVGA mode (but not native VGA or tweaked modes). I swapped out the ATI board and put in an old PCI SVGA board I had lying around, and the symptoms went away. (Problem is not OS related, happens under Windows or DOS). Tim Wegner

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