I would like to think humanity could get it's shit together and not eat McDonald's, listen to Justin Timberlake, make Kangaroo Jack a #1 movie etc. etc. if people can't move beyond that type of bland thought process - how are we ever going to get our shit together enough to do something as huge as solving problems with Iraq and North Korea in a "peaceful" way? I think another real problem out there is what will happen here in America after the next "terror" attack. Watch civil liberties go bye-bye... Everytime something is plugging the news up as much as Iraq is right now - I wonder what it's diverting our attention away from...(remember when Clinton had us bombing Iraq asprin factories to divert attention from the Monica Lewinsky Blow Job?)... BTW - I am totally down with MorMovies comments. ----- Original Message ----- From: SUGAR in their vitamins? <yol@esophagus.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 09:36:23 -0800 (PST) To: <MorMovies@aol.com> Subject: Re: Politics of No Politics Re: gee, i don't recall anyone suggesting there is only one acceptable Re: stance on the idea of war. Re: Re: you're probably right, violence is a side of nature we cannot Re: suppress. yet i will always be hopeful humanity, with its unbelievably Re: greater capacity for intelligence and tool building, can use those Re: gifts to see around the problems life presents us in a more civil way. Re: feel free to disgaree, but i personally would like to live a few more Re: years on this still green planet and i'd like to do it in a fashion Re: which does not involve gas masks and mushroom clouds thank you. Re: Re: --dk Re: Re: Re: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 MorMovies@aol.com wrote: Re: Re: > Politics in some artist/music-oriented context is fine with me. So Re: > much art (bad art, IMO) is injected with politics. But I do resent Re: > the absolute bull$*&% brain-washed idea that there is ONE "good" Re: > acceptable stance on the idea of war?! Yeah, we can all hold hands Re: > and agree war SUCKS but doesn't evey living thing on this f'ing Re: > planet have to fight and kill at some point during the Re: > day/month/year, etc.?! I do not believe in the abstract, Re: > supernatural human-created concept of 'PEACE.' It does not exist in Re: > the natural world in our particular planet!! Point to it- SHOW IT Re: > TO ME!! It can apply to a mind-state or art and music but not Re: > reality, in my opinion. While we might momentarily enjoy "peace" Re: > some jerk is being dipped in acid or tortured or oppressed somewhere Re: > on the planet! Does that qualify as 'peace?' Then, I consider Re: > myself anti-peace! By the way, I consider myself as 'undecided' Re: > regarding the war with Iraq but I believe you HAVE to use hyper Re: > psychotic, threatening rhetoric to at least avoid conflict Re: > momentarily. Doesn't every animal have to snarl, roar or ruffle its Re: > feathers to deter agressors or predators? I refuse to believe the Re: > human species is genetically capable of being any different. On the Re: > other hand, I personally enjoy violent, insane art (specifically Re: > music and film) more than the sedate, 'peaceful' soothing kind. Re: > Sorry for the rant... Re: Re: Re: Ίç–+-™¨¥Šx%ŠËs¢¹åŠËfj)fj|fŠË"¢w(™:5%
H$HJ+ Re: §æ(º´®nÇ+Š›b¢s©¶*'² Re: -¢Ø^Áæéj›zZ0†Ûiûÿæj)fj|fŠË"¢w(›÷ ‰¸§þf¢–f§þX¬¶)ߣüè®yb² Re: Re: Yes. Beautiful, wonderful nature. Hear it sing to us: *snap* Yes. natURE. Re: Re: Re: _______________________________________________ Re: zorn-list mailing list Re: zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com Re: To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below Re: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list Re: -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife