Alan Kayser: "Um, pardon me, but the Jews of Europe were (not "where") stripped of their human dignity and their religious beliefs by a dominant power, and then systematically exterminated by that power...not unlike the European "invasion" of the Americas." Or, say, their invasion of Japan. In every high school I've been too, there is a "Wall of Freedom," containing various hung facsimiles of documents such as the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and, strangely, the Instrument of Surrender (Merriam-Webster, surrender, 1 a : to yield to the power, control, or possession of another upon compulsion or demand). "I hope you are kidding. If you know they are Nazis then they have already made their politics known. Duh. Hey, if Osama puts out a really cool CD maybe you ought to buy that one, too." Okay, few more examples. I would never guess that Bruce Willis is a Republican from the movies he makes. I think he makes strong choices and performs well, and I still think so, even though I know he's a Republican. I'm not going to stop watching his movies, and I'm not going to boycott future releases. However, if he decided to star in a drama whose moral was poor people are lazy and need more welfare reform, or that gay people are destroying society, or an action flick whose point was the need for Star Wars, I wouldn't go see it. Feel free to replace any of the above plots with one's that you may know actually reflect Willis' Republican beliefs. If you start to limit your intake to only artists who are not racist/sexist/anti-gay/fascist/ableist, you are left with pretty slim pickings (but you can still listen to MY favorite band, Rage Against The Machine! Unless of course, your a Democrat). There's a anecdote from Hitler tells in Mein Kampf about going around the city, peering into the eyes of a German shopkeeper, and seeing a Jew. In fact, he says, the whole country was degenerating by turning into Jews. This is an interesting spin on the melting pot theory, decidedly more pernicious than the assimilationist American version, in which the Jews, or the Japanese, turn. So, if a Jewish or a Japanese person, where to say they went around their neighborhood or country, and everyone looked white, it's a different thing altogether from Hitler's paranoid obsessive delusions. "I feel ashamed that I have even taken my time, and the list, to reply to your statements." I doubt that Osama would put out a, "really cool CD." First, music had been banned in his country, second, there is a high probability it WOULD be political, and third, he would then be left with less subject matter than Christian pop groups. However, he's no neo-Nazi. For one thing, he organized the death of far more people, to my knowledge, than a single neo-Nazi ever did. Which points out that being a huge racist, and killing people, are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT things. Thanks, Mikhail _____________________________________________________________ May peace be the founding unity of all ideologies. May compassion reign in times of fear and anger. All peoples ought to prosper despite the power and greed of few. This can only be accomplished if we all work together and if everyone counts. _____________________________________________________________ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with email@yourgroup.org by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag
Okay, few more examples. I would never guess that Bruce Willis is a Republican from the movies he makes. I think he makes strong choices and performs well, and I still think so, even though I know he's a Republican.
Yeah, point understood. But I get a nasty taste in my mouth when the rare situation occurs where the imprisoned Charles Manson ends up being a millionaire right there in his cell, just because some poser rock group (Guns & Roses) covers one of his songs on a million seller album. Even if you're into cult killers (how engaged!), home taping and video trading would be the way to avoid awkward situations like these. Talking politics in culture will continue to evolve in a fairly academic discussion, as long as you keep the 'culture industry' out of it. However small royalties are, people do get rich from them (sometimes). Though only a few of us Zornlisters will own the cd-single by the pope. This was by no means a hit, but sales must have exceeded those of the whole Tzadik catalogue. Same will apply for Osama when releasing a 'song'. The market is so big here, were not talking avant garde s(c)ales. But then again, buying Charles Manson songs out of curiosity, or checking the music by the pope or Osama, would not be the same as buying guns in order to party around on some children's playground around the corner. Regards, Remco
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