Firstly, the new Tomahawk record is a far sight better than the first, which smacked of "rock supergroup" to me. Not to say that there weren't any good songs, because there were, but the new album sounds more cohesive and "bandlike". My feeling on this was confirmed by my seeing them live a few weeks ago. So what if a band writes normal rock songs? I can guarantee you, the people on this list are not as attuned to the charts as they think they are. Have any of you people listened to what's passing for "rock" these days? My God, Tomahawk comes off like King Crimson when they were good in this environment. Not everything ever written has to "push boundaries" or "break rules". Does the motherfucker rock? That's the question that should be asked, and Tomahawk's new Cd fits the definition to me. And while were on the subject, let's give Duane Denison his due. He is a superb guitar player, with an instantly recognizable style. I don't think he's ever gotten enough credit as a player. Hell, yes, I loved the Jesus Lizard, and Scratch Acid before that! Regarding the comments made by what's his name about Zappa. Yes, the guy had some utterly stupid song titles, but his music and antics made life a lot more fun while he was around. He was the first musician I idolized. I don't listen to his stuff much anymore, but his influence and attitude are sorely missed around these parts these days. Craig L. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus