before RHCP got big (pre BSSM), they played my college (George Mason Univ) my freshman year (in 89) and this turns out to be the gig where one (or more?) of them were charged for sexual battery. if i recall it was a simple matter of one of them dropping their pants backstage but you can imagine all the people who claimed "they were there" and saw the lead singer whipping it out in front of the whole crowd, a la Jim morrison. -----Original Message----- From: SELC - Andrew Mortensen [mailto:andrewm@mail.selc.com.au] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:42 PM To: Zorn-List (E-mail) Subject: RE: RHCP on another list I'm on, there was a tonne of RHCP bashing, it's actually funny. my fav thing of them is "BSSM" as I love the way this albums sounds, not to mention the songs. the drums, with that huge room sound (didn't they record at a mansion at Malibu?). and what I really admire about Fruscante, is (I'm not a guitarist, but this is what I've heard) doesn't he just go direct into the desk, no amp, just fx or maybe some sort of pre-amp..???? it's a great sound on that album! flea is 'yeah' but like many bass players, I'd rather listen to the 'real' funk players, Bootsy, Larry Graham, George Porter Jr (the Meters) - but still he's great & inspired many youngins to pick up the bass. I liked some song on "One Hot Minute" but that was mainly due to Navaro's influence, nice stuff - (I once saw on cable a Jane's Addition show, & the band was RHCP just with Perry). Andrew n.p: Deicide - Scars of The Crucifix -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-bounces+andrewm=mail.selc.com.au@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-bounces+andrewm=mail.selc.com.au@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of skip heller Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2004 8:11 PM To: Efrén del Valle; Peter Gannushkin; SELC - Andrew Mortensen Subject: Re: James Blood Ulmer Actually, Ribot's maiden voyage didn;t function well at the time of its release. Nobody liked it all that much. I worked in a record store when it came out, and the people who were excited that it came out were soon enough the people who were not thrilled to have sat thru it. Ribot's reputation was really made off those three Waits albums, and SPIKE. Little wonder such a huge reputation was made. The live version of "16 Shells" fr BIG TIME still delivers. As for the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, they definitely came up with a sound that was theirs. I have to respect that, even if I'm not a fan. Few people ever do that. My personal "white intellectual funk out" record was the second Ambitious Lovers album. Still sounds good to me, too. It's really slick, but that works in the context of the record. I never got the sense that Ribot owed that much to Quine, whose playing I also know quite well (or rather I did up to about that time -- I can only listen to so much Lou Reed). sh

Although the Rootless Cosmopolitans stuff sounds quite outdated now, I think it was a good album for the time. While many bands in the early 90's were trying to figure out how to blend funk and rock in the trendiest way and the results were... well, the Peppers. Ribot managed to incorporate those and pop, free-jazz, noise, etc in a coherent way. I know many who could do without "The Wind Cries Mary" though. It sounds a bit better in the Shrek live album. It's a pity that Robert Quine is so underrecorded, specially considering how much Ribot owes him.

Best,

Efrén del Valle

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