Dear Jeb, First of all, I want to say thank you for the music you are playing. The trio CD you put on Okka Disk is one of my favorite albums. Second, please, excuse me my bad English. As of the ridiculous statement you were trying to clear up, I would say that bringing this topic back to discussion is probably not the best thing to do. People might not remember who was right and who was wrong, but now they most certainly will remember that there was some issue about drinking too much during the gig. I had experience like that (not drinking too much, but being accused doing something that I didn't) and I can say that in the media such as internet the best thing to do is to ignore the jerks who come up with the crappy statements like that. Otherwise it is just letting search engines (e.g. general public) to connect your name with the name of a bastard and to make the topic much more known than it was before. Sorry, if it sounded like I was trying to teach you or something, but having experience producing big web projects, I know how these things work. PS If you would like to have some more borscht, please come to the next New York Vision Festival. As a person responsible for the kitchen there, I can promise that you'll have some. And I will be really happy to see you amongst the participants of the festival either with you own projects or as a member of V5. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Saturday, November 29, 2003, you wrote to me: JB> It came to my attention that Zach Steiner posted the following recently: JB> <<Vandermark's albums (particularly V5) tend to be a bit insipid, especially JB> in contrast to their live shows. Jeb Bishop just shines throughout, despite JB> having almost two 6 packs the night I saw them. [...] >> JB> While it is nice that Mr. Steiner enjoys my playing, the statement about my JB> alcohol consumption is completely untrue. I never have more than one drink JB> before the end of a gig -- generally I sip on one through two sets. JB> If "the night I saw them" was the Indianapolis gig, I had had several bowls JB> of excellent homemade borscht, but nothing like that amount of alcohol. If JB> I'd had that much to drink, I'd have been unable to put the trombone JB> together, let alone play anything on it. JB> Frankly, Mr. Steiner, the fact that you can so blithely make a completely JB> false statement like this annoys the shit out of me. The 'almost' qualifier JB> makes it sound as though you were following me around counting the number of JB> beers I'd had -- it would have to be ten or eleven to qualify as "almost two JB> six-packs," wouldn't it. JB> You could not possibly have witnessed this, because I didn't drink ten or JB> eleven beers, or even two. But you nonetheless feel justified in publishing JB> this misinformation as if it was something you had first-hand knowledge of. JB> People reading it will then gain the belief that I did this gig totally JB> shit-faced, which is something I would never do. JB> This was the last gig on a long tour and I was undoubtedly fatigued -- maybe JB> that's what you think was drunkenness. But if you don't know what you're JB> talking about -- as you clearly don't here -- then you should keep your JB> fucking mouth shut, rather than accusing me of being drunk on the job. JB> I have no interest in hearing an apology from you, by the way. Just trying JB> to set the record straight. JB> --Jeb Bishop JB> jebbishop3@earthlink.net JB> _______________________________________________ JB> zorn-list mailing list JB> zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com JB> To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below JB> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list