Hello Craig, Saturday, November 30, 2002, you wrote: CR> The sense I'm getting from some people here is that they don't consider it CR> stealing because you would never have made that sale in the first place - CR> they wouldn't have shelled out the money anyway, so you can't lose what you CR> would never have gotten in the first place. I happen to think this CR> argument is crap. CR> The other prevailing argument seems to be that copying music and giving it CR> to others helps the bands by spreading the word to an audience that CR> otherwise wouldn't have been exposed to it. Again, crap. It is actually hard to argue if all you think about opponents' opinions is that they are crap, but I would try to explain what I'm saying once again anyway. I don't think it is not theft because I was not going to buy the thing in the first place. It is not the theft because I didn't steal it. I made a copy. If I would make a copy of a car for my personal use nobody will say a word. If I would whistle you a new song I heard on the radio nobody will say a word. Even if I would let you my book or CD nobody will say a word. After all, there is such term as "fare use" which, as far as I know, give me even an official right to make a copy of the thing I have. And again, I'm not even talking now if it is legal or illegal, right or wrong, good or bad. It is just not a theft by the definition. NP: DJ Logic "The Anomaly" (CD) -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: shkin@shkin.com URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/