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FOTD 07-08-04 (Philosopher's Stone [4])
by Jim Muth 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

FOEFD -- August 07, 2004 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Following advice that appeared on the Fractint list, and feeling a bit disappointed with the recent irregular FOTD postings, I have decided to temporarily change the title of my fractal postings from the FOTD to the FOEFD. Until further notice, the 'Fractal of the Day' will be known as the 'Fractal of Every Few Days'. Today's FOEFD takes us back to the Mandelbrot set, which is just about the only thing I have time for nowadays. The area under investigation is the third valley of the north period-3 bud complex. The area is a difficult one, requiring an extreme maxiter and a magnitude that presses the limits of the conventional math routine. In fact, the magnitude in excess of 2*10^13 required me to insert the mathtolerance entry into the parameter file. The result of all this effort is a midget very like those that have been seen many times before. In an effort to bring a little life to the scene, I rendered it with the outside set to 'real', but even this left some areas boringly flat. I could probably have done better with the coloring if I had had the time. As it is, the image rates a 4, which is only a little below average. The render time of 23 minutes gives an overall value of 17. I named the image "Philosopher's Stone" for some reason that I have now forgotten. The philosopher's stone was supposed to be a magical stone that could somehow change base metals into gold. Alchemists spent their lives searching for it. I doubt that any ever found it. If all goes well, over 23 minutes can be saved by downloading the GIF file of today's image from the FOTD (FOEFD) web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Since the name change to FOEFD is temporary and a bit frivolous, the internet address of the web site will remain unchanged. Except for a brief thunder-shower Wednesday evening, the weather here at the original Fractal Central has been near perfect for intrepid cats. The slightly-less-intrepid human had little time to enjoy the conditions however. Today is starting near perfect once again. The cats will be happy; the human will be working. And the next FOEFD will appear in a few days as promised. Until that moment arrives, take more than care, and live a fractal life. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= Philosophers_Stone { ; time=0:23:34.94--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=mandel passes=1 mathtolerance=/1 center-mag=-0.11100225432087810/+0.882338206182969\ 80/2.248947e+013/1/-94.5/0.0223318343957402271 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=5000000 bailout=9 inside=0 outside=real logmap=23338 periodicity=10 colors=0006AO79Q88S98UA7WB6YC6_DAaEEcFIeGMgHQiITkK\ XmN`oQdrThuWkwZlxalydlzgmzjmzmmzonzqnzsozupzwqzxrz\ yszztzzuzzvzzwzzxzzyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz\ zjoZgpWdqUarR_sPctagudkufmpeokdqgcsbbuYawUaxT`xT`x\ S_yS_yRZyRZdRqOXmcOksFirC`q9Sp7Jo4Ao22k95gG7cN9_TB\ W_DSfFPlHTSCW77`FBeMEjUIo`LsgOpjUmlZjncgphdrmatr_v\ walpccjeVcgMYiDSPME4V18`ACeIGjRKoZOtfQrfSpeUneWleY\ jd_hdafccdcebccd`afZ_gXYiVWkSUlQTnORoMPqJNsHLtFJvD\ IwBSwIawOkwUuw_tvZsyYruXquWptVotUnsTmsSlrRkrQjqPiq\ OzpOVYVHE`KD_MDZPCYRCXTBWWBVYBU_ATbASd9Rf9Qi8Pk8Om\ 8NlANwCNjDNiFNhHNhINzKNfLNeNNdPNdQNzSNzUNzVNzXNzYN\ zXQzWSzWUzVXzUZzU`zTczSezSgzWhz_izcjzgkzklzmmzmnzm\ ozmpzmqzmrzmszmtzmuzmvzmwzmxzmyzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzz\ mzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmz\ zmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzm\ zzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmzzmz } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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mr. Gerald K. Dobiasovsky, thanks!
by David Lowenstein 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

thanks for the formula! -david

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint with AGP??
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

I just tried it, too, and get an error 404: "The requested URL '/VESAINFO.TXT' was not found on this server." David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee(a)Worldnet.att.net> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2004 6:11 pm Subject: Re: [Fractint] Fractint with AGP?? > Tim Wegner wrote: > > > > I have put a vesa test program here: > > http://tim.fractint.org/VESAINFO.TXT > > > > I tried the above URL on two different ISP and with three different > browsers. None of them were able to retrieve a valid file.

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 04-08-04 (For Ever and Ever More [4])
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

When I checked the August page yesterday, the only august entries that were there were for the 1st and 2nd. The 3rd and 4th were not even on the page. David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul N. Lee" <Paul.N.Lee(a)Worldnet.att.net> Date: Thursday, August 5, 2004 6:42 pm Subject: Re: [Fractint] FOTD 04-08-04 (For Ever and Ever More [4]) > jimmckenzie wrote: > > > > Can't get the file. I've Nuked the > > cookies and and cache. Any suggestions > > would be appreciated. > > > > "Jim Muth" wrote: > > > > > > The completed image may be found at: > > > > > > <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> > > > > > > > Strange, it has only been accessed five times since it was > uploaded, and > each FOTD usually gets more than that in a 24-hour period. > > I re-uploaded to the website, so give it another try. > > > Sincerely, > P.N.L. > ------------------------------------------------- > http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/PNL_Fractals.html > http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/ > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint >

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sorry about the multifractal bit!
by David Lowenstein 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

it's a new topic you can find online. -david how does one calculate the rudy set?

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Next FOTD coming Aug. 7
by Jim Muth 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

Fractal fans: Due to the continuing rush, the FOTD for Aug 6 has been pushed back to Aug. 7. Hopefully, it will be worth the wait. Luckily, the end of the rush is now in sight, and we should be back to the daily schedule before the end of the month. Jim M.

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Re: [Fractint] Fractint with AGP??
by Russell Walsmith 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

I've been using an Nvidia Gforce 4200i (with XP) for more than a year now, with no problems. I have noticed though, that an alt-tab back to the desktop is quite slow compared to other cards. A function of the card's 64 MB of memory perhaps... Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Wegner" <twegner(a)swbell.net> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:51:48 -0600 To: BillatNY(a)aol.com,Fractint and General Fractals Discussion <fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Fractint] Fractint with AGP?? > I'd also be interested in how Nvidia based boards work with Fractint. > Does anyone have a board based on Nvidia Gforce 5200? I'm not a gamer > so I don't need the latest and greatest 3D, so I figure a board about > like an Nvidia Gforce 5200 would be about right if it has good VESA > VBE support. > > I have put a vesa test program here: > > http://tim.fractint.org/VESAINFO.TXT > > This dumps out a whole lot of information using: > > vesainfo -v > yourboard.txt > > Of course the makefcfg.exe program gives similar information. > > Maybe we should build up a database of boards known to work OK with > Fractint. I'm not sure how long before VESA VBE is no longer found in > video boards ... > > Tim > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint >

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FOTD 04-08-04 (For Ever and Ever More [4])
by Jim Muth 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

FOTD -- August 04, 2004 (Rating 4) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: The continuing rush here at Fractal Central shows little signs of abating. But the fractals keep coming. And why not? The FOTD is becoming so automated that it takes little more than 10 minutes of my time. The question now is, 'can good fractals and interesting discussions be found automatically, and if they can, what does this say about the worth of fractals in general?' Today's hastily-found image takes us deep into the east branch of the valley of the period-3 bud on the north shoreline of the main cardioid (bay) of the Mandelbrot set. I searched for all of two minutes before finding this familiar-looking scene, whose only redeeming features are a too-high logmap value and a little extra attention given to the coloring. The too-high logmap is the cause of the flat background, which is not all bad, since it gives the overall scene the appearance of brilliant little beads floating in infinite space. I named the image "For Ever and Ever More", and rated it at a 4, which fits well with the fourth day of the month. When the render time of over 15 minutes is figured in, the overall value rates a 26. When the completed GIF image is downloaded from the FOTD web site, the overall value has little meaning. The comple- ted image may be found at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> Monday and Tuesday were warm and muggy here at Fractal Central, but no rain fell and the dynamic fractal cats had two good days in the yard. Today is starting similarly. It again looks good for the duo. For me it looks like more work waiting to be done, but that's nothing new. Until next time, most likely in a day or two, take care, and if you find life too filled with worries, become a nihilist. Then you will have nothing to worry about. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START PARAMETER FILE======================================= ForEverAndEverMore { ; time=0:15:21.82--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=mandel passes=1 center-mag=-0.1234\ 0737875086490/+0.64952904883141020/1.548597e+009/1\ /-154.999960516307141/-7.38957991124056246e-005 params=0/0 float=y maxiter=420000 bailout=9 inside=0 logmap=11483 symmetry=none periodicity=10 colors=000cczcbycaxd`we_vfZugYthXsiYrjZqk`qlaqmcqn\ droerpgrqhrpisqirqhqqgpqfoqfnqemqdlqckqbjqbiqahq`g\ r_gr_frZerYdrXcrWbrWarV`rU_rTZrSYrSXsRXsQWsPVsPUsO\ TsNSsMRsLQsLPsKOsJNsIMsIMtJLtJLtKLtKLtKLuLLuLLuMLu\ MLuMLvNLvNLvOLvOLvOLvPLwPLwQLwQLwQLwRLxRLxSLxSLxSL\ xTLxTLyULyULyULyVLyVLzWLzWLzWLzXLzXLzXLyWKyVKxVKxU\ KxUKwTKwTJwSJvSJvRJvRJuQJuQJtPItPItOIsOIsNIsNIrMHr\ MHrLHqLHqKHpKHpJHpJGoIGoIGoHGnHGnGGn4InGGkSFiUDgWC\ eYBc_AaaA_cAYeAWgAUh9Si9Qj9Ok9Ml9Km9Im8Gl8Ek8Ej8Ej\ 8Ei8Eh7Eg7Ef7Ee7Ed7Ec7Fb6Ka6P`6U_6ZZ6_Y6hX5ZW5YW5X\ V5WU5ZT5SS4QR4OQ4MP4KO4IN4GM3GL3GK3GJ3GI3EK4GI3IG3\ KF3MD3OC3QA2S92U72W62Y42_32`53`64`75a86b97cA8dB9eC\ AfDBgFChGDiHDjIEkJFlKGmLHnMIoNJpPKqQLrRMsSNtTOuUOv\ VPwWQxXRyZSz_Tz`UzaVzbWzcXzeYzgZziZzkYzmXzoWzqXzs_\ zubzwezyhzzkzznzzqzztzzwzzyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz\ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz } END PARAMETER FILE=========================================

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please is anyone listening to me?
by David Lowenstein 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

why are people ignoring me? -david

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Re: Feigenbaum number
by JackOfTradeZ 06 Aug '04

06 Aug '04

Tony - yes. The ratio of circles is the first Feigenbaum constant, 4.66920 ... (infinite sequence). That number shows up in a lot of places ... you can set it as the Mandelbrot exponent to get a strange creature also: http://www.sonic.net/~jot/fg7.zip . Stay Amazed! JoTz JackOfTradeZ(a)comcast.net

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