It's recommended if you like to hear Hebrew songs sung with an American accent. But some of the arrangements are quite nice, especially the one of Erik Friedlander, Elysian Fields,Uri Caine/Ben Perowsky and Mark Feldman. Contrary to what is written in the liner notes, Sasha Argov did not write any of the lyrics to the songs. Eyal Hareuveni hareuveni@hotmail.com
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Hi!
... and what about "Sasha Argov: Great Jewish Music"? I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it at all. The lineup looks good, but perhaps a but unsurprising. Is it as varied as the earlier GJM discs?
Ho!
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Hi,
But some of the arrangements are quite nice, especially the one of Erik Friedlander, Elysian Fields,Uri Caine/Ben Perowsky and Mark Feldman.
I'd say that these artists Eyal mentioned are actually the only interesting in the whole album. The Bolan tribute wasn't that good for me and this one just left me cold and didn't make me want to know Argov's music at all, which seems to be one of the purposes of the GJM series. I've been lowering my expectations with Zorn lately, specially after this and Masada Guitars. All the best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Tim Sparks "Neshamah" (Tzadik) ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Móviles Personaliza tu móvil con tu logo y melodÃa favorito en http://moviles.yahoo.es
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Efrén del Valle wrote:
I've been lowering my expectations with Zorn lately, specially after this and Masada Guitars.
Having not heard the masada guitars, could you (and anyone else who feels like it) elaborate? i was thinking of picking it up, mostly for the frisell, but have no idea what to expect. thanks, whit
All the best,
Efrén del Valle n.p: Tim Sparks "Neshamah" (Tzadik)
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Having not heard the masada guitars, could you (and anyone else who feels like it) elaborate? i was thinking of picking it up, mostly for the frisell, but have no idea what to expect.
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Having not heard the masada guitars, could you (and anyone else who feels like it) elaborate? i was thinking of picking it up, mostly for the frisell, but have no idea what to expect.
I thoroughly enjoyed Masada guitars. It was exactly as I expected, with maybe the exception of the predominance of acoustic over electric. I expected solo guitar renditions of the tunes in the style of each guitarist. That's what it was--nothing more, nothing less. This is definitely the most organic Masada release I've heard--more in touch with the "new traditional" music Zorn said he was going for. The tunes are sparse, but new beauty emerges in the spare milieu. Frisell and Ribot touched me more than Sparks; I listened without looking and found that most of the tracks I enjoyed were not Sparks. Zach
Hi, Well, I don't know what I expected from the Masada Guitars project, but the results certainly didn't match my expectations. I felt Frisell was a surprising choice in some sense but this time I found his approach slightly more original than that of Ribot or Sparks. Some of his tracks are electric and although I generally dismiss his sometimes over-the-top use of pedal effects, it provides a new edge to the Masada compositions. Sparks is just himself: traditional and perfectionist with clean sound on the acoustic, nothing better or worse than the covers from his other three Tzadik albums (which I love, btw). And Ribot (my favorite guitarist by far) hasn't really succeeded this time. First of all, I'd had loved to hear him on electric on some tunes; secondly, his interpretations seem a bit dispersed. OK, I've seen him live and I've listened to his three solo albums a lot, so that should come as no surprise but somehow it doesn't seem to work this time. I've heard Masada Guitars four or five times only, and perhaps I'll learn to listen to it without the "high expectancies" factor in-between. I could change my mind but this reminds me of the feeling I had after listening to the so-awaited "The Gift". And maybe if the album had been divided into three different sections, one for each player, instead of alternating tracks, it would have resulted into something much more pleasurable and cohesioned. It's not difficult to discern who's playing on each track, but the overall "order" is a bit messy. Just an opinion. All the best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Teiji Ito "King Ubu" (Tzadik)
Having not heard the masada guitars, could you (and anyone else who feels like it) elaborate? i was thinking of picking it up, mostly for the frisell, but have no idea what to expect.
I thoroughly enjoyed Masada guitars. It was exactly as I expected, with maybe the exception of the predominance of acoustic over electric. I expected solo guitar renditions of the tunes in the style of each guitarist. That's what it was--nothing more, nothing less. This is definitely the most organic Masada release I've heard--more in touch with the "new traditional" music Zorn said he was going for. The tunes are sparse, but new beauty emerges in the spare milieu. Frisell and Ribot touched me more than Sparks; I listened without looking and found that most of the tracks I enjoyed were not Sparks. Zach ___________________________________________________ Yahoo! Móviles Personaliza tu móvil con tu logo y melodÃa favorito en http://moviles.yahoo.es
Hi, I really enjoy Masada Guitars, although, as mentionned previously, if you have high expectations on it, they'll most certainly won't be match. Of the three guys, Frisell is the one I find the most interesting here, with his electric playing of Katzatz being, for me and by far, the peak of the cd. On acoustic also, I find Frisell being the one bringing something new into the Masada songs. Sparks is also incredibly good, but as said before, nothing unexpected if you've heard his releases on Tzadik. Ribot is here the least interesting to me, his renditions are marvelously executed, but it sounds just like that, marvelously executed, and the second half of the cd, which got a lot of Ribot is a bit boring. Overall, I really like it, nothing really unexpected, a bit too long I think, but it gives some nice views on the Masada songs. Gregoire.
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