I think this is ambitiously creative. Creating something that didnt occur to respond to, with imagination and gusto. Some call it responding, which funnels in a networking process through the creator, bouncing against, fracturing and molding to ones own experience, imagination, fear, desire, knowledge of the initial subject of the response. The subject was only a collection of responses in the first place. But I think our fellow here is actually reacting to a completely contrived interpretation of the original thread. ....or did I come in too late for this conversation? it occurs to me that that may be true....To delete it now would be treachery to the creative process.. CL passionately makes a valid point. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Lieske" <garbageisland@hotmail.com> To: <zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: "Creative music"
Hey guys, give this Pomegranate a chance. Nels Cline is on it, and I guarantee you the guitar parts are "creative". I haven't heard this thing, but if it's close to anything I heard Nels play last month at Tonic with Scott Amendola's quartet, then it has to great. During one section Nels ripped off the most amazing and, yes, that weak word again, "creative" solos I've ever heard anybody play in my life. I have played guitar for 20 years, and I've never heard anything like that before. The thing that bothers me about all this "criticism" on this list is that you people take such an adversarial stance against someone trying to do something musically. Sure, the language in the press release was a little blown out of proportion, but has anyone read an OBI strip on a Tzadik CD lately? I've been involved in experimental music one way or another for a long time and it is my firm belief that if someone is trying to stretch boundaries, however naively or poorly they try, these people deserve support, not scorn. Don't knock someone down for trying something new or different. It's funny how , in the rock world, bands like Sabbath and Led Zeppelin were universally scorned by critics in the 70's. Now these assholes arelining up to retro-sing praises to these guys. Save the hard line for the poor fuckers who deserve it. You like it or it doesn't move you. Save the fucking condescention for your next tea party! CL
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